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It's Thursday, so I'll remind participants in our football pools to get their
picks in, and use that as an excuse for a lengthy sports rant (apologies in
advance). As a lifelong fan
of the New York Giants, I've had many occasions to be proud of the organization
and how they handle things. This is not to say they've been perfect, but they
have generally been a classy outfit, which is often referred to as the "Giant
Way." But some are saying
The ‘Giant Way’ is a thing of the past, thanks to co-owner John Mara. This
comes to a head based on the news that they are benching QB Eli
Manning, which has me beyond upset. Like the organization, Eli hasn't always been perfect, but he has
been a credit to the team since he arrived, and his two Super Bowl MVP awards speak for
themselves (in case they don't, only four other players have been SB MVP more
than once). He's also the reigning NFL iron man whose streak of consecutive
starts is 10th in NFL history, and second only to Brett Favre among
quarterbacks. He's been classy, clutch, and clean for his entire career, and
taking him out to take a look at the other QBs on the roster incorrectly implies
their bad season (the team is currently 2-9) is somehow on him (the blame for
that is on a disappointing defense and
one of the league's worst offensive lines, which is largely unchanged from
last season). And if the plan is to move on from Eli next season, when he will
be 37 years old (which is real-life young but makes him a football geriatric),
he deserves to go out on the field, not on the bench.
The team wants to evaluate
its future QB options, and as further demonstration of his classiness, Eli was given the opportunity
to start and keep the streak alive before giving way to the backups, but he
declined, since that is cheesy. Here are my predictions on what's to
learn with this experiment: Davis Webb will turn out to be the second coming of Ryan Nassib,
and Geno Smith is going to turn out to be the second coming of Geno Smith (I'm
hoping I'm wrong, and will gladly apologize if I am). The organization is not
one to fire front-office staff midseason, but if they are departing from the
Giant Way I'd much rather they just cut bait on GM
Jerry Reese and Coach Ben McAdoo over their obvious failures and leave Eli in
place for the rest of the year, especially when there are
indications both the GM (who has failed with most of his draft picks) and
the coach (an offensive "genius" who has failed to put 30 points on the board
even once as head coach) will be justifiably fired after the season anyway.
Instead they are making this move under the delusion
that their next franchise QB is on the roster, and the implication that somehow Eli is to blame
for the horrible season the team and its fans have suffered. Okay, I'm done
venting. I'm sure this was not of much interest to most of you, though there was
a single comment in the forums expecting some response from me (popular demand?), so I thank you
for your indulgence. If you do want more ranting on the topic, I can hand you
off to radio host
Mike Francesa, pro quarterback
Philip Rivers, and John Mara's own niece,
Kate Mara.
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Beamer wrote on Dec 1, 2017, 18:40: I put Rodgers and Favre above Starr. The formatting was messed up, but that was you, right? Anyway, whoever said it, I still disagree. Rodgers is probably the best *passer* I've ever seen, but here's a little from Wikipedia about Bart Starr, the only QB in the playoff era to three-peat, who played during a time when QBs called their own plays and the passing game was impeded by the rights of defensive backs to mug receivers all over the field:
Starr was the only quarterback in history to lead a team to five league championships (1961–62, 1965–67), before Tom Brady tied the record during the 2016 season. Starr led his team to victories in two Super Bowls: I and II. As the Packers' head coach, he was less successful, compiling a 52–76–3 (.408) record from 1975 through 1983.
Starr was named the Most Valuable Player of the first two Super Bowls and earned four Pro Bowl selections. He was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame and the Packers Hall of Fame in 1977. He won the league MVP award in 1966.[1]
Starr has the highest postseason passer rating (104.8)[2] of any quarterback in NFL history and a postseason record of 9–1. His career completion percentage of 57.4 was an NFL best when he retired in 1972.[3] Starr also held the Packers' franchise record for games played (196) for 32 years, through the 2003 season.[3] IMO, that final paragraph should be enough to win this debate. |
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