Timmeh wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:12:
where were the Washington post, cnn, msnbc headlines when leading democrat Harry Reid was talking about how He wanted the common people out of congress and other sites because they "smelled".

If he said this on camera what are these people saying to each other off camera.

MAN that is twisting of reality.

There was a camera. I watched the video. HuffPo even wrote an article on it. Took 10 seconds to google.

He said that due to the heat and humidity, you could smell sweaty tourists in the capital building.

Which sure, we can get upset about it (also nice whataboutism) but at least f*cking get it right.

scarlet wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 10:54:
Much easier to condemn your own President, huh? Everybody’s doing it. You’re so hip. Why don’t condemn corrupt governments that make these countries awful places to live? You don’t, because that would truly be brave.

This has absoutely nothing to do with the diversity of this country, you buffoon. The only backward thinking I see is from you, ESA president.

Hey, if we're calling corrupt governments with rampant self-dealing and nepotism "shithole" governments...

We kind of by definition *have* to call Trump's administration a shithole.

Linthat22 wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 10:09:
Then lets let all these bleeding hearts move to Haiti and tell us how great it is. Trump called Haiti a shithole, that's no different than calling Detroit a shithole.

Man, the media sure is twisting the weak minds of the populace.

You're also missing the part where he asked if we could just "get rid" of all the Haitians in the US.

Dude's a straight-up racist.

dRumpf Demands Poem on Statue of Liberty Be Revised to Exclude Shithole Countries

"Why wont they see things my way?!" isn't really going to get you anywhere in this political climate. Just go find someone electable and support them in 2020. Get involved in local politics. Donate actual money to a political campaign. Trying to brow beat Beaver into agreeing with you is uh LOL. He's trolling you anyway, he believes none of it.

Protip - NOT FUCKING OPRAH

Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:40:

Muscular Beaver wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:33:

Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:12:

Muscular Beaver wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:07:

Yifes wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:02:

Muscular Beaver wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 12:56:
It really feels like they are religious fanatics, doesnt it? And when you talk to them, its even more obvious. Facts dont count for them. Their hypocrisy is astounding, even more so how they can ignore it and still claim they are in the right. Some of them are so crazy and illogical that I am really scared of them.

These people prove that the saying "The path to hell is paved with good intentions", is absolutely true.

That's a perfect description of the right. Religious indoctrination, ignoring facts in favor of faith and dogma is exactly how the conservative voter base conditions their children. I mean, you have people believing that the Earth is 5000 years old, denying fossil evidence and evolution; it's not a long stretch for them to deny all evidence and believe the bullshit coming out of Trump's mouth.

Thanks for confirming my points. Facts dont matter, you cant argue with them, because they will just twist everything to their liking. And thats why I dont argue with people like you anymore. Its literally useless and seems to make you people tick out even more, because truth and facts are triggering you...

What facts?
Give us facts and see how we respond.

Generally, you give opinions like "immigrants are bad!" That isn't a fact!
You're also bad at recognizing things. I remember you claiming NBC said "all" gamers were racist. They didn't do this.

Also a fact: you once claimed that you *need* to call people "fags" and the n word in games in order to prevent damage to yourself and those around you. That... is kind of scary and really should be your signature. People should know that about you.

Oh I have. Esecially to you. And I remember very well how you reacted to them. You dont remember? I am not surprised.

If Kellyanne ever gets fired, I think you'd make a fine replacement with your nonanswers.

@Beamer, that's just fucking mean.
And you forgot Sarah Huckabeest.

Verno wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:40:
"Lost their balls", not really, they just straight up "lost" to Trump. Asking a political party to sit around for the next 4-8 years and not wield power that they hold isn't terribly realistic. Most of these people have to answer to their constituents and whatever corporate interests put them there.

