Paranoid Jack wrote on Dec 23, 2017, 22:33:
Anyone who has used what is now the welfare system in America or worked for it can tell you without a doubt the rate of fraud is much higher than reported. But why would they? You don't bite the hand that feeds. They also know that the actual number of people living off the system that are able to work but just refuse to is far higher than you may think. So knowing the stats would be great but it will never happen since there is no way to get the real stats. People commiting fraud rarely rat themselves out.
I don't blame them. I blame the bleeding heart liberals. Just like I would blame a drug dealer giving the first taste for free. These people are hooked. They are going nowhere. Few break away from the system. Ask yourself why would they work? They can get more money free with little to no taxes by staying on the system. We will pay them to live while they have one child after another with no fathers. Have another child get a pay increase. Have an inspector show up to find anything that indicates a man is living in the house the amount of money they get is cut. Did you go beyond the legal number of years that we can give you free money? No worries we will send you to school and we will pay you more. When you get out of school we will employ you within the welfare department and you will still pay little to no taxes. Sounds great right? Maybe now you know why it takes so many people to cut those checks? Maybe you're getting a bit of a clue?
Those are only a few of the programs I have mentioned. There are a lot more. Most you have probably never heard of. Free cell phones? A full house of new furniture within a six months rent free living arrangement? Don't get me started on people from other countries coming here to retire and collecting social security even though they have never paid one cent into the system.
Just so we're clear I have less issue with these systems more so with the many ways people are allowed to game them. Again we can all believe that socialist systems works but they don't. If you think so you are bias, looking through rose colored glasses, or have zero experience with these systems. I am not saying that there aren't people that have been helped up that were then able to stand on their own carrying on a normal life outside of the welfare system but they are a small portion of those who have used the system.
The reason I know so much again is from experience. I have a close relative that works inside the system and a few not so close relatives that are gaming the system. Anyone with a fifth grade education can game this system. Thankfully the people of California have legalized weed because without the taxes the entire state would be bankrupt soon, very soon. Sorry, for responding now. Still I wish you all a merry Christmas and happy holidays.
Quality post. Somebody asking for statistics on the actual fraud and abuse of the welfare system is hilarious. Sure there are some people who use it legitimately. But it's ridiculous to think the abuse of the system is not not a serious issue. People will always game a system, ANY SYSTEM, to their advantage. It's called 'Human Nature'. When the non-working person can have the same lifestyle as the working person why should they work? And why should the working man continue
to be stupid and work? For pride? Is that what you want? Of course people game the system. If somebody says they know X who games the system and you respond with I know person Y who "DOESN'T" game the system, then your score is 1 to 1. Yet you come to a conclusion that it's a majority in your favor? GMAFB! Obama was called the Food Stamp president for a reason, not just *#$^@^ and giggles. You want statistics Here you go.http://www.trivisonno.com/wp-content/uploads/Food-Stamps-Monthly.jpg
I don't blame the people either. It's human nature to want to live a lifestyle the easiest way possible. And if that's means gaming a system, the very SAME system that politicians game (or a better word might be "rig") for THEIR benefits, then so be it.
This United States was about to collapse on itself from the debt it owes other nations. Socialism is a wonderful idea in theory. But as Paranoid Jack says better than I do. It doesn't fail in theory. It fails, miserably, in practice. The only reason the United States isn't collapsing on itself yet is because of the constant "push" towards socialism by democrats and the constant "pull" from socialism by republicans. If the Democrats have their way long enough, this whole nation is toast.
P.S. You don't have to apologize for responding to a thread that's 2 days old. I just responded to a thread on another website that was 2+ years old. LoL. The Internet is immortal. That's just the way it is.
P.S.S. The most hilarious cartoon:https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/wizard-of-id-parody.jpgThis comment was edited on Dec 25, 2017, 15:23.
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