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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 15:51
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 15:51
Feb 19, 2018, 15:51
 
Quboid wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 15:21:
Mr. Tact wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 09:30:
Beamer wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 06:46:
This thread is great:

1) DangerDog says "Trump never claimed it was the largest inauguration. The media made the battle!"

2) It's proven Trump made the size comment

3) DangerDog says "Well, it's about when the photo was taken, so Trump was right!"


It shows That DangerDog doesn't bother looking into anything before getting all angry at someone else over it, meaning he blames the media instead of Trump, and it means he'll do anything to defend Trump.

Basically, why are we talking to him when it's been proven here he's ignorant, unwilling to use Google before committing to an opinion, and unwilling to change his poorly informed opinion after someone shows him actual video disputing his memory? This isn't even about opinions, which people here argue often. He's arguing fact in the face of video evidence. If someone can't even agree on widely-proven fact, why engage?
Sadly, DangerDog is not unique. In fact, he represents significant portion of the population. It is the very definition of how/why Trump was elected.

Yes, that's why I'm curious. I'm not going to change his mind or even get honest answers, but how he avoids reality is interesting. His political beliefs are a house of cards, he daren't risk disturbing a single one in case the whole lot falls down.

I got what you were going for. My "don't bother engaging" was rhetorical. I understand why those here that do, and do so without malice, do. I just want him to see how he has hard and fast opinions on things he hasn't looked into and is clearly very misinformed about. He won't acknowledge, and like with everything else, he'll pretend it isn't true because it's uncomfortable for him, but he'll actually see it and decide against it.
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 15:21
Quboid
 
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 15:21
Feb 19, 2018, 15:21
 Quboid
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 09:30:
Beamer wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 06:46:
This thread is great:

1) DangerDog says "Trump never claimed it was the largest inauguration. The media made the battle!"

2) It's proven Trump made the size comment

3) DangerDog says "Well, it's about when the photo was taken, so Trump was right!"


It shows That DangerDog doesn't bother looking into anything before getting all angry at someone else over it, meaning he blames the media instead of Trump, and it means he'll do anything to defend Trump.

Basically, why are we talking to him when it's been proven here he's ignorant, unwilling to use Google before committing to an opinion, and unwilling to change his poorly informed opinion after someone shows him actual video disputing his memory? This isn't even about opinions, which people here argue often. He's arguing fact in the face of video evidence. If someone can't even agree on widely-proven fact, why engage?
Sadly, DangerDog is not unique. In fact, he represents significant portion of the population. It is the very definition of how/why Trump was elected.

Yes, that's why I'm curious. I'm not going to change his mind or even get honest answers, but how he avoids reality is interesting. His political beliefs are a house of cards, he daren't risk disturbing a single one in case the whole lot falls down.
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 12:16
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 12:16
Feb 19, 2018, 12:16
 
Red886 wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 05:04:
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 20:42:
Fake news sharing in US is a rightwing thing
The tRump group of supporters consumed the highest volume of junk news and spread more junk news sources, than all the other groups put together. This pattern is repeated on Facebook Bluesnews, where the Hard Conservatives group spread the highest proportion of junk news.

most of the mainstream media is fake news. that of course also includes gov media like the BBC.

and the audacity to call news that Trump's supporters read as junk news, when British media and mainstream american media is full of crap as well? what a joke. Some arbiter of truths these anti-Trump publications are

"I reject reality and substitute my own."
If Russia stops fighting, the war ends. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine ends. Slava Ukraini!
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 09:30
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 09:30
Feb 19, 2018, 09:30
 
Beamer wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 06:46:
This thread is great:

1) DangerDog says "Trump never claimed it was the largest inauguration. The media made the battle!"

2) It's proven Trump made the size comment

3) DangerDog says "Well, it's about when the photo was taken, so Trump was right!"


It shows That DangerDog doesn't bother looking into anything before getting all angry at someone else over it, meaning he blames the media instead of Trump, and it means he'll do anything to defend Trump.

