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27. Re: Zoo Theory Jan 3, 2018, 05:44 eRe4s3r
 
jdreyer wrote on Jan 3, 2018, 01:42:
eRe4s3r wrote on Jan 2, 2018, 21:54:
jdreyer wrote on Jan 2, 2018, 13:57:
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The problem with that theory is that it makes no sense. An alien society with technology above ours faces very real ethical questions to stop deaths sicknesses and wars, give us fusion power at least, stop us from killing the planet etc. Interference vs no interference isn't something you can decide on a whim. Imagine if we faced this proposition and you know what we would do, we would interfere. Star Trek prime directive is a big amount of useless text in the face of suffering and empathy.

It's misguided to assume an alien culture shares our values. Who knows what they are thinking. They could be completely agnostic, for example. Do you pay attention to the ants in your yard when you fix the fence?

It's not about sharing values though it'd be nice if they did, it's about the fact that no species behaves 100% monolithic so non-interference would never be the 100% agreed upon opinion. Unless they are an advanced AI or entirely digital, but then a zoo theory makes even less sense, they'd try to integrate us into a digital world. And ants are also very different among their species lines, but ants don't build space-ships Neither does any other living thing on this planet aside from us. Any advanced species would definitely regard space-ships as a sign of high intelligence.... if they got their own space-ships their society must contain scientists and curious individuals after all, and curiosity will never stop at a "you may not pass" sign.

Basically, you can't beat the Fermi Paradox, the most likely scenario (currently) is that we are indeed the only intelligent sentient life-form that is space-faring in our galaxy and any alien life we may ever come across is probably the kind we uplift from slightly lesser species or create ourselves through various factors.

Again, i'd advise you to read up on futurism and the fermi paradox. The read is heavily depressing if you believe in encountering aliens anytime in the next million years. Btw. Being the only one around that is sentient does not mean that we are unique as sentient beings, only that we have a unique time-slot all for us

Note: This does not mean there is no sentient life in this galaxy, just that it didn't get to the evolutionary level needed for advanced technologies either because of habitat (ocean dwellers are the losers in this, no advanced chemistry in water possible) etc.
 
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