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23. Re: Zoo Theory Jan 2, 2018, 21:54 eRe4s3r
jdreyer wrote on Jan 2, 2018, 13:57:

The problem with that theory is that it makes no sense. An alien society with technology above ours faces very real ethical questions to stop deaths sicknesses and wars, give us fusion power at least, stop us from killing the planet etc. Interference vs no interference isn't something you can decide on a whim. Imagine if we faced this proposition and you know what we would do, we would interfere. Star Trek prime directive is a big amount of useless text in the face of suffering and empathy.

But more importantly, no alien species could have detected us beyond a distance that we can very easily detect anything in. And it'd be a pretty far stretch to assume that they park not 1 space dreadnought with cloaking but a few million of them with crew or advanced AI (wouldn't that be scary) in order to make sure nothing interferes.

As I said, this theory isn't new. The big counter to it is that it assumes monolithic behavior of an entire alien society, and that it all converges on non-interference, which makes even less sense, You'd ALWAYS have outliers and malcontents with that guideline. They would need to enforce this hard, with military fleets numbering billions, sensors in the trillions and FTL. And the last one is really the killer argument ;p Unless FTL exists zoo theory can not. If FTL exists, that alien species would be sprawling trillion trillion planet empire with hundreds of colonized galaxies. And the zoo theory becomes even more moot then.

Caveat: They could choose to be a be sprawling empire in 1 solar system, with space habitats and proto dyson swarms. But that would mean no FTL exists. And if no FTL exists, they couldn't have detected us.
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