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12. Re: Morning Safety Dance Dec 17, 2017, 12:19 jdreyer
 
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 16, 2017, 11:52:
Both World Wars obviously did not help but they were not the only cause.
6. Why did the British empire decline?

There is no simple answer to this question. The empire changed throughout its history. In the 19th century, some parts of the empire became Dominions. These were states that were still part of the empire, but ruled themselves. In most cases this happened peacefully, although there was serious violence in Ireland.

The First and Second World Wars left Britain weakened and less interested in its empire. Also many parts of the empire contributed troops and resources to the war effort and took an increasingly independent view. This led to a steady decline of the empire after 1945. In the Asian and African colonies, nationalist movements used a range of methods to end British rule. By the late 1960s, most of Britain's territories had become independent countries.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/empire/intro/overview6.htm
Watch "The Crown" on netflix for tiny glimpses of history that will leave you wanting to learn more.

Speaking of glimpses of history, I highly recommend The History of England podcast with David Crowther. It's interesting stuff, and David is quite funny. He just finished a multi-part series on Anne Boleyn. Entertaining and educational.
 
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11. Re: Morning Safety Dance Dec 16, 2017, 11:52 RedEye9
 

Both World Wars obviously did not help but they were not the only cause.
6. Why did the British empire decline?

There is no simple answer to this question. The empire changed throughout its history. In the 19th century, some parts of the empire became Dominions. These were states that were still part of the empire, but ruled themselves. In most cases this happened peacefully, although there was serious violence in Ireland.

The First and Second World Wars left Britain weakened and less interested in its empire. Also many parts of the empire contributed troops and resources to the war effort and took an increasingly independent view. This led to a steady decline of the empire after 1945. In the Asian and African colonies, nationalist movements used a range of methods to end British rule. By the late 1960s, most of Britain's territories had become independent countries.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/empire/intro/overview6.htm
Watch "The Crown" on netflix for tiny glimpses of history that will leave you wanting to learn more.
 
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10. Re: Morning Safety Dance Dec 16, 2017, 09:52 Numinar
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 15, 2017, 22:29:
Numinar wrote on Dec 15, 2017, 21:37:
London could still be the center of world trade and finance if they didn't blow it all on the WW.
Err, without looking into it, I am willing to bet the reason London is no longer the center of world trade and finance has little to nothing to do with World War I expenditures. However, I'd be willing to entertain the possibility of being wrong if you can point to something indicating otherwise...

Ok maybe it's an assumption from someone who never studied history, but it was the hub of all those things before the war, and was not after. They bankrolled a lot of their allies and the ungodly amount of loans they had to take out from the US to keep that insane, mult-million man army going for years drained the wealth of their Victorian golden age like nothing else.

I mean, maybe they were on the way out anyway but it sure didn't help!
 
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9. Re: Morning Safety Dance Dec 15, 2017, 22:29 Mr. Tact
 
Numinar wrote on Dec 15, 2017, 21:37:
London could still be the center of world trade and finance if they didn't blow it all on the WW.
Err, without looking into it, I am willing to bet the reason London is no longer the center of world trade and finance has little to nothing to do with World War I expenditures. However, I'd be willing to entertain the possibility of being wrong if you can point to something indicating otherwise...
 
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8. Re: Morning Safety Dance Dec 15, 2017, 21:37 Numinar
 
It would be almost irresponsible for any military NOT to have multiple pre-planted cable cutting devices, ready to be triggered, on every one of these links. Same goes for those cable sniffing devices. Maybe you can make a two in one thing. And some obvious designed to be found ones to help your rivals get complacent.

If you don't have everything tapped, then your intelligence service is a B grade waste of money at best.

As for England, it's a third rate power with 2nd rate power ambitions and 1st rate power memories. Might have to give up on aircraft carriers and nuclear subs lads. London could still be the center of world trade and finance if they didn't blow it all on the WW.
 
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7. Re: Morning Safety Dance Dec 15, 2017, 16:58 Beamer
 
Creston wrote on Dec 15, 2017, 16:54:
Sure they could. I mean, everybody COULD cut these vital cables.


Pffft, $5 says you can't.

 
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6. Re: Morning Safety Dance Dec 15, 2017, 16:54 Creston
 
Sure they could. I mean, everybody COULD cut these vital cables.

Why would they? They'd hurt themselves as much as everyone else, and their economical situation is far more precarious than (most) everyone else.

 
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5. Re: Morning Safety Dance Dec 15, 2017, 14:59 RedEye9
 
Cutter wrote on Dec 15, 2017, 14:42:
In a speech made to military think-tank the Royal United Services Institute last night, the air marshal said: "There's a new risk to our way of life, which is the vulnerability of cables which criss cross the sea beds. Can you imagine a scenario where those cables are cut or disrupted? Which would immediately and potentially catastrophically affect our economy and other ways of living if they were disrupted."

Hyperbolize much? If your country would completely implode from lack of internet, you're doing it wrong. Gee, why would a military leader say something like this?

A stagnant defence budget, allied to possible inflation-driven cuts to internal spending, mean the Royal Navy is facing decades of severe overstretch.

Ahh there we go. Yes, we must not allow a mineshaft gap!!!
Britain is all too aware of the precarious position they are in, as a self professed history authority you might remember...
Egypt seizes Suez Canal, circa 1956
I have it on good authority that they live on an island sitting in the middle of an ocean. It's a big ocean. It's a very big ocean.
 
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4. Re: Morning Safety Dance Dec 15, 2017, 14:42 Cutter
 
In a speech made to military think-tank the Royal United Services Institute last night, the air marshal said: "There's a new risk to our way of life, which is the vulnerability of cables which criss cross the sea beds. Can you imagine a scenario where those cables are cut or disrupted? Which would immediately and potentially catastrophically affect our economy and other ways of living if they were disrupted."

Hyperbolize much? If your country would completely implode from lack of internet, you're doing it wrong. Gee, why would a military leader say something like this?

A stagnant defence budget, allied to possible inflation-driven cuts to internal spending, mean the Royal Navy is facing decades of severe overstretch.

Ahh there we go. Yes, we must not allow a mineshaft gap!!!
 
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3. Re: Morning Safety Dance Dec 15, 2017, 12:17 RedEye9
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 15, 2017, 09:33:
As opposed to when.. what? Has this ever not been a possibility?
Yes, it has always been a possibility. The quicker they chop them the safer and more secure our future elections will be.
We'd chop them ourselves but it's unlikely that Putin would give donny the required approval. sigh

The brits are very familiar with this sort of thing, they practically pioneered it.
 
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2. Re: Morning Safety Dance Dec 15, 2017, 12:13 jdreyer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 15, 2017, 09:33:
As opposed to when.. what? Has this ever not been a possibility?

Yeah, they've had this ability for decades. I suppose there's a bigger chance they'd do it today than in the past though. Their military has been pulling all kinds of unprofessional shit lately.
 
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1. Re: Morning Safety Dance Dec 15, 2017, 09:33 Mr. Tact
 
As opposed to when.. what? Has this ever not been a possibility?  
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