Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 21:34:

Darks wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 20:54:
@ Beamer

Im not wasting anymore time with you, people like you will never listen, in your mind no matter what anyone says you are always right. You want an example, go find a dictionary.

Can't even name one thing. I mean, how can you be right when you can't name a single thing supporting your claim?

Where in a dictionary would I see middle easterners fucking up the US? Sounds more like an encyclopedia thing, but even then, I can't imagine anything they're doing that we're not already doing in greater numbers.

Its very apparent you dont pay attention to whats going on in Europe. Again, Delusional!!!

jdreyer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 18:07:

Chromius wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 16:17:
The sad thing is is how many of you believe CNN and a source of a source of a source as real news.

The brainwashing is significant in this thread.

I've posted this here before. Fox is untrue about 60% of the time compared to 20% for CNN.. Cable news sucks in general, but CNN is not that bad as these things go.

You might want to watch a documentary by Dan Rather about the Left taking over the media. If you do ANY research you will find the globalist's have taken over 90 percent of all the read and written media. Nope not conspiracy theory, its fact.

Globalism and open borders and global warming are all about profit and control.

Darks wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 20:54:
@ Beamer

Im not wasting anymore time with you, people like you will never listen, in your mind no matter what anyone says you are always right. You want an example, go find a dictionary.

Can't even name one thing. I mean, how can you be right when you can't name a single thing supporting your claim?

Where in a dictionary would I see middle easterners fucking up the US? Sounds more like an encyclopedia thing, but even then, I can't imagine anything they're doing that we're not already doing in greater numbers.

RedEye9 wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 21:01:
No time was wasted, you were never part of the conversation.

Bwuahaha. Guys click my URL!!! Ohh oh you totally said what I was going to say!! High five me! Someone high five me! DOTUS DURMPH! I'm part of the cool kid group now! Please remember to click like and subscribe!

At least he has opinions and thoughts, more than I can say for you.

Schornstein wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 21:03:
Reading these comments as a German all I have to say: poor America, this country is seriously in trouble

You act like all of us are involved in this? I'm not. Neutrality is a blessing; all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJdumFFPLqA

Spot on.

AAANNNDDD...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bshecCguSU

The voice of reason.

BEN SHAPIRO 2024
(After Trumps second term)LOL!

This comment was edited on Jan 12, 2018, 21:27.

Reading these comments as a German all I have to say: poor America, this country is seriously in trouble

Darks wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 20:54:
@ Beamer Im not wasting anymore time with you, people like you will never listen, in your mind no matter what anyone says you are always right. You want an example, go find a dictionary.

No time was wasted, you were never part of the conversation.

@ Beamer

Im not wasting anymore time with you, people like you will never listen, in your mind no matter what anyone says you are always right. You want an example, go find a dictionary.

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

/drops mic/

OMG!!! ROFLMAO!!!
You Americans really take the cake.
Talk about the worlds leading propensity to eat your own and the "snowflakes" are the worst.
The incessant need for outrage far exceeds the need to find the truth in practically every case when it concerns Trump.
So vicious and desperate is your hate it is almost palpable and yet it is you who describe him as hateful.
LARF! Oh the hypocrisy.

Oh lordy , I think my sides are going to split.

Must be time for another civil war eh?
Instead of North Vs South it will be "snowflakes" Vs conservatives.
My money is on the conservatives because "snowflakes" are weak as piss.

C'mon. Stop fucking around. Have at it.

BEN SHAPIRO 2024.
(After Trumps second term) LOL!

I actually had never read the whole thing before this discussion started up. Stop trying to preserve the glory of the Roman empire and lets try to make something better

The New Colossus
BY EMMA LAZARUS
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

Ah yes, now I remember why I don't read the comments on blues...

No one actually wishes to have a conversation. They are merely pontificating. When they are not, they are just waiting for their turn.

Gotchya.. See you guys in a few more years.

Also, while I think Reagan is the one who sowed the seeds for our current financial issues, there's this:

"Now, tomorrow is a special day for me. I'm going to receive my gold watch. And since this is the last speech that I will give as President, I think it's fitting to leave one final thought, an observation about a country which I love. It was stated best in a letter I received not long ago. A man wrote me and said: "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman. You can go to live in Germany or Turkey or Japan, but you cannot become a German, a Turk, or a Japanese. But anyone, from any corner of the Earth, can come to live in America and become an American."
Yes, the torch of Lady Liberty symbolizes our freedom and represents our heritage, the compact with our parents, our grandparents, and our ancestors. It is that lady who gives us our great and special place in the world. For it's the great life force of each generation of new Americans that guarantees that America's triumph shall continue unsurpassed into the next century and beyond. Other countries may seek to compete with us; but in one vital area, as a beacon of freedom and opportunity that draws the people of the world, no country on Earth comes close.
This, I believe, is one of the most important sources of America's greatness. We lead the world because, unique among nations, we draw our people—our strength-from every country and every corner of the world. And by doing so we continuously renew and enrich our nation. While other countries cling to the stale past, here in America we breathe life into dreams. We create the future, and the world follows us into tomorrow. Thanks to each wave of new arrivals to this land of opportunity, we're a nation forever young, forever bursting with energy and new ideas, and always on the cutting edge, always leading the world to the next frontier. This quality is vital to our future as a nation. If we ever closed the door to new Americans, our leadership in the world would soon be lost."
Ronald Reagan
January 19, 1989
Remarks at the Presentation Ceremony for the Presidential Medal of Freedom

Jeraxle wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 19:28:
Just for context, ** proceeds to complete ignore context **

No one really cares about a potty mouthed president. It's the context in which he said it.


