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Out of the Blue

I've been suffering with a bit of a backache, something I used to get more commonly, but I can't recall the last time I had one, it's been that long. For me they'd usually start at their worst and gradually get better, but this one started out pretty mild before getting worse. It peaked yesterday, and I was coincidentally at the doctor's office to get my flu shot, so I warned them I'd be back if this didn't get better. I don't think I'll have to make good on this threat as I feel much better today. For years I've thought my Herman Miller Aeron chair has been keeping my back pain away, so now I'm wondering if the little wobble it's had since I unsuccessfully tried to replace its gas canister is at fault. Guess I won't worry too much about the cause and effect as long as it stays away once it ends.

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20. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 26, 2017, 00:41 heropsycho
 
Cutter wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 18:39:
Standing doesn't help, in fact there are good arguments that against using those desks. Moving, walking, etc. etc. on the other hand is very good. We're designed for sitting around and doing stuff and moving around and doing stuff, standing around not so much.

The only thing I can tell you is my back pain turned on a dime as soon as I went to a standing desk. I added the treadmill months later.
 
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19. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 20:43 jdreyer
 
RedEye9 wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 19:56:
He said he never had the surgery and was basically cured after 3 months of *massage / exercise.


Sounds like he got the massage with the happy ending.

 
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18. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 19:56 RedEye9
 
heropsycho wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 18:08:
Blue, have you considered moving to a standing desk? I have two bad disks in my neck that it was all but guaranteed I'd need surgery. I bought a standing desk, and it's been about 4 years since my prognosis of requiring surgery with none necessary.

I even added a treadmill underneath my standing desk to get my exercising in while I work. It's been life changing.
That is great news, anything beats surgery.
A decent doctor should tell a perspective back surgery patient to undergo a year of alternative* therapy before going under the knife.
A co-worker needed back surgery for years. The last time I spoke with him he looked good and I asked about the surgery. He said he never had the surgery and was basically cured after 3 months of *massage / exercise.

Note that I am not saying this is the fix for everyone. But since a lot of back surgeries have a recovery/rehab period of at least 1 year, what have you got to lose (especially if it is doctor recommended)
 
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17. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 18:47 jdreyer
 
Cutter wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 18:39:
heropsycho wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 18:08:
Blue, have you considered moving to a standing desk? I have two bad disks in my neck that it was all but guaranteed I'd need surgery. I bought a standing desk, and it's been about 4 years since my prognosis of requiring surgery with none necessary.

I even added a treadmill underneath my standing desk to get my exercising in while I work. It's been life changing.

Standing doesn't help, in fact there are good arguments that against using those desks. Moving, walking, etc. etc. on the other hand is very good. We're designed for sitting around and doing stuff and moving around and doing stuff, standing around not so much.
I think "evolved" is the word you want. Using "designed" makes you sound like one of those intelligent design advocates.
 
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16. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 18:45 jdreyer
 
Grocery shoppers buy more food when the music is slower

I feel this has been known for decades.
 
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15. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 18:39 Cutter
 
heropsycho wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 18:08:
Blue, have you considered moving to a standing desk? I have two bad disks in my neck that it was all but guaranteed I'd need surgery. I bought a standing desk, and it's been about 4 years since my prognosis of requiring surgery with none necessary.

I even added a treadmill underneath my standing desk to get my exercising in while I work. It's been life changing.

Standing doesn't help, in fact there are good arguments that against using those desks. Moving, walking, etc. etc. on the other hand is very good. We're designed for sitting around and doing stuff and moving around and doing stuff, standing around not so much.
 
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14. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 18:36 jdreyer
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 17:13:
Eli Vance just died.
Or Benson, if you prefer.

We'd already lost Dr. Breen...

And we'd already lost Shepherd Book.
 
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13. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 18:08 heropsycho
 
Blue, have you considered moving to a standing desk? I have two bad disks in my neck that it was all but guaranteed I'd need surgery. I bought a standing desk, and it's been about 4 years since my prognosis of requiring surgery with none necessary.

I even added a treadmill underneath my standing desk to get my exercising in while I work. It's been life changing.
 
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12. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 17:26 RedEye9
 

My first clown face was by accident.
 
