Asmodai wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 18:55:
Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 12:06:
Timmeh wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:20:
Also..
America is not built on "diversity" that is a modern bunch of garbage leftists created to undermine the country like morons.
America is built on individuality and the freedom to be who and what you want to be based on your drive and tenacity. The diversity these leftist POS's throw around doesn't even mean close to the same thing.
another thing...
We should be working to import the best and the brightest even from a shithole country. not the lowest common denominator in order to line the voting tallies of the socialist democraps.
I repeatedly get the impression you're not exactly the most successful poster here.
Lol, if that's the bar for being right, it's pretty fucking low...
So the option is kowtow to the accepted opinion or freely express your own opinions despite the fact that it might make you unpopular with those that believe they have the moral high ground? For anyone with integrity, there is no choice.
What's braver, following the company line or speaking out? Pro tip Beamer, insulting people for their beliefs and opinions didn't work at the last election and isn't likely to work at the next... If the regressive left (and yeah, imo you qualify) isn't willing to live it's principles of diversity ie. accept diversity of thought, they will continue to alienate the centrists that, by virtue(signal) of people getting further to the left, actually look right wing... Swing voters who might actually toss out the Trump are being shooed away because they aren't as extreme as you want them to be.
Trump is completely unsuited to being the POTUS, but he's not wrong. These countries are shitholes, and the only people adding a racial element are the left. Would you want to live there? If the worst place in the US is better than the country of origin, it's a shithole... And imo it's refreshing to hear a politician actually express an opinion rather than indulge in political weasel words.
I do, however, notice that few people hesitate when pointing the finger and screaming bigot, racist, homophobe, misogynist, nazi... Yeah, you could make the point that the POTUS should be above that, but that hasn't really worked to date. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?
ps. Funny how few ever consider that the best and brightest who flee their home countries are likely the ones actually needed to pull those countries out of the holes they are in. Immigration gives people a chance of a better life, but it also skims the cream of the crop. The old 'cruel to be kind' adage applies here, these are the people that could usher in a new age for their nations. If they had assistance dismantling dictatorships and corrupt governments, they might actually manage to pull their country in to the 21st century.
These are wild tangents.
No one said that Haiti is a fantastically governed country. But this is the President. The leader of the free world. He needs to have tact. Some of his own citizens are from these countries, and he's sending what message to them?
You're also ignoring a very clear pattern of saying such things about non-white countries from our President.
And lastly, with Timmeh, I was taking offense to him saying that you can be what you want in America based on drive and tenacity. If this is true, does Timmeh lack the drive to be successful, or the tenacity?
Or is it all far, far more complicated than people like him try to make it out to be?