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31. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 15, 2017, 19:33 ventry
 
The USA:

What do we want?

DEMOCRACY!!!!

When do we want it?

ONLY IF WE GET OUR WAY!!!

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30. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 15, 2017, 10:37 HorrorScope
 
NicklePop wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 21:24:
I'm Republican-ish: definitely opposed.

Understand the argument for it though, which is basically "get out of our face government" and allow the free market (which is proven since 1300) to create innovation and wealth for the entire population.

Some thing will rise and kill price gauging by offering a cheaper alternative.

I guess I semi-agree with it LOL

It sounds good, but in reality someone will always cheat and when one does it, it forces the rest to do it. Lower standards, race to the bottom. The whole gov't get out of my face is a dream heaven is made of. We have to have regulations because people will always undercut and then to a point gouging/safety becomes a concern. I'm liberal slanted (solely based on we are all different), but center'ish overall. I'd be right there in line, if I felt this idea of gov't get out of my face works. THERE IS ALWAYS AT LEAST ONE THAT WILL SCREW IT UP AND THAT IS WHY A LAW/REGULATION IS MADE. They aren't made out of thin air, there is a case and that case is studied and ruled upon, sometimes triggering the gov't to take action in. We have to accept that reality and then understand why gov't is needed. It is, if you are thinking not, then you need to keep on thinking.

Free market's have already not applied to ISP's, they've already created laws that are anti-competition. They've also grown so large and powerful to eat up competition as well. They've also shown that we've given them tax dollars to Build X and they didn't and pocketed it. AGAIN ALL REASONS FOR GOV'T, LAWS AND REGULATIONS. CAUSE THE FUCKERS CHEATED.
 
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29. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 15, 2017, 04:33 Kxmode
 
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28. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 15, 2017, 03:26 El Pit
 
KilrathiAce wrote on Dec 15, 2017, 00:17:
Rich get richer.

And the poor get poorer - see? Everybody GETS something. I can feel the Spirit of Christmas right here!
 
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27. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 15, 2017, 00:47 jdreyer
 
Creston wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 22:01:
all because our whore senators and congressmen allows themselves to be bribed for a fucking lollypop and an AT&T Reece's coffee mug

I had to fix that for you.

I hope you'll still find it so funny when your ISP of No-Choice slows your access to something you find interesting to a fucking crawl, unless you buy another "website pass" for xx amount of dollars per month.

Also, when it blocks all his porn because porn is "against the Christian values of our company."
 
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26. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 15, 2017, 00:42 jdreyer
 
NicklePop wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 21:24:
I'm Republican-ish: definitely opposed.

Understand the argument for it though, which is basically "get out of our face government" and allow the free market (which is proven since 1300) to create innovation and wealth for the entire population.

Some thing will rise and kill price gauging by offering a cheaper alternative.

I guess I semi-agree with it LOL

Well "Free Market" <> monopoly, so there's that. ISPs are regional monopolies and duopolies. That's the basic problem. If there were 10 ISPs in each region, you wouldn't need much (if any) regulation, since competition would create customer-focused products (as opposed to the current corporation-focused products, poor customer service, and harvesting mode).

EDIT: Also what Creston said in such detail.
 
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25. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 15, 2017, 00:17 KilrathiAce
 
Rich get richer.  
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24. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 23:41 eRe4s3r
 
Cutter wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 23:01:
Here's a nice little infogram of what's coming down the pipe for you in short order. This is how it works in Portugal. Enjoy. Might want to order that 55 gallon drum of lube off Amazon because your ass is gonna' need it.

To be fair that's a mobile data plan.... and compared to the ones you can buy in "neutrality" countries, it's one hell of a good offer too. 10gb for 5€ is absolutely insane, I pay 6€ for 1gb ~.~
 
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23. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 23:01 Cutter
 
Here's a nice little infogram of what's coming down the pipe for you in short order. This is how it works in Portugal. Enjoy. Might want to order that 55 gallon drum of lube off Amazon because your ass is gonna' need it.
 
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22. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 22:53 Cutter
 
NicklePop wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 21:24:
I'm Republican-ish: definitely opposed.

Understand the argument for it though, which is basically "get out of our face government" and allow the free market (which is proven since 1300) to create innovation and wealth for the entire population.

Some thing will rise and kill price gauging by offering a cheaper alternative.

I guess I semi-agree with it LOL

See, this is the problem with you guys. You live in some fantasy world where there's a "free" market that works. There's never been a free market. It always, always, always, ends up with the wealth and power concentrated in the hands of a few. Unless there are regulations - laws/rules - to prevent that. That's just human nature. Laizez-faire capitalism doesn't work any better than communism in practice. Sure, it's great as a theory but that's the only place it's great and it works. Pai and the GOP say nothing will change with the removal of NN, if that's the case why remove the protections in the first place? It shouldn't matter one way or another according to them. When you're getting just raped on your internet very shortly from now please let us know how the "free" market is working out for you. Oh wait, I know, then the GOP will just blame it on the Dems and you guys will just agree with them as per usual because you're incapable of critical thinking.
 
