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6. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 28, 2017, 14:37 eRe4s3r
 
From what else rumors around he is also support staff at a website selling the cheat he showcased in the video, so Epic has a far bigger case here than we thought if true. He also counter-filed a DMCA claim, forcing Epic to sue.  
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5. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 28, 2017, 10:17 Beamer
 
I also have to believe that, if the parent said "whoa, I'm sorry, I had no idea, I'll discipline him," Epic would drop the lawsuit. No one wants to sue a 14 year old and his mother.

But the kid went on to make a video admitting he did what Epic alleges he did, then did it again. And the mother sent an email saying that Epic is wrong for a whole bunch of reasons that Epic isn't actually wrong for, and in the email admits what Epic is alleging he did. Again.

In both cases they blame Epic for creating a free game in which people may be tempted to cheat for him giving in to that temptation. There's a complete lack of remorse, and a complete lack of claiming that anything wrong was done. The kid goes as far as to say he only cheated for fun, not to win, and to increase other people's fun, and if they dislike playing with a cheater that isn't his fault or his problem.

So yeah, I don't see Epic backing down. They don't want $150,000, people rarely want the number they're suing for (as they will always ask for the maximum amount), but they do want this kid to stop and acknowledge what he did. Or the mom to stop him and acknowledge what he did. Something that says to cheaters "don't do this, there are consequences." Since the family refuses to admit anything wrong was done, this will keep going. If it goes to court, the family is screwed. That the kid made ANOTHER video bragging about being sued then did exactly what he was being sued for AGAIN won't go over well in court.
 
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4. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 28, 2017, 09:46 Beamer
 
yuastnav wrote on Nov 28, 2017, 09:41:
Beamer wrote on Nov 28, 2017, 07:35:
The Eurogamer article has the best info on it:

It has now come to light that one of the defendants is a 14-year-old who Epic Games sued because the teenager appealed against the developer's DMCA takedown request of a YouTube video revealing how to use cheats. Legally, Epic Games had to either withdraw the DMCA takedown request or file suit against the teen. The developer chose the latter.
"This particular lawsuit arose as a result of the defendant filing a DMCA counterclaim to a takedown notice on a YouTube video that exposed and promoted Fortnite Battle Royale cheats and exploits," said an Epic Games spokesperson in a statement to Eurogamer. "Under these circumstances, the law requires that we file suit or drop the claim.
"Epic is not okay with ongoing cheating or copyright infringement from anyone at any age. As stated previously, we take cheating seriously, and we'll pursue all available options to make sure our games are fun, fair, and competitive for players."

Wait, what? Did I understand that correctly that not only did he cheat in a multiplayer game but he also recorded it, made a video about it and when it was taken down he filed a counterclaim to get it back up again?

Man, I guess cheaters ARE morons.

He also made a follow-up video saying he doesn't tell people how to cheat, but then went on to tell people how he cheated.
 
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3. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 28, 2017, 09:41 yuastnav
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 28, 2017, 07:35:
The Eurogamer article has the best info on it:

It has now come to light that one of the defendants is a 14-year-old who Epic Games sued because the teenager appealed against the developer's DMCA takedown request of a YouTube video revealing how to use cheats. Legally, Epic Games had to either withdraw the DMCA takedown request or file suit against the teen. The developer chose the latter.
"This particular lawsuit arose as a result of the defendant filing a DMCA counterclaim to a takedown notice on a YouTube video that exposed and promoted Fortnite Battle Royale cheats and exploits," said an Epic Games spokesperson in a statement to Eurogamer. "Under these circumstances, the law requires that we file suit or drop the claim.
"Epic is not okay with ongoing cheating or copyright infringement from anyone at any age. As stated previously, we take cheating seriously, and we'll pursue all available options to make sure our games are fun, fair, and competitive for players."

Wait, what? Did I understand that correctly that not only did he cheat in a multiplayer game but he also recorded it, made a video about it and when it was taken down he filed a counterclaim to get it back up again?

Man, I guess cheaters ARE morons.
 
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2. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 28, 2017, 07:35 Beamer
 
The Eurogamer article has the best info on it:

It has now come to light that one of the defendants is a 14-year-old who Epic Games sued because the teenager appealed against the developer's DMCA takedown request of a YouTube video revealing how to use cheats. Legally, Epic Games had to either withdraw the DMCA takedown request or file suit against the teen. The developer chose the latter.
"This particular lawsuit arose as a result of the defendant filing a DMCA counterclaim to a takedown notice on a YouTube video that exposed and promoted Fortnite Battle Royale cheats and exploits," said an Epic Games spokesperson in a statement to Eurogamer. "Under these circumstances, the law requires that we file suit or drop the claim.
"Epic is not okay with ongoing cheating or copyright infringement from anyone at any age. As stated previously, we take cheating seriously, and we'll pursue all available options to make sure our games are fun, fair, and competitive for players."
 
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1. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 28, 2017, 06:48 eRe4s3r
 
My pity for cheaters is zero, so burn his house and sue the mother.  
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