NewMaxx wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:56:
Honestly sick of the whole, "diversity is fantastic!" nonsense that gets inculcated into the skulls of children by liberal teachers. No, not all cultures are equal. No, the U.S. is not a playground for refugees from around the world. No, I don't care what Polygon or the ESA has to say about immigration.

Trump's statement was stupid but I don't need to get lectured by media pundits who have been brainwashed since birth to ironically be intolerant towards different beliefs when it suits their agenda. I'll go further and quite honestly say having to read political garbage on this site has made me move FAR away from using it like I used to and while the ESA qualifies as gaming-oriented in this case, I have to question the intelligence of many of the regulars here when they spout off about Trump like they are somehow enlightened when it's the same bullshit every time. Get over yourselves.

I noticed you guys never say anything good about Trump. You just dismiss the other side and attack the media, the left, Obama/Clinton, or whatever other boogeymen you guys believe in.

Anyways, guess what?. You live in a diverse nation, whether you like it or not. You could insulate yourself from it by living in a white neighborhood (plenty of places for that), but the rest of us want to live in this world. No, I don't believe diversity is inherently "fantastic". I do think having diverse police forces, government, and corporate leaders are better able to serve an already diverse populace. Right now? All those institutions are dominated by white males. I wonder why the United States has a such a huge problem with them these days?

He never used the S word

Where is the Fake News Awards? Be a man of your words.

As for the Shithole, yeah you don't do that coming from the Prez, he's a proven idiot, so no surprise really. As for us bagging on people coming into this country, many work the jobs we don't even consider. Why do we always want to find some that take advantage and put them all into that bucket unfairly? You wouldn't want others doing that to you. Sometimes I wish there were sit downs in various sectors in America, so we can all get a feeling of what they do and that most of us are in this together, doing our part each day. Man the hate. The lessons being forgotten, staggering.

NewMaxx wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:56:
Honestly sick of the whole, "diversity is fantastic!" nonsense that gets inculcated into the skulls of children by liberal teachers. No, not all cultures are equal. No, the U.S. is not a playground for refugees from around the world. No, I don't care what Polygon or the ESA has to say about immigration.

Trump's statement was stupid but I don't need to get lectured by media pundits who have been brainwashed since birth to ironically be intolerant towards different beliefs when it suits their agenda. I'll go further and quite honestly say having to read political garbage on this site has made me move FAR away from using it like I used to and while the ESA qualifies as gaming-oriented in this case, I have to question the intelligence of many of the regulars here when they spout off about Trump like they are somehow enlightened when it's the same bullshit every time. Get over yourselves.

You literally just complained about people not tolerating intolerance. You called it "different beliefs" but those beliefs are intolerance.

Feel free to question our intelligence. Your post isn't showing huge amounts of it. You're whining about "liberals" disliking you because of "different beliefs" when your beliefs are that countries full of brown people are shitholes and countries full of white people are ok. Wait, dislike that? Give me a country full of brown people you feel isn't a "shithole."

Timmeh wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:20:
Also..

America is not built on "diversity" that is a modern bunch of garbage leftists created to undermine the country like morons.

America is built on individuality and the freedom to be who and what you want to be based on your drive and tenacity. The diversity these leftist POS's throw around doesn't even mean close to the same thing.

another thing...

We should be working to import the best and the brightest even from a shithole country. not the lowest common denominator in order to line the voting tallies of the socialist democraps.

I repeatedly get the impression you're not exactly the most successful poster here. Now, is that because you have less drive, or less tenacity, than the others here?

Or is it that your drive and tenacity will pay off down the road?

scarlet wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:04:
Well, my first thought when wake in the morning is, “What is the ESA President’s on Trump’s latest tweet or comment?”

If ESA wants to speaks publicly about something, at least be intellectually honest, instead issuing feel-good platitudes. It’s a complete waste, like the #metoo campaign.

How is #metoo a waste?
Because you're a white male, and it makes you feel bad?

I think we need some Foxworthy jokes to explain this...

When you fled so the other tribe wouldn't eat you, it might be a shithole.

When beer is illegal but boys are not, it might be a shithole.

When the only white men you've ever seen wear light blue helmets, it might be a shithole.

When toilet paper counts as an invention, it might be a shithole.

When your toilet is the ditch in your street, it might be a shithole.

When you have to walk 3 miles just to get a bucket of clean water, it might be a shithole.

When the local hospital has to re-use the needles on its syringes, it might be a shithole.

When the only school in your entire city is a Massadrah, it might be a shithole.

shinchan0s wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:48:
Nobody would really deny that they're "shithole" countries. My problem with Trump saying it?

1) These words came the POTUS during an official meeting with lawmakers (it's just basic human decency and tact, but I guess you guys set the bar so low for Trump...)

2) The implication that people from failed states aren't worth immigrating, it really shouldn't matter where you come from. People from one race or country are not "inherently" lazy or stupid. Back in the 1800s, Germans were seen as dull. Before WW2, Japanese were seen as lazy.

3) It was reported that Trump instead suggested we open more immigration to Norway. I shouldn't have to spell out what was implied - whether Trump meant it or not. It SOUNDS bad.

THANK YOU! This and what Xero said are basically the points people are trying make against what Trump said.

The point of our President is that they are supposed to be the BEST of us. When they publicly make these kind of remarks it shows the U.S.A. in a ugly light. Our country is supposed to be better than this. If you ignore the distasteful way our President speaks because he is passing the legislation that you approve, then you have to accept the blowback from his behavior also. But, that doesn't mean that the ones who oppose him for his ways is wrong either.

