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Intel's "Best Gaming Processor Ever"

Intel officially unveils their 8th generation Core processor family, saying the new Intel Core i7-8700K will be their "best gaming processor ever" as if this is not something we should expect. "Our 8th Gen Intel Core desktop processors deliver tremendous improvements across the board," explains Anand Srivatsa, general manager of the Desktop Platform Group at Intel. "And – for gamers, in particular– offer an unbeatable experience." Here are more details on the new CPUs, which should be available starting October 5th:

Powerful, Fluid and Vivid Gaming
Gamers will revel in the powerful and fluid experience of gaming. Compared with 7th Gen Intel Core, gamers gain up to 25 percent more frames per second3 on popular and demanding games like Gears of War* 4. As gaming continues to expand to include a social audience while playing, performance while mega-tasking is critical so game + stream + record is now up to 2 times faster5 compared with a 3-year-old machine.

Advanced Content Creation
Save time and create more. The 8th Gen Intel Core desktop processor family positions Intel as the choice for speed, accuracy, power, format compatibility, and high-quality graphics creation and consumption. Edit 4K 360-degree videos with ease – up to 32 percent faster6 compared with the previous generation – plus, edit content up to 65 percent faster4 compared with a 3-year-old PC.

Better Overclocking1
Performance matters with overclocking. The 8th Gen Intel Core unlocked1 “K” processors will overclock to higher levels than prior generations. Intel has added new features to enhance the experience, including per core overclocking, max memory ratio up to 8,400 MT/s, real-time memory latency control, extended PLL trim controls, enhanced package power delivery, and updated Intel® Extreme Tuning Utility and Intel® Extreme Memory Profile.

Enhanced Platform
For the platform, the new Intel Z370 chipset provides improved power delivery needed for the new 6-core processors to reach their maximum performance as well as enhanced package power delivery for overclocking and memory routing support. More than 50 new motherboard and system designs will be available from a variety of leading providers.

Launch games and load media projects faster. Add Intel® Optane™ memory to desktop computer with an 8th Gen Intel Core processor to gain additional accelerated system responsiveness, up to 2.1 times faster7 compared with a 5-year-old desktop with HDD alone.

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51. Re: Intel's Oct 1, 2017, 21:32 Ant
 
/me looks at his old Intel i7 950 CPU (quad-core) from 12/20/2010 that still works for very old gaming and current non-gaming stuff.  
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50. Re: Intel's Sep 26, 2017, 19:55 Mr. Tact
 
wtf_man wrote on Sep 25, 2017, 13:52:
Still on a 3570K, too. GTX 680 still working pretty good too.
Yep, I'm still rocking a i7-3770 and a Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti here. I considered upgrading just before PC builders were dropping Win7, but never pulled the trigger. I probably should have done that, *meh* whatever, such is life.
 
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49. Re: Intel's Sep 26, 2017, 18:34 Creston
 
Wetworks wrote on Sep 26, 2017, 16:32:
If your only into gaming or need the best gaming performance then 8700k is the best option. It'll perform better than the 7700K in games and will be somewhere around the 1700 for productivity.

Right, but I'm fed up with Intel's bullshit, and the birdshit they use as TIM so they can save themselves 20 cents per processor and force people to replace worn out processors faster, so I'm definitely going AMD.

Thanks for the tips on the 1700/1600.


 
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48. Re: Intel's Sep 26, 2017, 17:18 Muscular Beaver
 
theglaze wrote on Sep 26, 2017, 03:05:
Wetworks wrote on Sep 25, 2017, 21:31:
especially with newer games taking advantage of more cores and threads

I've been hearing that since they introduced quads, and the fact is still only a minority of titles even make use of 4 cores.

And for a minority of streamers broadcasting the latest whatever, I bet a 8700k is dope!
2 more cores wont be that much better for streamers.
8-10 needed there. Or even more, if you can afford it.
 
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47. Re: Intel's Sep 26, 2017, 16:32 Wetworks
 
Creston wrote on Sep 26, 2017, 11:48:
Anyone have any opinions on what the golden spot is for Ryzen? 1700s? 1700Xs?

There is no difference between the 1700 and 1700X, the X comes factory overclocked and has no cooler. The 1700 is at stock speeds but includes a decent cooler so you can oc yourself.

The general consensus is the 1600 for budget or gaming only buyers who don't mind overclocking themselves. The 1700 for those who have a mix of production and gaming needs.

If your only into gaming or need the best gaming performance then 8700k is the best option. It'll perform better than the 7700K in games and will be somewhere around the 1700 for productivity.

If your a high res gamer, 4k gaming than Ryzen for gaming is also a decent option, because you'll be gpu bound not cpu bound at those resolutions. The main benefit of going Ryzen is for productivity or budget. If you have the money 8700k is the way to go.
 
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46. Re: Intel's Sep 26, 2017, 11:48 Creston
 
Anyone have any opinions on what the golden spot is for Ryzen? 1700s? 1700Xs?
 
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45. Re: Intel's Sep 26, 2017, 07:49 Nimh
 
And here I am still happily using my 6 core X5675 @ 4.2Ghz. (a bit of a power hog by today's standard, but plenty fast.)  
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44. Re: Intel's Sep 26, 2017, 06:57 Vio
 
Mac wrote on Sep 25, 2017, 13:26:
Still waiting for a reason to upgrade my 2500k ...

Joy of games being developed for out of date consoles - the needs on a PC only increase slowly!
Same boat, I'm think Zen 2 is going to be the one.
 
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43. Re: Intel's Sep 26, 2017, 04:42 Tut tut tut!!!
 
