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jdreyer wrote on Oct 16, 2017, 01:01:people have pointed that fact out to cutter MULTIPLE times to no avail.
I do want to clear up something about milk: it naturally contains very little vitamin D with a cup containing less than 1% of RDA.
jdreyer wrote on Oct 16, 2017, 01:02:eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 16, 2017, 00:10:
I have nothing bad to say about this storm, it brings 25°C warm desert air and a nice breeze to my area. Without it, temperature would be 9°C or lower. And it lasts the entire week.
That's because you live 500 miles away from the path of the storm.
NKD wrote on Oct 16, 2017, 00:36:The Half Elf wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 22:38:
We have a bunch of self entitled people who want instant results, instant no pain, who have a small problem and go whine to doctors
This may come as a shock, but many people have pain that can't be addressed by taking Ibuprofen, and will never go away on its own..
NKD wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 21:53:bigspender wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 19:47:There are all kinds of things that help in the early stages of RA. Its a few decades too late for that. There's nothing that regrows and repairs your joints other than having them replaced. If I were to come down with RA today myself, I wouldn't even worry about it with what we know and the treatments available that slow down the progress of the disease to essentially a halt. But once the damage is done, it's done.
You're saying that you'd rather eat poison and then take a treatment, instead of just not eating the poison....
This just blows my mind.
Are people really so hooked on dairy, that they'd rather spend $$$ on toxic drugs that destroy your liver etc, instead of simply swapping out dairy for any one of the thousands of plant-based milks and cheeses?
Not even for a week to see how it goes? I don't like telling anyone how to live, but common man it's your mother *shrugs*
I can't remember if it's in the video I linked, but it's just like Cutter says, once the inflammation stops, your body is able to recover and reverse the joint damage.
I think you misunderstand. I am including dietary changes and what-not that we weren't aware of when my mother was diagnosed.
But regarding inflammation, stage IV rheumatoid arthritis is characterized by the inflammation process ceasing. The affected joints essentially reach a maximum deterioration and you effectively lose the use of them. And no, your body can't recover joint cartilage on its own, regardless of what homeopathic remedy you take. There is simply no physical mechanism by which the body can regenerate that tissue.
I think I've just done a poor job relating how advanced my mother's condition is. As you can imagine, after having a disease like RA for decades you've pretty much run out of novel things to try.
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 16, 2017, 00:10:
I have nothing bad to say about this storm, it brings 25°C warm desert air and a nice breeze to my area. Without it, temperature would be 9°C or lower. And it lasts the entire week.
Cutter wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 22:40:
I don't subscribe to any particular form of "diet", paleo, Atkins, high carb, low carb, no dairy, et al. it's all jive to me. As it pertains to dairy it's actually beneficial - and necessary - to those of Indo-European descent, that is to say anyone who didn't evolve along the sunbelt. That's because our ancestors were covered up most of the year and had long, hard winters where you were pretty much indoors most of the time. Dairy was the major source of protein - we didn't eat a lot of meat - and vitamin D in particular. It was easy to convert into cheese and butter. So there are strong arguments for it.
However I do agree that the lion share of out diet should be plant based with fruits and grains/nuts/seeds. That's how we evolved for the most part. Genetics makes all the difference however. What may cause inflammation for you might be beneficial for someone else. You need to experiment and see what works. For me I'm super sensitive to sodium so I'm all about DASH.
This is a really good cookbook - Meals That Heal Inflammation with a ton of good info.
The Half Elf wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 22:38:
We have a bunch of self entitled people who want instant results, instant no pain, who have a small problem and go whine to doctors
jdreyer wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 15:28:Your second edit is what scares me the most. I was recently in the ER with some miserable pain. I got a shot of a pain med (forgot the name, started with a t) that did absolutely nothing. Next up was morphine, 15 minutes later and I could have walked home.RedEye9 wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 14:36:
Congress has not done anything to stop gun deaths, why should the opioid crisis be any different.
Cuz drugs, man! DRUGS!
Oh, wait. This is a white drug problem, so you're right. They'll do nothing.
EDIT: Okay, after reading the story, it's the same reason we can't have reasonable gun regulation: corporations paid the congress people to not regulate opioids. Yet another problem that would be much better if corporations weren't allowed to fund politician campaigns.
EDIT 2: The last thing I'll say (promise!) is that pain management is a serious issue, and not enough people are getting the pain meds that they need. So the real problem is 1) how to prevent recreational users from getting them and 2) how to get suffering people the drugs since doctors are now too shy about prescribing them.
jdreyer wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 15:28:RedEye9 wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 14:36:
Congress has not done anything to stop gun deaths, why should the opioid crisis be any different.
Cuz drugs, man! DRUGS!
Oh, wait. This is a white drug problem, so you're right. They'll do nothing.
EDIT: Okay, after reading the story, it's the same reason we can't have reasonable gun regulation: corporations paid the congress people to not regulate opioids. Yet another problem that would be much better if corporations weren't allowed to fund politician campaigns.
EDIT 2: The last thing I'll say (promise!) is that pain management is a serious issue, and not enough people are getting the pain meds that they need. So the real problem is 1) how to prevent recreational users from getting them and 2) how to get suffering people the drugs since doctors are now too shy about prescribing them.
bigspender wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 19:47:There are all kinds of things that help in the early stages of RA. Its a few decades too late for that. There's nothing that regrows and repairs your joints other than having them replaced. If I were to come down with RA today myself, I wouldn't even worry about it with what we know and the treatments available that slow down the progress of the disease to essentially a halt. But once the damage is done, it's done.
