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Slick wrote on Dec 30, 2017, 17:29:
People are rightly outraged but I've seen very little in the discussion on how to actually win this fight. "better training" isn't going to cut it, there were multiple levels of failure here.
You're right. Better training isn't going to fix this. It would help a little, but ultimately you need better people in the first place. We also need to realize that when you're relying on humans, mistakes are inevitable: This means that you need to tailor your procedures to make the outcome of those mistakes less invariably fatal.
If we're at the point where some innocent unarmed guy is essentially ambushed with a spotlight in his face and yelled at with confusing orders, it's already gone off the rails, even if he doesn't end up getting shot. It shouldn't even get to that point.
I don't know what the solution is, but I'm sure there are some good ideas. There needs to be some earlier "out" of the situation.
For example, call the fucking house. Say you got a call from a concerned neighbor. Ask to talk to the person, ask em who is in the house, ask if you can speak to the other people in the house. If there is a shooting or a hostage situation, there's going to be huge red flags in how people respond to these requests. If things sound like a dangerous situation is unlikely, tell them you need to send a couple officers to check things out. Have a couple cops that don't look like some experimental Ubersoldat go up and knock on the fuckin door.
If things sound fishy, then yeah, it might be time to bring in the guys in the minigun wielding mechsuits. But god damn, Dear Piggies: use some kind of logic instead of just making these paranoid worst case scenario protocols that don't give anyone a chance to defuse the situation.
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Dec 30, 11:44 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 30, 11:51 |
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Bill Borre |
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Dec 30, 11:59 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 30, 12:52 |
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jdreyer |
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Dec 30, 12:54 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 30, 13:00 |
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Beamer |
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Dec 30, 17:44 |
Re: Saturday Legal Briefs |
ledhead1969 |
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Dec 30, 19:00 |
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Kxmode |
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Dec 30, 19:16 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 30, 12:52 |
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jdreyer |
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Dec 30, 13:01 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 30, 13:30 |
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xXStellarDadXx |
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Dec 30, 13:56 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 30, 16:58 |
Re: Saturday Legal Briefs |
NKD |
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Dec 30, 17:29 |
Re: Saturday Legal Briefs |
Slick |
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Dec 30, 18:30 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 30, 18:35 |
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eRe4s3r |
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Dec 30, 18:54 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 30, 19:08 |
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eRe4s3r |
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Dec 30, 21:02 |
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jdreyer |
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Dec 31, 08:05 |
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Retired |
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Dec 31, 08:10 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 31, 08:47 |
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Quboid |
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Dec 31, 10:13 |
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Retired |
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Dec 31, 13:25 |
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NKD |
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Dec 31, 14:10 |
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Kxmode |
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Dec 31, 08:52 |
Re: Saturday Legal Briefs |
Burrito of Peace |
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Dec 31, 15:29 |
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jdreyer |
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Dec 30, 19:09 |
Re: Saturday Legal Briefs |
NKD |
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Dec 30, 18:18 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 30, 18:56 |
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Kxmode |
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Dec 30, 19:24 |
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NamecaF |
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Dec 30, 19:38 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 31, 00:35 |
No subject |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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Dec 30, 19:47 |
Re: Saturday Legal Briefs |
1badmf |
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Dec 31, 10:03 |
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Beamer |
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Dec 31, 10:14 |
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Retired |
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Dec 31, 11:38 |
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Kxmode |
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Dec 31, 11:44 |
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Quboid |
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Dec 31, 11:51 |
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Kxmode |
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Dec 31, 11:56 |
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Quboid |
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Dec 31, 13:50 |
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Kxmode |
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Dec 31, 14:00 |
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Quboid |
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Dec 31, 14:11 |
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Kxmode |
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Dec 31, 14:29 |
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Quboid |
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Dec 31, 15:11 |
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Kxmode |
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Dec 31, 15:59 |
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Quboid |
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Dec 31, 14:16 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 31, 14:19 |
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Kxmode |
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Dec 31, 15:38 |
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jdreyer |
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Dec 31, 16:30 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 31, 15:34 |
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jdreyer |
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Dec 31, 20:11 |
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Beamer |
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Dec 30, 20:26 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 31, 08:03 |
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Redmask |
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Dec 30, 23:50 |
Re: Saturday Legal Briefs |
Cutter |
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Dec 31, 09:21 |
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Kxmode |
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Dec 31, 09:19 |
Re: Saturday Legal Briefs |
Redmask |
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Dec 31, 15:32 |
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jdreyer |
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Dec 31, 20:13 |
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Redmask |
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Dec 31, 20:38 |
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RedEye9 |
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Dec 31, 21:25 |
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Burrito of Peace |
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Jan 4, 12:52 |
No subject |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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Jan 1, 10:24 |
Re: Saturday Legal Briefs |
Redmask |
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Jan 1, 13:16 |
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Burrito of Peace |
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Jan 1, 13:41 |
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Redmask |
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Jan 1, 13:33 |
Re: Saturday Legal Briefs |
jdreyer |
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Jan 1, 13:54 |
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Redmask |
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Jan 1, 17:46 |
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Beamer |
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Jan 2, 14:47 |
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jdreyer |
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Jan 4, 15:19 |
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Verno |
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Jan 5, 20:41 |
No subject |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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Jan 8, 11:48 |
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Verno |
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