Marketing gimmitry  
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42. Re: Intel's Sep 26, 2017, 03:05 theglaze
 
Wetworks wrote on Sep 25, 2017, 21:31:
especially with newer games taking advantage of more cores and threads

I've been hearing that since they introduced quads, and the fact is still only a minority of titles even make use of 4 cores.

And for a minority of streamers broadcasting the latest whatever, I bet a 8700k is dope!
 
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41. Re: Intel's Sep 25, 2017, 21:31 Wetworks
 
Remember that those with older cpu's it's not just about average or maximum fps. The 8700k will also improve your 1%, .1% and frametimes which are often more important than your average fps. It's also useful for those that want 144fps for their monitors as older cpu's struggle to reach high frame rates.

I'm using a 3570k @ 4.2 and I'm getting the 8700k the second they are released. You can get still get by with old cpu's but make no mistake that there will be a noticeable improvement, especially with newer games taking advantage of more cores and threads. Not to mention the jump from 8gb 1600 ddr3 to 16gb 3200 ddr4.
 
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40. Re: Intel's Sep 25, 2017, 20:16 Quboid
 
Can I get a consistent double-digit framerate in Cities Skylines? That's the biggest reason why I'd upgrade my Intel i7 3750K 3.5Ghz.

Running 100 mods and about 1000 additional assets might have a little bit to do with the performance problems but I'd much rather blame something else
 
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39. Re: Better Overclocking1 Sep 25, 2017, 20:14 NewMaxx
 
Slick wrote on Sep 25, 2017, 18:42:
Well, any game running the Frostbite engine makes great use of >4 cores. In fact the performance dropoff from an i7 to an i5 in the same class is quite noticeable in MP. like 30-40%

Quite true. BF1 was the game that got me to upgrade my 2500K to a 6700K as I was hitting the CPU ceiling with my GTX 1080. In my testing the 6700K @ 4.4 GHz would peak at +50% over my 2500K @ 4.5 GHz, relative to utilization (that is, the 6700K's CPU usage % was about 2/3 of the 2500K's at peak). This was especially true when recording/streaming in x264 which added about 20% absolute usage on the 6700K, a total state that would have been around 125% with the 2500K but was 80%-90% on the 6700K.

Quite frankly I'm already back to hitting my limits when x264 streaming on the 6700K now that I run a 144 Hz monitor, unfortunately Intel has deemed me unworthy of a direct upgrade to a 8700K so I'll have to wait for Zen 2.
 
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38. Re: Morning Tech Bits Sep 25, 2017, 19:28 NicklePop
 
Loving my Ryzen 1800x -- and it's an upgradable socket between generations.

So definitely waiting for Ryzen 2 before any upgrade, and it will be 25% the cost of Intel's offering LOL.

 
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37. Re: Morning Tech Bits Sep 25, 2017, 19:20 Mordecai Walfish
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 25, 2017, 17:44:
Mordecai Walfish wrote on Sep 25, 2017, 17:16:
Still dont see any reason to upgrade my 4790k @ 4.8ghz. GPU would be a better investment for gaming at this point, but the only card I'm looking at is the 1080ti, which still costs too much for the performance gain I would get from it. Probably going to take some new game that utilizes the shit out of these new processors to make me upgrade. Cyberpunk 2077 maybe?

Why would you ever upgrade that now?
I am running the same CPU, and built my system January 2016. Since my monitor is only 1080p (though 16:10), it runs anything I throw at it incredibly well. My system before it lasted 5 years. Towards the end it was, well, Far Cry 4 didn't look so hot. But I'd expect this system to last another 3 years before I think about any changes.

Well, I did start with "Still dont see any reason to upgrade my 4790k", so I would definitely agree with this sentiment =) I built mine in Feb 2016, so our nerd cycles are like almost sync'd man.
 
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36. Re: Intel's Sep 25, 2017, 19:18 eRe4s3r
 
Rhialto wrote on Sep 25, 2017, 18:51:
But the real question is, will I be forced to run Win10? I think so and that suck... while it was still possible to run Win7 on Z270 it could take a while to get all the drivers on Z370 fow Win7. Oh well!

I wonder this too... but I guess when I go 4k with a 1080TI (once the price drops more) this becomes a moot point anyway. Might as well "upgrade" to W10 then, when I need to redo all my OS crap anyway... not looking forward to that with the dozens of licenses I have running on here.
 
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35. Re: Intel's Sep 25, 2017, 19:08 Slick
 
The 2500k doesn't run everything "really well" it just "runs everything". There have been some substantial improvements with CPU performance in high-demand engines over the past 7 years.  
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34. Re: Intel's Sep 25, 2017, 18:51 Rhialto
 
CJ_Parker wrote on Sep 25, 2017, 14:27:
The "problem" here is that the 2500K@4.2GHz still runs everything really well.
2500K @ 4.2 here also as main PC and I'm looking for a new PC and that 2500K to be second PC.

I still can't figure out how much faster I would feel it over my current one. I can read numbers sure but pratically? A few months ago I was undecided between 7600K and 7700K, now I guess it will be either 8600K or 8700K on a ROG STRIX Z370I.

But the real question is, will I be forced to run Win10? I think so and that suck... while it was still possible to run Win7 on Z270 it could take a while to get all the drivers on Z370 fow Win7. Oh well!

I'm sure I will enjoy reading all the reviews around the web in less than 2 weeks though!
 
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33. Re: Better Overclocking1 Sep 25, 2017, 18:42 Slick
 
Well, any game running the Frostbite engine makes great use of >4 cores. In fact the performance dropoff from an i7 to an i5 in the same class is quite noticeable in MP. like 30-40%  
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32. Better Overclocking1 Sep 25, 2017, 18:34 Simon Says
 
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