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11. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 17:21 Beamer
 
NKD wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 17:18:
Beamer wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 17:13:
Eli Vance just died.
Or Benson, if you prefer.

We'd already lost Dr. Breen...

As long as Gordon Freeman's VA doesn't die there is still hope.

Iced tea almost came out my nose.
 
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10. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 17:18 NKD
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 17:13:
Eli Vance just died.
Or Benson, if you prefer.

We'd already lost Dr. Breen...

As long as Gordon Freeman's VA doesn't die there is still hope.
 
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9. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 17:13 Beamer
 
Eli Vance just died.
Or Benson, if you prefer.

We'd already lost Dr. Breen...
 
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8. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 16:48 Beamer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 16:16:
Beamer wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 12:37:
RedEye9 wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 12:30:
I hope more city's ban e-cigs.

How big can this market possibly be? In NYC, one out of every three shops is a vape shop. On some streets you'll have 4 within 100 yards of each other. Who is buying this junk?

Of course, they're modern headshops, so also selling vaporizers and the like, but again, isn't Amazon likely much cheaper? You can argue maybe the people buying them don't have credit cards, but this is in every neighborhood, even the West Village. Each week a new vape shop is open, making them as plentiful as porn shops used to be in Times Square.

They're eyesores.
I've wondered the same thing, even here in central Illinois in a town of 100k there seems to be too many of them. The only thing I can imagine is the markup is huge. Hence, there can be seemingly too many stores, yet they still make money on even a low volume.

It's a combination of decent markup (often funded by companies looking for more shelf space) and extremely low start up costs.

They're like roaches.
 
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7. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 16:16 Mr. Tact
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 12:37:
RedEye9 wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 12:30:
I hope more city's ban e-cigs.

How big can this market possibly be? In NYC, one out of every three shops is a vape shop. On some streets you'll have 4 within 100 yards of each other. Who is buying this junk?

Of course, they're modern headshops, so also selling vaporizers and the like, but again, isn't Amazon likely much cheaper? You can argue maybe the people buying them don't have credit cards, but this is in every neighborhood, even the West Village. Each week a new vape shop is open, making them as plentiful as porn shops used to be in Times Square.

They're eyesores.
I've wondered the same thing, even here in central Illinois in a town of 100k there seems to be too many of them. The only thing I can imagine is the markup is huge. Hence, there can be seemingly too many stores, yet they still make money on even a low volume.
 
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6. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 15:22 Cutter
 
So you gave him your Arnie impression? 'I'll be back...about my back.' Or Sir Mixalot, Baby Got Back?

 
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5. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 12:42 Verno
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 12:19:
Back pain blows chucks. Hope you feel better soon.

Yeah, I have two Aerons and one of them needs a gas canister replacement, I haven't been able to locate anyone nearby who will do this unfortunately.


I had to basically beat my pneumatic cylinder with a hammer to get it off and that was with WD40 left on overnight. It was really stuck on there and I couldn't get it off with a wrench.

Of course some other guy comes along a few years later with a video on how to do it more easily. I'll try his method next time.
 
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4. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 12:37 Beamer
 
RedEye9 wrote on Oct 24, 2017, 12:30:
I hope more city's ban e-cigs.

How big can this market possibly be? In NYC, one out of every three shops is a vape shop. On some streets you'll have 4 within 100 yards of each other. Who is buying this junk?

Of course, they're modern headshops, so also selling vaporizers and the like, but again, isn't Amazon likely much cheaper? You can argue maybe the people buying them don't have credit cards, but this is in every neighborhood, even the West Village. Each week a new vape shop is open, making them as plentiful as porn shops used to be in Times Square.

They're eyesores.
 
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3. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 12:30 RedEye9
 

I hope more city's ban e-cigs.
 
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2. Re: Banning E-Cigarettes Oct 24, 2017, 12:30 MoreLuckThanSkill
 
Good, fuck those slightly watered down cancer sticks. Just use a patch or something, don't blow your toxic vapor into other peoples' faces.  
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1. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 24, 2017, 12:19 Mr. Tact
 
Back pain blows chucks. Hope you feel better soon.

Yeah, I have two Aerons and one of them needs a gas canister replacement, I haven't been able to locate anyone nearby who will do this unfortunately.

 
Truth is brutal. Prepare for pain.
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