NamecaF wrote on Feb 15, 2018, 00:56:

Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 19:24:

Bard wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 19:00:

jdreyer wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 13:53:
They had better come up with a business model quick. A free press is vital in preventing abuse of power and corruption.

It used to be.

Now we have access to uncorrupted independent media organisations who are completely online. Like the Intercept.

The traditional press was made a target following Vietnam, and since then has become totally compromised.

The Intercept has become pretty one-sided lately and even ignores some big events completely. Consortiumnews is much better. However Robert Parry died recently (and of course the "traditional" media was completely silent about it) and we will have to see if it will stay on its path of real journalism.

All press is one-sided. They're all blatantly biased now, mostly to the left, but a few are right. There's no unbiased or centrist media what-so-ever.

You should read Consortiumnews before saying something like that.

But yeah, because of the left bias in the MSM, I found myself actually checking FoxNews more and more just to see what the other side says. They arent nearly as bad as (also left) people say. CNN is much worse nowadays. But real journalism is extinct in the MSM. Most have become petty demagogues.

But the more popular alternative media isnt that much better. Democracy Now, TYT, Infowars, Rebel Media, etc, they all just follow their own agenda and rarely have real journalism.
Dark times ahead, because without proper journalism, democracy and freedom of speech is not able to survive.

AMP for email is a terrible idea.

Yes, it is. I would have actually added a few more terribles there myself. However, it is probably going to become a thing anyway with Google on board.

Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 19:24:

Bard wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 19:00:

jdreyer wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 13:53:
They had better come up with a business model quick. A free press is vital in preventing abuse of power and corruption.

It used to be.

Now we have access to uncorrupted independent media organisations who are completely online. Like the Intercept.

The traditional press was made a target following Vietnam, and since then has become totally compromised.

The Intercept has become pretty one-sided lately and even ignores some big events completely. Consortiumnews is much better. However Robert Parry died recently (and of course the "traditional" media was completely silent about it) and we will have to see if it will stay on its path of real journalism.

All press is one-sided. They're all blatantly biased now, mostly to the left, but a few are right. There's no unbiased or centrist media what-so-ever.

RedEye9 wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 16:06:

jdreyer wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 13:53:
They had better come up with a business model quick. A free press is vital in preventing abuse of power and corruption.

What are you, a commie?

My blood runs pink.

Bard wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 19:00:

jdreyer wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 13:53:
They had better come up with a business model quick. A free press is vital in preventing abuse of power and corruption.

It used to be.

Now we have access to uncorrupted independent media organisations who are completely online. Like the Intercept.

The traditional press was made a target following Vietnam, and since then has become totally compromised.

Of course they'll have to move to online completely. The question is, how do you fund that and remain independent? The Intercept is a bad example, because it's funded by billionaire Pierre Omidyar so it doesn't have to worry as much about revenue streams.

Bard wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 19:00:

jdreyer wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 13:53:
They had better come up with a business model quick. A free press is vital in preventing abuse of power and corruption.

It used to be.

Now we have access to uncorrupted independent media organisations who are completely online. Like the Intercept.

The traditional press was made a target following Vietnam, and since then has become totally compromised.

The Intercept has become pretty one-sided lately and even ignores some big events completely. Consortiumnews is much better. However Robert Parry died recently (and of course the "traditional" media was completely silent about it) and we will have to see if it will stay on its path of real journalism.

jdreyer wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 13:53:
They had better come up with a business model quick. A free press is vital in preventing abuse of power and corruption.

It used to be.

Now we have access to uncorrupted independent media organisations who are completely online. Like the Intercept.

The traditional press was made a target following Vietnam, and since then has become totally compromised.

jdreyer wrote on Feb 14, 2018, 13:53:
They had better come up with a business model quick. A free press is vital in preventing abuse of power and corruption.

What are you, a commie?

They had better come up with a business model quick. A free press is vital in preventing abuse of power and corruption.