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21. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 22:45 Cutter
 
greatgooglymunga wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 20:21:
empty rhetorical critique is rather empty.
>If you had half a brain it'd die of loneliness
as you already know, you're not much for insults.
but please ignore that voice inside your head- keep flailing.

Right, and let us know when you finish grade school an master basic grammar. And another idiot goes on ignore.

 
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20. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 22:02 Mr. Tact
 
NicklePop wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 21:24:
I'm Republican-ish: definitely opposed.

Understand the argument for it though, which is basically "get out of our face government" and allow the free market (which is proven since 1300) to create innovation and wealth for the entire population.

Some thing will rise and kill price gauging by offering a cheaper alternative.

I guess I semi-agree with it LOL
The argument is not complete nonsense. However, it assumes free market forces are applicable. Unfortunately, the reality is a large portion of the marketplace is either a monopoly or a duopoly. This is the case even in many urban areas. I live in a city of 100+k and the number of choices I have for broadband is exactly one. Now, there are parts of the city which actually have more than one choice. But my house just happens to be located where 1) the local fiber project hasn't reached yet, and 2) is too far from the Central Office for AT&T's DSL to work. Hence I am forced to use Comcast. And of course, we have already seen these competitors do less than scrupulous things. It is how this pretty much got started to begin with a couple of years ago.

If we were to force the ISPs to open their networks to other service providers like was done with the phone companies -- then the kind of "cheaper alternative"s you propose might actually occur. Before that happens, they won't.
 
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19. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 22:01 Creston
 
NicklePop wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 21:24:
allow the free market (which is proven since 1300) to create innovation and wealth for the entire population.

Except, by and large, it has pretty much stopped doing that since the 80s. You know, wages having stagnated, the poor getting poorer, the middle class systematically being wiped out and the rich just getting astronomically richer. Fortunately they are now getting another huge tax break, because they had it really rough.

I mean, sure, some people make huge breakthroughs, and good for them. But this belief that trickle down economics makes everyone's life better is a FUCKING LIE, and FUCK the current GOP for shoving it up everyone's ass again.

Some thing will rise and kill price gauging by offering a cheaper alternative.

Except, of course, that nothing CAN rise to offer a cheaper alternative, because our wonderful ISPs lobbied against Last-Mile-Unbundling which would have actually made it possible for cheaper ISPs to come along, and it's absurdly cost-prohibitive to build out completely new infrastructure.

Couple that with the fact that the ISPs refuse to compete against one another, and are in fact working to just become one giant corporation that controls everything, AND that many states have FUCKING LAWS in place to prohibit towns and municipalities from providing internet service themselves, all because our whore senators and congressmen allows themselves to be bribed for a fucking lollypop and an AT&T coffee mug, and I think you may begin to see that the "Free market" in the US internet sphere is an illusion and will NOT, in fact, come to anyone's rescue, no matter how much that fucking chunk of asscancer, Ajit Pai, says it will.

I guess I semi-agree with it LOL

I hope you'll still find it so funny when your ISP of No-Choice slows your access to something you find interesting to a fucking crawl, unless you buy another "website pass" for xx amount of dollars per month.
 
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18. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 21:47 Mr. Tact
 
greatgooglymunga wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 19:51:
... various trollish nonsense
Ajit, is that you?
 
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17. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 21:29 Beamer
 
This isn't reddit. Learn to use the syntax or stop bothering.  
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16. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 21:24 NicklePop
 
I'm Republican-ish: definitely opposed.

Understand the argument for it though, which is basically "get out of our face government" and allow the free market (which is proven since 1300) to create innovation and wealth for the entire population.

Some thing will rise and kill price gauging by offering a cheaper alternative.

I guess I semi-agree with it LOL
 
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15. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 21:15 RedEye9
 
jdreyer wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 20:46:
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 18:16:
And the vote went down party lines, whodathunkit

Interestingly, not even Repubs wanted this. WaPo had a story a couple of days ago that even 75% of Republicans were opposed.
Great, I am sure they will stop it with all their might.
/s



Still waiting.
 
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14. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 21:06 RedEye9
 
greatgooglymunga wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 20:37:
more derp
So you come to a gaming site and your first posts are clueless quips about how we are not bright enough to post about politics.
1. Either you are not familiar with irony, or
2. You're the reincarnation of Captain Space Harlock ventry.
Either way your trolling is poor and I doubt you could do better. sad
 
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13. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 20:54 ventry
 
Game....Set and Match, greatgooglymunga.

AAANNNDD the LOLZ keep coming.
 
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12. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 14, 2017, 20:46 jdreyer
 
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 14, 2017, 18:16:
And the vote went down party lines, whodathunkit

Interestingly, not even Repubs wanted this. WaPo had a story a couple of days ago that even 75% of Republicans were opposed.
 
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