Paranoid Jack wrote on Dec 23, 2017, 00:26:

Saboth wrote on Dec 22, 2017, 20:33:

RedEye9 wrote on Dec 22, 2017, 20:16:
There is no good news when you're layed off, the $1000 is a joke and won't even cover most folks house payment. More drumpf lies.

With healthcare going up due to Trump and the GOP, and Republicans trying to destroy what little healthcare system we have left, they'd better save that $1,000 in case they get sick. Whatever "tax refund" people get from the Tax Scam will most likely be eaten up by much higher healthcare premiums as the GOP continuously attacks our only healthcare system while having absolutely nothing to replace it with.

We had a health care system long before Obama turned it into a health care tax system. I'm not saying it was great but it sure was a lot cheaper before Obamacare. Do you know anyone that didn't have their health care at least double if not triple during his presidency? Don't worry though I am sure somebody you like better will be in office sooner or later to help us all toward socialized medicine and a universal living wage.

There are articles discussing medical insurance costs. Medical costs have been outpacing inflation for decades, it was always spiraling upward. But here is the thing with new laws, it give companies a way to mask their desires. The biggest difference pre & post AHA is the deductibles went up. Companies certainly used AHA as the reason, but many stories revolving around companies who wanted to move to this model for a while and this was the springboard they needed to sell it. For decades the saying was "Any doubt go see a Dr.", this cost companies a lot of money. The way to stop that is to build an initial wall of costs so large that people would think 3 times before going to the Dr. It has worked bigly, what many have is catastrophic insurance, only use it when in a total emergency. ER visits are also now greatly frowned upon and have their own separate deductibles now because of ridiculous costs. This isn't AHA driven it is a cost problem. And what has popped up in ER's place? "Urgent Care", the cheap(er) alternative.

This is the same thing with the Enron law that came about in the mid 2000's under Bush. We are going to protect the people so they don't lose everything when a company goes belly up in the manner Enron lied to the public quarterly. What happened? Companies cut back massively in traditional retirement packages, these rules now are to strict. But they were wanting to get out of the traditional retirement for years. This is just another time when a law allowed companies to redo a problem to their way and blame the law.