Redeye9, please don't accuse people of shilling unless you have an actual reason - and thinking they're stupid doesn't count. It looks evasive, which you've no reason to be, and implies you can't comprehend people actually disagreeing with you.

Jeraxle wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 19:28:

Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 19:26:


These are wild tangents.
No one said that Haiti is a fantastically governed country. But this is the President. The leader of the free world. He needs to have tact. Some of his own citizens are from these countries, and he's sending what message to them?

You're also ignoring a very clear pattern of saying such things about non-white countries from our President.

And lastly, with Timmeh, I was taking offense to him saying that you can be what you want in America based on drive and tenacity. If this is true, does Timmeh lack the drive to be successful, or the tenacity?
Or is it all far, far more complicated than people like him try to make it out to be?

Just for context, Rolling Stone published the words of several of our potty mouthed Presidents:

Abraham Lincoln: "There is nothing to make an Englishman shit quicker than the sight of General George Washington."
Barack Obama: “Obama really drew the ire of the pious, calling opponent Mitt Romney a ‘bullshitter.’ Sometimes the dirty word is the most precise.”

Joe Biden: "This is a big f**king deal."
Dick Cheney: “Cheney reportedly told Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy to ‘go f**k [himself]’”
George W. Bush: “Commented on the presence of New York Times reporter Adam Clymer. Believing he had an audience of one, Bush called Clymer a ‘major-league asshole.’”
Barack Obama: "I don't think I should take any sh*t from anybody on that, do you?"
Richard Nixon: “The Watergate tapes put the phrase ‘expletive deleted’ on the map.”
Lyndon Johnson: "I do know the difference between chicken sh*t and chicken salad,"
John F. Kennedy: "This is obviously a f**k-up."
Harry Truman: “In Truman's eyes, General Douglas MacArthur was a "dumb son of a bitch," and Nixon was ‘a shifty-eyed goddamned liar.’”

Yes, and which of those are insulting to our people and our fellow nations?

Jeraxle wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 18:59:

Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 18:50:

Jeraxle wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 18:34:

jdreyer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 18:07:

I've posted this here before. Fox is untrue about 60% of the time compared to 20% for CNN.. Cable news sucks in general, but CNN is not that bad as these things go.

This is the problem with most discourse on the internet. Not picking a fight, just pointing out a fact. You linked to a horribly left leaning, democrat funded website and use that as your basis of "fact" without taking into consideration the source.

Of course Politifact is going to say that the right leaning news organization is wrong most of the time. It's called control.

Again, sources. Where are your sources that Politifact is "democrat funded?"
Please cite a source that isn't very clearly biased, such as The Blaze.

Here you go, Politifact's own website. Politifact
Democracy Fund was started by Pierre Omidyar, EBay founder. Huffington Post Op Ed by Pierre OmidyarDemocracy fund also was a major donor of the HRC campaign.

All using left leaning sources.

Edited for format

So not funded by the Democrats, but partially by a fund owned by a democrat. I misunderstood you.
Can you show me something in which Politifact is factually inaccurate?

Jeraxle wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 19:28:

Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 19:26:


These are wild tangents.
No one said that Haiti is a fantastically governed country. But this is the President. The leader of the free world. He needs to have tact. Some of his own citizens are from these countries, and he's sending what message to them?

You're also ignoring a very clear pattern of saying such things about non-white countries from our President.

And lastly, with Timmeh, I was taking offense to him saying that you can be what you want in America based on drive and tenacity. If this is true, does Timmeh lack the drive to be successful, or the tenacity?
Or is it all far, far more complicated than people like him try to make it out to be?

Just for context, Rolling Stone published the words of several of our potty mouthed Presidents:

Abraham Lincoln: "There is nothing to make an Englishman shit quicker than the sight of General George Washington."
Barack Obama: “Obama really drew the ire of the pious, calling opponent Mitt Romney a ‘bullshitter.’ Sometimes the dirty word is the most precise.”

