I love games that let you sit back and watch itself play.

The minority are the intelligent. The vast majority like you are half-wits.;-)

Let's throw out a number the sheep's will think ohh it must be good and go buy it , he'll it worked for wow

deqer wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 14:29:

OldDirtyEwok wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 10:33:
WWII for dummies... is basically what this game is. I'm not sure why so many people, including review sites think this game is good.

Because not everyone is like you. In fact, if you dislike things for "dummies", then you are part of the minority.

Agreed. It's taxing to listen or read comments from armchair critics sniveling about something they haven't actually played.

I think the best CoD-Battlefield comparison I could make is the following:

People often say that BF2 was the height of the Battlefield franchise. I could offer many objective reasons why this isn't the case.

People also often say that CoD IV MW was the height of the CoD franchise. In this case I have trouble proving them wrong.

Both of these postulations hinge on the progress the devlopers have made over 10 years. In CoD's case, it feels like CoD WWII is getting closer to the original CoD formula, while BF games are closer to the original vision of what DICE wanted to achieve with their game, although the engine at the time could never support it.

Maybe it's just me, but one franchise seems to be genuinely looking towards the future, and the other is firmly stuck chasing the past. Seems like the biggest difference to me, and probably why I don't really care for CoD even if I enjoy a good 6v6 infantry romp.

OldDirtyEwok wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 10:33:
WWII for dummies... is basically what this game is. I'm not sure why so many people, including review sites think this game is good.

Because not everyone is like you. In fact, if you dislike things for "dummies", then you are part of the minority.

Slick wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 12:35:

Beamer wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 11:57:

Slick wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 10:40:
Someone please find me a youtube clip of the multiplayer running animations. The characters just kind of float 2 inches above the ground doing some wacky 1920's chorus line dance thing that's hard to describe but absolutely immersion-breaking anytime I see a stream...

Fuck CoD.

They've had too many chances, and they keep coming back to their shit-ass Q3A-derived engine from 1999. Another half a billion dollars in a week eh? Think they can put 50 of that towards developing an engine that could compete with Frostbite? NAHHHHHHHH.

Didn't you say in another thread all of your judgments were based on the beta, and someone else clarified that the graphics and animations had improved significantly since then?

This is why companies loathe public betas.

As for other complaints, I don't get why people compare this to Battlefield. They're different games. I had a blast with the first three MW games, but have hated every Battlefield game I've played. MW games are running around killing people face to face in small squads, with small battlefields, getting fun toys unlocked for doing well. Battlefield is huge battlefields with tons of people and spending a lot of time getting sniped from god knows where, waiting for a vehicle to spawn, or running around trying to figure out where people are. Yes, you'll say I'm focusing on outdated negatives of the game, but there's no real reason to compare the two. They don't direct compete anymore because they're very different games with very different players.

Actually I didn't compare CoD to Battlefield in this thread (although I often do elsewhere). I was comparing CoD's shit ass Q3A-derived engine to Frostbite.

Also, as I stated above, and mentioned in another thread, I've been watching CoD streams, mostly on Twitch. And the ridiculous animations are still there. I feel like there should be Benny Hill - Yakity Sax playing in the background watching these WWII soldiers dancing around the 100ft x 100ft sized map.

Sorry, I meant other complaints as in complaints in this thread, not from you. It wasn't really clear from my post.

Jagacademy wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 11:34:
I bought this, but ended up refunding it.

Was enjoying the single player, then ran into a quicktime event. Seriously?! (and then to add insult to injury, after asking me to mash "A" as rapidly as possible, then "B" as rapidly as possible, it then asked me to mash "Unbound" as rapidly as possible, so I died)

Multiplayer hit detection is awful as well, one game plays perfectly fine, the next game you can load entire clips into people's backs and they turn around and instagib you.

Now awaiting Battlefront 2, but my expectations are low. This past couple month's AAA releases have all been trash, thank god the indie development scene gives you options.

Battlefront 2 is out in EA "early" Access right now, aside from the really nice looking Star Wars visuals the game itself doesn't interest me.

Some new information, apparently no cheat protection on PC and of course no server browser. I don't think they did anything regarding "playing together with a friend in your squad". Everyone gets the same amount of battle points regardless of how well you played, bonus progression is tied to completing objectives.

As for CoD, looks like they can continue to recycle this engine for another 10 years.

Beamer wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 11:57:

Slick wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 10:40:
Someone please find me a youtube clip of the multiplayer running animations. The characters just kind of float 2 inches above the ground doing some wacky 1920's chorus line dance thing that's hard to describe but absolutely immersion-breaking anytime I see a stream...