I guess they could stage some sort of bizarre impeachment scenario though on what grounds, I have no idea. Then we'll get....President Pence. I'm not sure people are being careful about they wish for here

I guess that's expected from GOP politicians; only those at the end of their careers can truly say what they think. I guess I'm just more disappointed by the blind partisanship of the conservative voters. I.e. Beaver's complete lack of self awareness and ironic hypocrisy would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

Verno wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:40:
I guess they could stage some sort of bizarre impeachment scenario though on what grounds, I have no idea. Then we'll get....President Pence. I'm not sure people are being careful about they wish for here

I think, to quote John Boehner, we need to truly bottom out before people realize we need change. I don't mean Trump, though he could be the bottom (anything worse and we're basically doomed, no?) I mean our entire political scheme as a whole.

Someone yesterday posted this article on Facebook (see, it does have good points) about a rural Democrat in Indiana. I disagree with that Senator on most of his social points. Which is ok. The only thing that really bothered me was him being cautious about homosexuality forcing beliefs on people, when banning it is basically just that. That's mild, though, as what he said can be taken many ways and I won't assume the worst.

The point being, he's a Democrat that doesn't toe the line. He wants to represent his constituents (perhaps to a fault in some regards), rather than represent his party. He wants to do what he feels is right and best for his people (and the country, I assume), not what will make MSNBC happy.

to Boehner's point, we need to get back to people falling to parties based on high level beliefs, not every single belief. Politicians and people both.

Verno wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:44:
"truth weather" is the new catchphrase of this thread

I was going to say the odds of the term "fake news" being used in this thread was probably around 100%, then WaltC dropped the f-bomb before I could even post the comment!

"truth weather" is the new catchphrase of this thread

Timmeh wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 11:05:
The real problem is ALL these people talk like this to each other off the record. but now the Democrap whiners report every little thing they can because their Marxist scumbag media buddies with make big headlines out of it.

And I agree with trump 100% these are shithole countries for the most part. just like 99% of the UN. Shithole dictatorships and communist paradises.

The only reason the democraps even want all these imports is because they are all so stupid that they vote democrap so they can load up on free everything while the democraps sell the USA down the shithole.

This is truth weather you millennial morons get it or not.

You know it's the red states that use the most "free stuff?"

Muscular Beaver wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:33:

Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:12:

Muscular Beaver wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:07:

Yifes wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:02:

Muscular Beaver wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 12:56:
It really feels like they are religious fanatics, doesnt it? And when you talk to them, its even more obvious. Facts dont count for them. Their hypocrisy is astounding, even more so how they can ignore it and still claim they are in the right. Some of them are so crazy and illogical that I am really scared of them.

These people prove that the saying "The path to hell is paved with good intentions", is absolutely true.

That's a perfect description of the right. Religious indoctrination, ignoring facts in favor of faith and dogma is exactly how the conservative voter base conditions their children. I mean, you have people believing that the Earth is 5000 years old, denying fossil evidence and evolution; it's not a long stretch for them to deny all evidence and believe the bullshit coming out of Trump's mouth.

Thanks for confirming my points. Facts dont matter, you cant argue with them, because they will just twist everything to their liking. And thats why I dont argue with people like you anymore. Its literally useless and seems to make you people tick out even more, because truth and facts are triggering you...

What facts?
Give us facts and see how we respond.

Generally, you give opinions like "immigrants are bad!" That isn't a fact!
You're also bad at recognizing things. I remember you claiming NBC said "all" gamers were racist. They didn't do this.

Also a fact: you once claimed that you *need* to call people "fags" and the n word in games in order to prevent damage to yourself and those around you. That... is kind of scary and really should be your signature. People should know that about you.

Oh I have. Esecially to you. And I remember very well how you reacted to them. You dont remember? I am not surprised.

If Kellyanne ever gets fired, I think you'd make a fine replacement with your nonanswers.

Yifes wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:09:
The conservative establishment fought him yes, but the moment he became the GOP nominee the conservatives lost their balls and sucked up. You have more sycophants like Christie than people like McCain. The fact that the majority of conservatives stoop so low as to continually support Trump is what's sad.

"Lost their balls", not really, they just straight up "lost" to Trump. Asking a political party to sit around for the next 4-8 years and not wield power that they hold isn't terribly realistic. Most of these people have to answer to their constituents and whatever corporate interests put them there.