Basically, why are we talking to him when it's been proven here he's ignorant, unwilling to use Google before committing to an opinion, and unwilling to change his poorly informed opinion after someone shows him actual video disputing his memory? This isn't even about opinions, which people here argue often. He's arguing fact in the face of video evidence. If someone can't even agree on widely-proven fact, why engage?
Sadly, DangerDog is not unique. In fact, he represents significant portion of the population. It is the very definition of how/why Trump was elected.
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 09:14
PHJF
 
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 09:14
Feb 19, 2018, 09:14
 PHJF
 
Basically, why are we talking to him when it's been proven here he's ignorant, unwilling to use Google before committing to an opinion, and unwilling to change his poorly informed opinion after someone shows him actual video disputing his memory? This isn't even about opinions, which people here argue often. He's arguing fact in the face of video evidence. If someone can't even agree on widely-proven fact, why engage?

Hey if Drumpf can do it, so can this guy. CHANGING opinions?! What are you, a flip flopper???
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 06:46
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 06:46
Feb 19, 2018, 06:46
 
This thread is great:

1) DangerDog says "Trump never claimed it was the largest inauguration. The media made the battle!"

2) It's proven Trump made the size comment

3) DangerDog says "Well, it's about when the photo was taken, so Trump was right!"


It shows That DangerDog doesn't bother looking into anything before getting all angry at someone else over it, meaning he blames the media instead of Trump, and it means he'll do anything to defend Trump.

Basically, why are we talking to him when it's been proven here he's ignorant, unwilling to use Google before committing to an opinion, and unwilling to change his poorly informed opinion after someone shows him actual video disputing his memory? This isn't even about opinions, which people here argue often. He's arguing fact in the face of video evidence. If someone can't even agree on widely-proven fact, why engage?
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 05:07
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 05:07
Feb 19, 2018, 05:07
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 13:32:
The orange twitter troll also has such a good understanding of the FBI he thinks they failed on doing anything about the Florida school shooter because they were chasing the fake Russian leads, which have now been proven to be true.
But no collusion.
"If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth." Paul Joseph Goebbels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpjLhM1BRW8

Obama and his supporters did plenty of that. Not like any mainstream media would diss on the first Black president. ( race is very important in this context. Just look at something as minor as Black Panther. Hilary = Ghostbusters)

just imagine the reaction if similar racial and physical slurs were used against Obama and Hilary
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 05:04
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 05:04
Feb 19, 2018, 05:04
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 20:42:
Fake news sharing in US is a rightwing thing
The tRump group of supporters consumed the highest volume of junk news and spread more junk news sources, than all the other groups put together. This pattern is repeated on Facebook Bluesnews, where the Hard Conservatives group spread the highest proportion of junk news.

most of the mainstream media is fake news. that of course also includes gov media like the BBC.

and the audacity to call news that Trump's supporters read as junk news, when British media and mainstream american media is full of crap as well? what a joke. Some arbiter of truths these anti-Trump publications are
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 04:57
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 04:57
Feb 19, 2018, 04:57
 
all anti-Trump articles on Russian meddling are missing the specifics

BECAUSE when they start publishing the actual numbers , and advertisements, tweets and ads, it becomes one huge joke , and the witchhunt cum blame game becomes all too clear
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 03:46
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 03:46
Feb 19, 2018, 03:46
 
Flatline wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 02:34:
DangerDog wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 02:22:
Well, I would say you're guilty of falling for the fake news story about it being a "low turn out" crowd. I don't recall the "largest crowd ever" statement by Trump. It seems the media were the ones who wanted to nit-pick over crowd sizes. obsessing over it much like you are now.

Dude it took me like... 5 minutes to find the ABC interview where Trump said out of his own mouth "We had the biggest audience in the history of inaugural speeches."

Which even if you include online and TV? Not so much.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/824501387861987329/video/1

And as for your "highly journalistic" source of "zero hedge" who spends multiple pages talking about forced perspective, I can show you a timelapse of the entire day from PBS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdantUf5tXg

I mean, even Spicer admits that he regrets that whopper.

it's not about "forced perspective" it's about when the picture was taken.

