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BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG

BattlEye tweets that an eye-opening number of players have been banned from PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS by their anti-cheating service (thanks MP1ST). People must really like chicken dinner by the number of them willing to flout the rules to get one. Word is:

Update on the number of PUBG bans: 1,500,000.

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40. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 30, 2017, 19:20 eRe4s3r
 
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 30, 2017, 10:47:
eRe4s3r wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 22:35:
Remember, Sartre was the only writer ever that refused the Nobel prize. He was a dude that knew what was going on. But I don't think he would have enjoyed the digital age....
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1964/12/17/sartre-on-the-nobel-prize/

Interesting thought; Would he have been happy that the cold war ended in 1990, 10 years after he died? Or would he have correctly realized that the cold war was the only thing binding many countries to a common doctrine and that the collapse of the USSR would cause dozens of wars?

Thinking about it some more, he most definitely predicted this

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39. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 30, 2017, 10:47 RedEye9
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 22:35:
Remember, Sartre was the only writer ever that refused the Nobel prize. He was a dude that knew what was going on. But I don't think he would have enjoyed the digital age....
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1964/12/17/sartre-on-the-nobel-prize/
 
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38. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 30, 2017, 01:40 Sepharo
 
grudgebearer wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 22:48:
Sepharo wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 02:58:
My squad has been winning a bunch lately.
I got my first solo win last week.
On another forum I have friends posting win screenshots daily.
I only encountered an obvious cheater once in the 166 hours and it was a month or so ago.

But I also play at weird times so maybe it's not lining up with either U.S. or Chinese prime times.

You won't see the Chinese cheaters/farmers/scripters in team matches. The BP/game ratio isn't worth it for the time involved. You can just put 4 Chinese farmer accounts in solo, and net much more BP/hour than splitting it in the squad matches.

Well the one time I did see a hacker it was in squad which is what I mostly play.
But I did play Solo all day today, didn't see any cheaters, was roughly 50% on top 10s.
Then my roommate comes home and we get a Duo win first try
 
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37. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 22:48 grudgebearer
 
Sepharo wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 02:58:
My squad has been winning a bunch lately.
I got my first solo win last week.
On another forum I have friends posting win screenshots daily.
I only encountered an obvious cheater once in the 166 hours and it was a month or so ago.

But I also play at weird times so maybe it's not lining up with either U.S. or Chinese prime times.

You won't see the Chinese cheaters/farmers/scripters in team matches. The BP/game ratio isn't worth it for the time involved. You can just put 4 Chinese farmer accounts in solo, and net much more BP/hour than splitting it in the squad matches.
 
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36. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 22:35 eRe4s3r
 
NewMaxx wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 15:34:
jdreyer wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 15:15:
Yeah, I'm hopeful that better, more realistic AI can help create more compelling experiences when you don't feel like interacting with human beings and all of their issues.

I like to think Sartre foresaw multiplayer gaming. "Hell is other people." That's how I see it.

Remember, Sartre was the only writer ever that refused the Nobel prize. He was a dude that knew what was going on. But I don't think he would have enjoyed the digital age....
 
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35. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 17:12 Flatline
 
Quinn wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 07:30:
These bans are so after-the-fact that you can simply never be even a little bit certain that you're up against non-cheaters.

I've been outplayed so many times in PUBG that I just cannot believe I suck that fucking much. People seem to know exactly where I am and take a fuckload of bullets. Yesterday I put 2 shotgun shells in an enemy before he turned around and oneshotted me. That was 20 minutes of my life I'll never get back -- which is the general sensation I'm having when playing this fucking game.

As for players knowing right where you are, I know some people play often enough that they learn general player behavior due to supply drops, upgrades, etc... and hunt those out. I don't play PUBG so I can't really comment specifically, but I've seen some people play that really have player behavior down pretty well.

As for the shotgun, I dunno how bullet spongy the game is in general, but bad netcoding and lag can do that. When packets get out of sync and prediction becomes less and less reliable, who do you trust? Sounds like the prediction and netcode blows. Either that or people are either making use of lag or inducing lag to manipulate the system.
 
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34. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 15:34 NewMaxx
 
jdreyer wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 15:15:
Yeah, I'm hopeful that better, more realistic AI can help create more compelling experiences when you don't feel like interacting with human beings and all of their issues.

I like to think Sartre foresaw multiplayer gaming. "Hell is other people." That's how I see it.
 
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33. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 15:15 jdreyer
 
Porn-O-Matic wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 13:37:
News headline: "The single player game is dying."

Oh really? And you call this constant flow of cheater bullshit to be a more enjoyable alternative? Dear game developers, please go fuck yourselves until you die.

Yeah, I'm hopeful that better, more realistic AI can help create more compelling experiences when you don't feel like interacting with human beings and all of their issues.
 
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32. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 13:37 Porn-O-Matic
 
News headline: "The single player game is dying."

Oh really? And you call this constant flow of cheater bullshit to be a more enjoyable alternative? Dear game developers, please go fuck yourselves until you die.
 
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31. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 13:16 Sepharo
 
Retired wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 08:20:
aka_STEVE wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 08:04:
Seriously I wonder if you guys are right.... if the companies put an end to items that you could sell for real cash, would that cut down on the foreign hackers farming for crap constantly ?...or is their always going to be some kind of workaround to sell?
Like high level gear on a character w/ great weapons - they sell the entire account then or what ?

I don't have the answers. I'd just like somebody to figure it all out and implement it.

Remove money related items, and 99.9% of cheaters move on. They will farm something else.
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Yep just like in the Counter-Strike days...
err wait.
 
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30. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 12:11 Muscular Beaver
 
Quinn wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 07:30:
These bans are so after-the-fact that you can simply never be even a little bit certain that you're up against non-cheaters.