The fact that this garbage is littering my gaming news kinda pisses me off. It's not gaming news just because the ESA responded to something stupid someone said about immigration with a generic socially approved form letter. Fuck.

Timmeh wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:12:
where were the Washington post, cnn, msnbc headlines when leading democrat Harry Reid was talking about how He wanted the common people out of congress and other sites because they "smelled".

If he said this on camera what are these people saying to each other off camera.

Man, who gives a s***. This is the knee-jerk defense for all you Trump troglodytes. It's always what about this or what about that. Well what about Fox News or conservative radio? You going to hold them to the same standard? At least the mainstream pubs truly do attempt to be objective. For conservative pubs? It's not even expected.

Anyways, you really think anything Harry freaking Reid says is as newsworthy as the garbage Trump says on a daily basis? Man, GTFO.

Honestly sick of the whole, "diversity is fantastic!" nonsense that gets inculcated into the skulls of children by liberal teachers. No, not all cultures are equal. No, the U.S. is not a playground for refugees from around the world. No, I don't care what Polygon or the ESA has to say about immigration.

Trump's statement was stupid but I don't need to get lectured by media pundits who have been brainwashed since birth to ironically be intolerant towards different beliefs when it suits their agenda. I'll go further and quite honestly say having to read political garbage on this site has made me move FAR away from using it like I used to and while the ESA qualifies as gaming-oriented in this case, I have to question the intelligence of many of the regulars here when they spout off about Trump like they are somehow enlightened when it's the same bullshit every time. Get over yourselves.

Nobody would really deny that they're "shithole" countries. My problem with Trump saying it?

1) These words came the POTUS during an official meeting with lawmakers (it's just basic human decency and tact, but I guess you guys set the bar so low for Trump...)

2) The implication that people from failed states aren't worth immigrating, it really shouldn't matter where you come from. People from one race or country are not "inherently" lazy or stupid. Back in the 1800s, Germans were seen as dull. Before WW2, Japanese were seen as lazy.

3) It was reported that Trump instead suggested we open more immigration to Norway. I shouldn't have to spell out what was implied - whether Trump meant it or not. It SOUNDS bad.

Timmeh wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:33:
How many things did Obama say in the last 8 years behind the scenes that could have been reported and were not?

Whoa, WHOA Tim! You're 5 post into this thread and you've already played your 'Whatabout Obama' Trump card! Try to stretch out the thread a little longer before you pull out your Hillary card!

Whether you agree with what he said or not, I'm sure the LEADER of the FREEWORLD could have selected a better choice of word to use.

The POTUS always had a strong stature amongst countries around the world for us showing our integrity and "peaceful" solutions to police the world. At this time, NOBODY in any other country thinks that way of the POTUS. If you simply don't care about that because your in it only for what he can do for you, well, quite selfish ah?

If the NYT writes it, and it's about Trump, it's (a) negative, and (b) fake news. Guaranteed.

This stuff really makes me angry..

How many things did Obama say in the last 8 years behind the scenes that could have been reported and were not?

You watch, if a democrat gets elected president next suddenly nothing but glowing positive stories non stop. only positive spin on every action. openly attacking anyone who disagrees, ignoring anything and everything that might be seen in a negative light.

That tells you all you need to know right there. This story is not about what Trump said its about how the main stream leftist media is nothing but a propaganda arm for the socialist democrats.

Quboid wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 10:32:

Linthat22 wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 10:09:
Then lets let all these bleeding hearts move to Haiti and tell us how great it is. Trump called Haiti a shithole, that's no different than calling Detroit a shithole.

Man, the media sure is twisting the weak minds of the populace.

It's the racial subtext of Trump's comment that's the problem, so it's completely different. Besides, that's not really something the US president should be calling places in the US either, is it?

There's no racial nothing to what he said. What you're saying is up there with people who say "micro-aggression" which is also complete B.S.

Also..

America is not built on "diversity" that is a modern bunch of garbage leftists created to undermine the country like morons.

America is built on individuality and the freedom to be who and what you want to be based on your drive and tenacity. The diversity these leftist POS's throw around doesn't even mean close to the same thing.

another thing...

We should be working to import the best and the brightest even from a shithole country. not the lowest common denominator in order to line the voting tallies of the socialist democraps.

Timmeh wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:13:

El Pit wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:09:
A real president should not have sayed "shithole countries", but this is Trump, not a president!

Also: Those countries obviously DO have problems - or why would so many try to flee the country?

So while there is some truth to what Trump said, it is mostly nowadays not what but HOW you say it. And Donnie is a dumb sledgehammer, where a clever scalpel would achieve easily much more than Donnie does.

He is a president and he is AWESOME because he doest do lying bullshit non stop like nearly all the past presidents.

The problem is he is stuck in a world of lying bullshit and morons who love lying bullshit.

Meds - you forgot your meds!

El Pit wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:09:
A real president should not have sayed "shithole countries", but this is Trump, not a president!

Also: Those countries obviously DO have problems - or why would so many try to flee the country?

So while there is some truth to what Trump said, it is mostly nowadays not what but HOW you say it. And Donnie is a dumb sledgehammer, where a clever scalpel would achieve easily much more than Donnie does.

He is a president and he is AWESOME because he doest do lying bullshit non stop like nearly all the past presidents.

The problem is he is stuck in a world of lying bullshit and morons who love lying bullshit.