Joe Biden: "This is a big f**king deal."
Dick Cheney: “Cheney reportedly told Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy to ‘go f**k [himself]’”
George W. Bush: “Commented on the presence of New York Times reporter Adam Clymer. Believing he had an audience of one, Bush called Clymer a ‘major-league asshole.’”
Barack Obama: "I don't think I should take any sh*t from anybody on that, do you?"
Richard Nixon: “The Watergate tapes put the phrase ‘expletive deleted’ on the map.”
Lyndon Johnson: "I do know the difference between chicken sh*t and chicken salad,"
John F. Kennedy: "This is obviously a f**k-up."
Harry Truman: “In Truman's eyes, General Douglas MacArthur was a "dumb son of a bitch," and Nixon was ‘a shifty-eyed goddamned liar.’”

You're doing a really piss poor job of shilling, much less understanding the subject matter. Congrats on your 14 years as a sleeper I guess.

Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 19:26:


These are wild tangents.
No one said that Haiti is a fantastically governed country. But this is the President. The leader of the free world. He needs to have tact. Some of his own citizens are from these countries, and he's sending what message to them?

You're also ignoring a very clear pattern of saying such things about non-white countries from our President.

And lastly, with Timmeh, I was taking offense to him saying that you can be what you want in America based on drive and tenacity. If this is true, does Timmeh lack the drive to be successful, or the tenacity?
Or is it all far, far more complicated than people like him try to make it out to be?

Just for context, Rolling Stone published the words of several of our potty mouthed Presidents:

Abraham Lincoln: "There is nothing to make an Englishman shit quicker than the sight of General George Washington."
Barack Obama: “Obama really drew the ire of the pious, calling opponent Mitt Romney a ‘bullshitter.’ Sometimes the dirty word is the most precise.”

Joe Biden: "This is a big f**king deal."
Dick Cheney: “Cheney reportedly told Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy to ‘go f**k [himself]’”
George W. Bush: “Commented on the presence of New York Times reporter Adam Clymer. Believing he had an audience of one, Bush called Clymer a ‘major-league asshole.’”
Barack Obama: "I don't think I should take any sh*t from anybody on that, do you?"
Richard Nixon: “The Watergate tapes put the phrase ‘expletive deleted’ on the map.”
Lyndon Johnson: "I do know the difference between chicken sh*t and chicken salad,"
John F. Kennedy: "This is obviously a f**k-up."
Harry Truman: “In Truman's eyes, General Douglas MacArthur was a "dumb son of a bitch," and Nixon was ‘a shifty-eyed goddamned liar.’”

Asmodai wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 18:55:

Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 12:06:

Timmeh wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:20:
Also..

America is not built on "diversity" that is a modern bunch of garbage leftists created to undermine the country like morons.

America is built on individuality and the freedom to be who and what you want to be based on your drive and tenacity. The diversity these leftist POS's throw around doesn't even mean close to the same thing.

another thing...

We should be working to import the best and the brightest even from a shithole country. not the lowest common denominator in order to line the voting tallies of the socialist democraps.

I repeatedly get the impression you're not exactly the most successful poster here.

Lol, if that's the bar for being right, it's pretty fucking low...

So the option is kowtow to the accepted opinion or freely express your own opinions despite the fact that it might make you unpopular with those that believe they have the moral high ground? For anyone with integrity, there is no choice.

What's braver, following the company line or speaking out? Pro tip Beamer, insulting people for their beliefs and opinions didn't work at the last election and isn't likely to work at the next... If the regressive left (and yeah, imo you qualify) isn't willing to live it's principles of diversity ie. accept diversity of thought, they will continue to alienate the centrists that, by virtue(signal) of people getting further to the left, actually look right wing... Swing voters who might actually toss out the Trump are being shooed away because they aren't as extreme as you want them to be.

Trump is completely unsuited to being the POTUS, but he's not wrong. These countries are shitholes, and the only people adding a racial element are the left. Would you want to live there? If the worst place in the US is better than the country of origin, it's a shithole... And imo it's refreshing to hear a politician actually express an opinion rather than indulge in political weasel words.

I do, however, notice that few people hesitate when pointing the finger and screaming bigot, racist, homophobe, misogynist, nazi... Yeah, you could make the point that the POTUS should be above that, but that hasn't really worked to date. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?

ps. Funny how few ever consider that the best and brightest who flee their home countries are likely the ones actually needed to pull those countries out of the holes they are in. Immigration gives people a chance of a better life, but it also skims the cream of the crop. The old 'cruel to be kind' adage applies here, these are the people that could usher in a new age for their nations. If they had assistance dismantling dictatorships and corrupt governments, they might actually manage to pull their country in to the 21st century.

These are wild tangents.
No one said that Haiti is a fantastically governed country. But this is the President. The leader of the free world. He needs to have tact. Some of his own citizens are from these countries, and he's sending what message to them?

You're also ignoring a very clear pattern of saying such things about non-white countries from our President.

And lastly, with Timmeh, I was taking offense to him saying that you can be what you want in America based on drive and tenacity. If this is true, does Timmeh lack the drive to be successful, or the tenacity?
Or is it all far, far more complicated than people like him try to make it out to be?