I've been outplayed so many times in PUBG that I just cannot believe I suck that fucking much. People seem to know exactly where I am and take a fuckload of bullets. Yesterday I put 2 shotgun shells in an enemy before he turned around and oneshotted me. That was 20 minutes of my life I'll never get back -- which is the general sensation I'm having when playing this fucking game.
Thats the real problem with cheaters. They damage your confidence. You sometimes really think you are that bad, you cant be sure of anything anymore.

The thing also is, and everyone who has been helping in Overwatch in CSGO for quite some time knows this, is that even with not as many Chinese farmers, many cheaters try to hide they are cheating. Its very hard to even see they are cheating, if you dont see the replay. And even then its sometimes just a matter of experience, to know how these cheats work to be able to recognize them (many years ago I used those cheats myself on my private server when watching other people play, to be able to recognize cheaters). Sometimes I even ask myself how the people reporting could have become enough suspicious to watch their own game again after, because they hide it so well. They even eat deaths and injury, do fake mistakes, etc. to look normal.
 
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29. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 09:59 NewMaxx
 
The fact that developer Douchebag McGillicutty...excuse me, the great and unerring benevolence that is Brendan Greene...thinks that region locking is xenophobic is enough to make you question his sanity, let alone some of the other shit he's said. Your game is going to be held back by such narrow thinking as that and "copying is bad" (hell, strong competitors to his game might be the fuel he needs to get off his ass and implement some real fixes). What I find most interesting is that some people say he was referring specifically to things like Chinese knock-offs in that latter comment, yet we have him decrying racism against Chinese on things like cheating here. For those unable to follow, both of those things (denying would-be copies and foregoing a region lock) have an economic benefit for the guy talking out of his ass...  
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28. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 08:20 Retired
 
aka_STEVE wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 08:04:
Seriously I wonder if you guys are right.... if the companies put an end to items that you could sell for real cash, would that cut down on the foreign hackers farming for crap constantly ?...or is their always going to be some kind of workaround to sell?
Like high level gear on a character w/ great weapons - they sell the entire account then or what ?

I don't have the answers. I'd just like somebody to figure it all out and implement it.

Remove money related items, and 99.9% of cheaters move on. They will farm something else.
 
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27. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 08:04 aka_STEVE
 
Seriously I wonder if you guys are right.... if the companies put an end to items that you could sell for real cash, would that cut down on the foreign hackers farming for crap constantly ?...or is their always going to be some kind of workaround to sell?
Like high level gear on a character w/ great weapons - they sell the entire account then or what ?

I don't have the answers. I'd just like somebody to figure it all out and implement it.
 
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26. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 07:30 Quinn
 
These bans are so after-the-fact that you can simply never be even a little bit certain that you're up against non-cheaters.

I've been outplayed so many times in PUBG that I just cannot believe I suck that fucking much. People seem to know exactly where I am and take a fuckload of bullets. Yesterday I put 2 shotgun shells in an enemy before he turned around and oneshotted me. That was 20 minutes of my life I'll never get back -- which is the general sensation I'm having when playing this fucking game.
 
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25. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG [ Dec 29, 2017, 06:29 MrGrosser
 
You still have access to your inventory if you've been banned from the game.

So.. you cheat at a bunch of games. Earn 10-20 cases a day maybe. I'm going at about 700BP a win. Buy crates... transfer them off to a legit account. The only thing you really lose is access to the game. So whatever BattlePoints they didn't spend are gone.

I don't think Steam has gone as far as flagging items transferred from a now banned account. Even so.. it could be something completely different now. The Banned account could have just bought crates, sent them to clean account which now opens them, and now they are hat. While I'm guessing there is a way or it is possible to track this.. Steam probably doesn't care that much. You're only hurting other people that probably don't know who they are buying from.
 
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24. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 06:06 Orogogus
 
Steele Johnson wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 03:57:
These game companies need to design their games better!

This is a common argument in this thread, but it seems kind of glib. If people don't believe it's possible for companies to create reliable anti-piracy DRM because pirates are so good, why would it be any easier to stop cheaters?

eRe4s3r wrote on Dec 29, 2017, 01:17:
You know, they could just reverse all trades these banned accounts did and that would insta ruin these chinese farmers due to charge-backs. But that would cost them money, banning them earns them money.

Seams like a developer supported money laundering racket to me.

I'm not sure I understand. PUBG money farming goes through Steam, right? So a player buys an item from a cheater, then PUBG bans the cheater, and then asks Valve to reverse the trade? Is that something Valve ever does? Or does the buyer initiate a chargeback through their credit card company? I think Valve automatically locks down people's Steam accounts if that happens, since they're the ones who get hit with the chargeback fee.
 
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23. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 04:33 Retired
 
Haven't played since the 1GB update yesterday? Been busy around the house with projects. Hope it helps. I have been killed more recently by hackers in about 50% of the games I play. Watching replays makes it so obvious, they aren't even trying to hide the fact they are cheating.

I made some posts and I do see a few were removed from the top 10. When the headshot % is 60%+ I don't understand how that escapes their checks and balances.

/edit: Played 4 games. Not noticing any cheaters, but didn't watch full replays or pay much attention to kill feed. My deaths were all legit.

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22. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 03:57 Steele Johnson
 
I rarely play mp games these days. Way too much easy hacking. These game companies need to design their games better!  
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21. Re: BattlEye Bans a Boatload in PUBG Dec 29, 2017, 02:58 Sepharo
 
My squad has been winning a bunch lately.
I got my first solo win last week.
On another forum I have friends posting win screenshots daily.
I only encountered an obvious cheater once in the 166 hours and it was a month or so ago.

But I also play at weird times so maybe it's not lining up with either U.S. or Chinese prime times.
 
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