I guess they could stage some sort of bizarre impeachment scenario though on what grounds, I have no idea. Then we'll get....President Pence, assuming Trump is able to be removed from office over whatever he was charged with. I'm not sure people are being careful about they wish for here

datachasm wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:22:
my thing... even if he called Haiti a shithole, how is that racist?

He was complaining about the people coming from the "shithole" countries, not the countries themselves. If he hadn't been talking about immigrants, but say, infrastructure or crime rates, you might have a point there. It would still be wildly inappropriate, but it wouldn't necessarily be racist.

But as with everything, context matters. He was talking about immigrants, and has a history of saying and doing things that could be construed as racist by a reasonable person.

You don't have to be spouting racial slurs and burning crosses to be a racist.

Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:12:

Muscular Beaver wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:07:

Yifes wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 13:02:

Muscular Beaver wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 12:56:
It really feels like they are religious fanatics, doesnt it? And when you talk to them, its even more obvious. Facts dont count for them. Their hypocrisy is astounding, even more so how they can ignore it and still claim they are in the right. Some of them are so crazy and illogical that I am really scared of them.

These people prove that the saying "The path to hell is paved with good intentions", is absolutely true.

That's a perfect description of the right. Religious indoctrination, ignoring facts in favor of faith and dogma is exactly how the conservative voter base conditions their children. I mean, you have people believing that the Earth is 5000 years old, denying fossil evidence and evolution; it's not a long stretch for them to deny all evidence and believe the bullshit coming out of Trump's mouth.

Thanks for confirming my points. Facts dont matter, you cant argue with them, because they will just twist everything to their liking. And thats why I dont argue with people like you anymore. Its literally useless and seems to make you people tick out even more, because truth and facts are triggering you...

What facts?
Give us facts and see how we respond.

Generally, you give opinions like "immigrants are bad!" That isn't a fact!
You're also bad at recognizing things. I remember you claiming NBC said "all" gamers were racist. They didn't do this.

Also a fact: you once claimed that you *need* to call people "fags" and the n word in games in order to prevent damage to yourself and those around you. That... is kind of scary and really should be your signature. People should know that about you.

Oh I have. Esecially to you. And I remember very well how you reacted to them. You dont remember? I am not surprised.

WorldViews
‘Here is what my #shithole looks like’: African countries and Haiti react to Trump’s remark

#ShitHolePresident!

my thing... even if he called Haiti a shithole, how is that racist?

i googled Haiti statistics and was told anywhere in Haiti there is a high likelihood of being raped murdered or robbed...

Operation Mockingbird

where was all the hate when Bush II was president? oh yea he was a company man

runnerct32 wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 12:13:
He never used the S word

Social?

shinchan0s wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 12:14:

I noticed you guys never say anything good about Trump. You just dismiss the other side and attack the media, the left, Obama/Clinton, or whatever other boogeymen you guys believe in.

It's because there is no valid defense of Trump except if you're a hardline Republican who just needs someone in the big chair who will sign literally anything Ryan and Mitch "The Turtle" McConnell shits out.

But even in that instance, they'd still be better off with Jeb! or the Zodiac Killer in there.

Trump is objectively not qualified to be President. You don't even need to rely on the media to know this. You can just watch unedited video of him speaking. The guy is feeble-minded, has zero knowledge of policy or even his own administrations positions on various issues, and sounds like a complete fucking retard. There is no context that makes it okay, or media spin to you can reverse to explain it away. This isn't just me being a partisan hack. None of what I say would apply to Mitt Romney, Jeb!, Zodiac Killer, or even Mike Pence.

Trump supporters never want to address this. Like you said, they'll just go "lololol what about Hillary LEL XD!"

ZeroPike1 wrote on Jan 12, 2018, 12:56:
Also I like the Norway thing. Norway is like one of the best countries to live in. They would need massive incentive to go to give that up and go to the US. So Trump might tout that idea as getting better people. But the better people know better then to immigrate to the US already.

What's funnier is Trump and his supporters will cite this country as an example, even though it's one of the most socialist countries in Europe (with a very comprehensive nanny-state). And they enjoy one of the highest standards of living on Earth, i highly doubt any of them would want to emigrate to a shithole like the USA. Oh, how do you Trump supporters feel being called a shithole ?