The long shot that the media used was taken at like 8:30 am, and you can see most of the mall area is empty. Look at the CNN gigapixel photo, obviously taken when Trump was giving his speech and those same areas are filled in with people.

I admit I didn't realize "#inauguration gate" had taken on such importance, or insanity by the left.

The only thing that really matters is Trumps inauguration crowd was massively bigger than Hillary's.

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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 02:34
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 02:34
Feb 19, 2018, 02:34
 
DangerDog wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 02:22:
Well, I would say you're guilty of falling for the fake news story about it being a "low turn out" crowd. I don't recall the "largest crowd ever" statement by Trump. It seems the media were the ones who wanted to nit-pick over crowd sizes. obsessing over it much like you are now.

Dude it took me like... 5 minutes to find the ABC interview where Trump said out of his own mouth "We had the biggest audience in the history of inaugural speeches."

Which even if you include online and TV? Not so much.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/824501387861987329/video/1

And as for your "highly journalistic" source of "zero hedge" who spends multiple pages talking about forced perspective, I can show you a timelapse of the entire day from PBS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdantUf5tXg

I mean, even Spicer admits that he regrets that whopper.
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 02:22
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 02:22
Feb 19, 2018, 02:22
 
Quboid wrote on Feb 19, 2018, 00:49:
That's why this is so weird - this was no "gotcha", Trump brought this entirely on himself. It was completely pointless of Trump to make that claim. He drew attention to the attendance (Spicer pretended it was about people watching after the fact) and then rather than point to the mitigating reasons, he made an incorrect statement about the attendance that make those reasons irrelevant. DC didn't like him? His statement was still obviously wrong. The weather was bad? His statement was still obviously wrong.

And yet, you fell for it. That was also completely pointless. You parroted an obviously incorrect statement and in your paranoia, you blamed the people who pointed out that the President made an obviously incorrect statement - as if that's not something the media should pick up on. I can't imagine you deliberately tried to mislead anyone else because it was so weak but then what was the point? As I said before, it looks like deep down, you know you've fallen for the most obvious con in history and rather than accept that and learn from it, you cling on to anything to maintain the illusion.

Claiming to not care about the media after inadvertently admitting you were wrong fits that too.

Well, I would say you're guilty of falling for the fake news story about it being a "low turn out" crowd. I don't recall the "largest crowd ever" statement by Trump. It seems the media were the ones who wanted to nit-pick over crowd sizes. obsessing over it much like you are now.

Ah ha! he lied! got him now boys, let's impeach him. That's been the battle cry from the left from day 0.

More Fake News: Media Contrived Photos to Diminish Trump’s Inauguration Crowd

I think this sums up my thoughts on "#inauguration gate"

You're all wasting your time on your Trump hate.

Maybe Jimmy Dore can help you regain focus...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piacn4-ieLo




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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 01:23
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 01:23
Feb 19, 2018, 01:23
 
If you trust popular media opinion you're IQ.

No other option.
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 00:49
Quboid
 
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 00:49
Feb 19, 2018, 00:49
 Quboid
 
That's why this is so weird - this was no "gotcha", Trump brought this entirely on himself. It was completely pointless of Trump to make that claim. He drew attention to the attendance (Spicer pretended it was about people watching after the fact) and then rather than point to the mitigating reasons, he made an incorrect statement about the attendance that make those reasons irrelevant. DC didn't like him? His statement was still obviously wrong. The weather was bad? His statement was still obviously wrong.

And yet, you fell for it. That was also completely pointless. You parroted an obviously incorrect statement and in your paranoia, you blamed the people who pointed out that the President made an obviously incorrect statement - as if that's not something the media should pick up on. I can't imagine you deliberately tried to mislead anyone else because it was so weak but then what was the point? As I said before, it looks like deep down, you know you've fallen for the most obvious con in history and rather than accept that and learn from it, you cling on to anything to maintain the illusion.