You're saying that you'd rather eat poison and then take a treatment, instead of just not eating the poison....
This just blows my mind.
Are people really so hooked on dairy, that they'd rather spend $$$ on toxic drugs that destroy your liver etc, instead of simply swapping out dairy for any one of the thousands of plant-based milks and cheeses?
Not even for a week to see how it goes? I don't like telling anyone how to live, but common man it's your mother *shrugs*
I can't remember if it's in the video I linked, but it's just like Cutter says, once the inflammation stops, your body is able to recover and reverse the joint damage.
NKD wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 18:59:bigspender wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 17:52:NKD wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 17:05:
My mother is a rheumatoid arthritis sufferer, and has been since she was in her early 20s. At her current age, the RA has done basically all the damage it can do to her joints, and the only avenues left are pain management and joint replacements. She's been on oxycodone for a long, long time. She takes a lot, but she hasn't upped her dose in years.
Every few months she calls me with some new horror story about how junkies are making it harder for her to get her prescriptions filled, or some new hoop she has to jump through. It took her YEARS to get in with a different primary care doctor (she hated her then-current one because he was a prick) because almost none of them were comfortable taking on a patient who needed a lot of opioid pain meds.
Granted, she is an outlier. Most people get RA later in life and kick it from old age long before they suffer as much damage as she has. She's still got quite a few years left, hopefully, and the oxycodone is the only thing that keeps her functioning.
My point is, junkies gonna junk. Don't ruin things for people who have legitimate pain management needs just to try and stick it to big pharma. There are very few options for severe chronic pain, and all of them are abusable by junkies. Doctors should not be made to feel they are risking their license or that they are going to get in trouble for correctly handling someones legitimate pain needs.
Hey dude, I was reading about RA recently, and it seems like most people are able to completely eliminate the symptoms by eliminating a couple of ingredients from their diet (it's not 'cured' but the pain and joint destruction goes away, so there is no need for drugs).
I know it sounds like homeopathy, but it's very well documented in a good medical journals. It might be worth asking your mother to try it for a week, as it seems to improve that fast :-) (obviously in conjunction with her doctor)
Check this out: https://youtu.be/pAxygdQbY34
There are all kinds of things that help in the early stages of RA. Its a few decades too late for that. There's nothing that regrows and repairs your joints other than having them replaced. If I were to come down with RA today myself, I wouldn't even worry about it with what we know and the treatments available that slow down the progress of the disease to essentially a halt. But once the damage is done, it's done.
bigspender wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 17:52:NKD wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 17:05:
My mother is a rheumatoid arthritis sufferer, and has been since she was in her early 20s. At her current age, the RA has done basically all the damage it can do to her joints, and the only avenues left are pain management and joint replacements. She's been on oxycodone for a long, long time. She takes a lot, but she hasn't upped her dose in years.
Every few months she calls me with some new horror story about how junkies are making it harder for her to get her prescriptions filled, or some new hoop she has to jump through. It took her YEARS to get in with a different primary care doctor (she hated her then-current one because he was a prick) because almost none of them were comfortable taking on a patient who needed a lot of opioid pain meds.
Granted, she is an outlier. Most people get RA later in life and kick it from old age long before they suffer as much damage as she has. She's still got quite a few years left, hopefully, and the oxycodone is the only thing that keeps her functioning.
My point is, junkies gonna junk. Don't ruin things for people who have legitimate pain management needs just to try and stick it to big pharma. There are very few options for severe chronic pain, and all of them are abusable by junkies. Doctors should not be made to feel they are risking their license or that they are going to get in trouble for correctly handling someones legitimate pain needs.
Hey dude, I was reading about RA recently, and it seems like most people are able to completely eliminate the symptoms by eliminating a couple of ingredients from their diet (it's not 'cured' but the pain and joint destruction goes away, so there is no need for drugs).
I know it sounds like homeopathy, but it's very well documented in a good medical journals. It might be worth asking your mother to try it for a week, as it seems to improve that fast :-) (obviously in conjunction with her doctor)
Check this out: https://youtu.be/pAxygdQbY34
NKD wrote on Oct 15, 2017, 17:05:
My mother is a rheumatoid arthritis sufferer, and has been since she was in her early 20s. At her current age, the RA has done basically all the damage it can do to her joints, and the only avenues left are pain management and joint replacements. She's been on oxycodone for a long, long time. She takes a lot, but she hasn't upped her dose in years.
Every few months she calls me with some new horror story about how junkies are making it harder for her to get her prescriptions filled, or some new hoop she has to jump through. It took her YEARS to get in with a different primary care doctor (she hated her then-current one because he was a prick) because almost none of them were comfortable taking on a patient who needed a lot of opioid pain meds.
Granted, she is an outlier. Most people get RA later in life and kick it from old age long before they suffer as much damage as she has. She's still got quite a few years left, hopefully, and the oxycodone is the only thing that keeps her functioning.
My point is, junkies gonna junk. Don't ruin things for people who have legitimate pain management needs just to try and stick it to big pharma. There are very few options for severe chronic pain, and all of them are abusable by junkies. Doctors should not be made to feel they are risking their license or that they are going to get in trouble for correctly handling someones legitimate pain needs.