panbient wrote on Feb 1, 2018, 06:13:
jdreyer wrote on Feb 1, 2018, 02:30:
You need to read up son, cuz all the shit he did, he did that shit at work. And he put it in his biography.
So with that logic in place why do I need to keep seeing Nikki Sixx's stupid face on tv commercials for another music variety show? And some of the stuff he and Tommy Lee claim they did to groupies in The Dirt is far beyond anything I've read about Bushnell.
Except that those groupies went there to be fucked. Everything consensual among all parties. One of my best friends was a groupie, and that's exactly why she went to shows: to get backstage and fuck a rock star. Of course she usually also had to fuck the roadie so he'd let her back stage, but that's a different story... (One of her friends got knocked up after a Bowie show, and aborted. She didn't know if it was Bowie's baby, or the roadie's)
Bushnell pressured employees to get naked at work and get into a hot tub with him (among other things). While not the worse thing in the world relative to Harvey Weinstein, Brett Ratner, etc. it's still bad, and made working at Atari an uncomfortable place to work especially for women.
Bushnell's reaction is a good one. But that does not mean this specific outrage is not veering towards vilifying individuals today for norms of yesterday's society. And the current double standard I'm seeing (again where are the protests against rock stars?...) isn't really helping things.
Harassment and intimidation is a very real issue in software development. Reminding employees how easily they can be replaced by the next crop of college graduates is both incredibly demoralizing and a nasty way of justifying not paying them their actual worth - and that's rather benign compared to the aggression most women are subjected to. I just don't see how this specific GDC decision is going to accomplish anything outside the gamer echo chamber.
Maybe, I don't know, instead of punishing someone from the past who hasn't otherwise been charged with any sort of aggression (besides living in tasteless times) maybe honour a current employer who's actually doing it right? Are there any companies (with more than just 3-4 employees) who've actually managed it?
I hear that EA is one of the most diverse and harassment free places to work. They've won awards in the past for that. As much as we hate them for their game design, sounds like they're doing it right.
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