Fuck CoD.

They've had too many chances, and they keep coming back to their shit-ass Q3A-derived engine from 1999. Another half a billion dollars in a week eh? Think they can put 50 of that towards developing an engine that could compete with Frostbite? NAHHHHHHHH.

Didn't you say in another thread all of your judgments were based on the beta, and someone else clarified that the graphics and animations had improved significantly since then?

This is why companies loathe public betas.

As for other complaints, I don't get why people compare this to Battlefield. They're different games. I had a blast with the first three MW games, but have hated every Battlefield game I've played. MW games are running around killing people face to face in small squads, with small battlefields, getting fun toys unlocked for doing well. Battlefield is huge battlefields with tons of people and spending a lot of time getting sniped from god knows where, waiting for a vehicle to spawn, or running around trying to figure out where people are. Yes, you'll say I'm focusing on outdated negatives of the game, but there's no real reason to compare the two. They don't direct compete anymore because they're very different games with very different players.

Actually I didn't compare CoD to Battlefield in this thread (although I often do elsewhere). I was comparing CoD's shit ass Q3A-derived engine to Frostbite.

Also, as I stated above, and mentioned in another thread, I've been watching CoD streams, mostly on Twitch. And the ridiculous animations are still there. I feel like there should be Benny Hill - Yakity Sax playing in the background watching these WWII soldiers dancing around the 100ft x 100ft sized map.

If nothing else that new social space looks pretty sweet and well-done, but they treat PC gamers like second-hand garbage. These ports are just awful.

Jagacademy wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 11:34:
(and then to add insult to injury, after asking me to mash "A" as rapidly as possible, then "B" as rapidly as possible, it then asked me to mash "Unbound" as rapidly as possible, so I died)

New and exciting gameplay modes

Slick wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 10:40:
Someone please find me a youtube clip of the multiplayer running animations. The characters just kind of float 2 inches above the ground doing some wacky 1920's chorus line dance thing that's hard to describe but absolutely immersion-breaking anytime I see a stream...

Fuck CoD.

They've had too many chances, and they keep coming back to their shit-ass Q3A-derived engine from 1999. Another half a billion dollars in a week eh? Think they can put 50 of that towards developing an engine that could compete with Frostbite? NAHHHHHHHH.

Didn't you say in another thread all of your judgments were based on the beta, and someone else clarified that the graphics and animations had improved significantly since then?

This is why companies loathe public betas.

As for other complaints, I don't get why people compare this to Battlefield. They're different games. I had a blast with the first three MW games, but have hated every Battlefield game I've played. MW games are running around killing people face to face in small squads, with small battlefields, getting fun toys unlocked for doing well. Battlefield is huge battlefields with tons of people and spending a lot of time getting sniped from god knows where, waiting for a vehicle to spawn, or running around trying to figure out where people are. Yes, you'll say I'm focusing on outdated negatives of the game, but there's no real reason to compare the two. They don't direct compete anymore because they're very different games with very different players.

OldDirtyEwok wrote on Nov 8, 2017, 10:33:
WWII for dummies... is basically what this game is. I'm not sure why so many people, including review sites think this game is good.

I think because it's "less bad" than its recent predecessors?

Also, because IT'S WW II!!!11 and for some reason people hold that theme in a special place in their hearts.

I bought this, but ended up refunding it.

Was enjoying the single player, then ran into a quicktime event. Seriously?! (and then to add insult to injury, after asking me to mash "A" as rapidly as possible, then "B" as rapidly as possible, it then asked me to mash "Unbound" as rapidly as possible, so I died)

Multiplayer hit detection is awful as well, one game plays perfectly fine, the next game you can load entire clips into people's backs and they turn around and instagib you.

Now awaiting Battlefront 2, but my expectations are low. This past couple month's AAA releases have all been trash, thank god the indie development scene gives you options.

Someone please find me a youtube clip of the multiplayer running animations. The characters just kind of float 2 inches above the ground doing some wacky 1920's chorus line dance thing that's hard to describe but absolutely immersion-breaking anytime I see a stream...

Fuck CoD.

They've had too many chances, and they keep coming back to their shit-ass Q3A-derived engine from 1999. Another half a billion dollars in a week eh? Think they can put 50 of that towards developing an engine that could compete with Frostbite? NAHHHHHHHH.

Every time I see a WW2 COD I get super excited, then the game comes out and I realize what a piece of shit the gameplay is.

WWII for dummies... is basically what this game is. I'm not sure why so many people, including review sites think this game is good.