Claiming to not care about the media after inadvertently admitting you were wrong fits that too.
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 19, 2018, 00:08
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 19, 2018, 00:08
Feb 19, 2018, 00:08
 
Quboid wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 23:21:
DangerDog wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 20:33:
Quboid wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 17:45:
I don't care about the numbers, or the inauguration at all. I'm intrigued by what leads someone to believe a politician - any politician - over clear, objective reality.

That makes two of us, as for the media lol I don't give two shits about what the "media" has to say regarding Trump, or really anything.

If you didn't care, you wouldn't have complained about it in the first place. So you agree that it wasn't well attended? That looks like an excuse for poor attendance, so do you agree that the media was right to call out Trump's false claim?

you seem obsessed with this.

The way I remember it was the "media" was all about showing low attendance of the inauguration, that half empty picture of the national mall was used as proof. Then it was disputed when that picture was taken, many assumed it was earlier when the people were just entering the mall. Other pictures (like the gigapicture) shows more people, with some empty space but not as much.

I don't recall this being anything more than a lame attempt at trying to play "gotcha" by the lame stream media. There was some back and forth on twitter which ended with Trump hanging a picture of the "yuge" inauguration crowd in the white house.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-inauguration-photo-press-234113

I thought the tit-for-tat thing with Obama was who had more people watching, something that can't really be quantified because internet streams etc.

I also remember when Obama won the election in 08, so many people filled with hope of real change, lots of tears of joy, dancing in the street.

Obama gonna pay for my gas, he gonna pay for my mortgage.

Ain’t we lucky we got ’em

Good Times.

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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 18, 2018, 23:21
Quboid
 
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 18, 2018, 23:21
Feb 18, 2018, 23:21
 Quboid
 
DangerDog wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 20:33:
Quboid wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 17:45:
I don't care about the numbers, or the inauguration at all. I'm intrigued by what leads someone to believe a politician - any politician - over clear, objective reality.

That makes two of us, as for the media lol I don't give two shits about what the "media" has to say regarding Trump, or really anything.

If you didn't care, you wouldn't have complained about it in the first place. So you agree that it wasn't well attended? That looks like an excuse for poor attendance, so do you agree that Trump was incorrect in claiming more people attended his inauguration than Obama's?
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 18, 2018, 21:43
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Feb 18, 2018, 21:43
 
This is a great example of, if you say it for long enough, people believe it

New. Cold. War. False narrative. Learn from History.
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 18, 2018, 21:10
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 18, 2018, 21:10
Feb 18, 2018, 21:10
 

They will invent a new TURD Emoji for his legacy, that he's so concerned about.
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 18, 2018, 20:49
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 18, 2018, 20:49
Feb 18, 2018, 20:49
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 20:42:
Fake news sharing in US is a rightwing thing
The tRump group of supporters consumed the highest volume of junk news and spread more junk news sources, than all the other groups put together. This pattern is repeated on Facebook Bluesnews, where the Hard Conservatives group spread the highest proportion of junk news.

damn, I feel like I missed out by not having a Twitter and Facebook account.

I need to turn off ad blockers too.

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Re: Sunday Safety Dance
Feb 18, 2018, 20:42
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Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 18, 2018, 20:42
Feb 18, 2018, 20:42
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 19:37:
DangerDog wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 15:59:
HorrorScope wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 15:46:
DangerDog wrote on Feb 18, 2018, 15:30:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pressure-on-fbi-mounts-after-failure-to-pursue-tip-on-florida-suspect/

FBI's new slogan. If you see something, say something so we can do nothing.

The other slogan could have been... "See something, say something and we'll detain people without cause or due process, trust us."

The family he was living with say they had no idea he was so unstable, maybe things could have turned out differently if they were at least made aware of the situation.
The mother was a nurse, and the father former military intelligence analyst. That's a pretty good combination to detect his behavior, but they had no clue.

You're right they could be covering it up, we may never know for sure.
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