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Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed

Ars Technica has a statement from Cloud Imperium Games refuting the claim that a consortium had secured a $45,000 refund for Star Citizen. Their side of the story contradicts most of the details from the original report, and the account that posted the refund story has since been deleted. Here's word:
[Update: Cloud Imperium spokesperson Dave Swofford tells Ars that "a lot of the information was fabricated" in the Reddit post discussed the below. Swofford says the account in question was issued an individual refund of $330, not the $45,000 claimed in posted screenshots and videos which Swofford says do not reflect actual complaints requests logged by the company. What's more, Swofford says the refund was handled "in a timely fashion" with "no extended debate over whether we should."
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28. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 19, 2017, 00:24 Mr. Tact
 
Mordecai Walfish wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 02:39:
I want the new South Park season to have an episode about Star Citizen, with a fittingly comedic representation of both Chris Roberts and Derek Smart,
This might actually result in me watching more than two or three minutes of an episode of South Park for the first time ever.
 



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27. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 18, 2017, 22:46 jdreyer
 
Mordecai Walfish wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 02:39:
I want the new South Park season to have an episode about Star Citizen, with a fittingly comedic representation of both Chris Roberts and Derek Smart, an episode about PewDiePie going full-retard racist, and maybe an episode about the unsigned trust that we give to corporations like Equifax who can fuck over millions at any given time by their fly-by-night security. This needs to happen. =) I bet we'll at least see some commentary about some of this stuff in the new South Park game.

OMG, that would be so amazing.
 
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26. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 18, 2017, 18:36 jdreyer
 
Slick wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 23:05:
Everyone knows that Cloud Imperium misled people almost as bad as Hillary Clinton.

#AMIRITEWALT?

Hey, at least Chris Roberts didn't have an email server in his basement.
 
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25. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 15, 2017, 19:12 MoreLuckThanSkill
 
Aww, fish tale(massive exaggeration), oh well.

But more importantly, assuming they keep trucking on and finish the game, how the hell can there ever be a level playing field, if you can spend $15k on ships, vs some random scrub who bought the base game for $30-60? Would you even want to play if you had thousands of dollars of ships unlocked already on day 1? How bad will the grind be to get to the $5,000 ships from zero? etc. etc.

Multiple case studies will need to be done, people will need counseling, people will need secondary jobs to afford their ship habits, divorce lawyers will need to be paid for the financially ruined family break ups...this game will generate its own real world economy.
 
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24. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 15, 2017, 18:00 thecakeisalie
 
NKD wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 00:20:
Star Citizen is the Trump University of gaming.

Zing!
 
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23. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 15, 2017, 10:52 Kxmode
 
El Pit wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 02:32:
Drama, drama... From here on, I will wait for the great final: either "Star Citizen Goes Gold" or "Star Citizen: How The Mighty Have Fallen". Which means: I won't read any article on SC coming out in the next 10 years or so.

Then how will you get your monthly intake of popcorn? Popcorn
 
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22. Re: Origin Access Free This Week Sep 15, 2017, 10:26 Drayth
 
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Just giving a sneak peek at Derek's FUD workshop at play. No idea if they were behind any of this recent one.
 
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21. Re: Origin Access Free This Week Sep 15, 2017, 08:56 RedEye9
 
{PH}88fingers wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 08:53:
Luke wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 04:38:
WaltC wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 20:12:
RedEye9 wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 19:40:
Derek Smart brigade playing evil shenanigans.

Well, that's my opinion

Ya said it........ YOUR opinion..all this sc investment thing is a sexually thing..
Some like to get beaten..some just don't want to see reality ..people are so easy to fool ....sooo easy

SOOO EASY LUKE!! with all that fuckin MaNGa Bullshit them kiddies manga bullshit too easy !!!
You speak Luke well, it is one of the harder dialects to master.
 
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20. Re: Origin Access Free This Week Sep 15, 2017, 08:53 {PH}88fingers
 
Luke wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 04:38:
WaltC wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 20:12:
RedEye9 wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 19:40:
Derek Smart brigade playing evil shenanigans.

Well, that's my opinion

Ya said it........ YOUR opinion..all this sc investment thing is a sexually thing..
Some like to get beaten..some just don't want to see reality ..people are so easy to fool ....sooo easy

SOOO EASY LUKE!! with all that fuckin MaNGa Bullshit them kiddies manga bullshit too easy !!!
 
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19. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 15, 2017, 08:43 Cutter
 
Mordecai Walfish wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 02:39:
I want the new South Park season to have an episode about Star Citizen, with a fittingly comedic representation of both Chris Roberts and Derek Smart, an episode about PewDiePie going full-retard racist, and maybe an episode about the unsigned trust that we give to corporations like Equifax who can fuck over millions at any given time by their fly-by-night security. This needs to happen. =) I bet we'll at least see some commentary about some of this stuff in the new South Park game.

Fuck no. I just want it to get back to its roots of dumb shit and park the politics. It's tiresome, preachy and not fun, and why watch it otherwise in that case? My fac episode is still the Halloween one with Korn arguing about the ghost pirates, or is that pirate ghosts? And the 2 guys explaining, in detail, what necrophilia sounds like.
 
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18. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 15, 2017, 04:38 Luke
 
WaltC wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 20:12:
RedEye9 wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 19:40:
Derek Smart brigade playing evil shenanigans.

Well, that's my opinion

Ya said it........ YOUR opinion..all this sc investment thing is a sexually thing..
Some like to get beaten..some just don't want to see reality ..people are so easy to fool ....sooo easy
 
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17. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 15, 2017, 04:19 VaranDragon
 
Nucas wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 02:17:
NKD wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 00:20:
Star Citizen is the Trump University of gaming.

i think we'll probably get squadron 42, which is really all i care about.

Squadron 42 is like the Trump's Great Wall of Mexico. A lot of bullshit promises in the beginning, while all the actual effort went into other shit
 
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16. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 15, 2017, 02:39 Mordecai Walfish
 
I want the new South Park season to have an episode about Star Citizen, with a fittingly comedic representation of both Chris Roberts and Derek Smart, an episode about PewDiePie going full-retard racist, and maybe an episode about the unsigned trust that we give to corporations like Equifax who can fuck over millions at any given time by their fly-by-night security. This needs to happen. =) I bet we'll at least see some commentary about some of this stuff in the new South Park game.  
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15. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 15, 2017, 02:32 El Pit
 
Drama, drama... From here on, I will wait for the great final: either "Star Citizen Goes Gold" or "Star Citizen: How The Mighty Have Fallen". Which means: I won't read any article on SC coming out in the next 10 years or so.  



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14. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 15, 2017, 02:17 Nucas
 
NKD wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 00:20:
Star Citizen is the Trump University of gaming.

i think we'll probably get squadron 42, which is really all i care about.
 
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13. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 15, 2017, 00:35 Jivaro
 
I am glad I out 35 bucks into this.

This is the most popcorn worthy drama I have ever gotten out of 35 bucks and from what I can tell the game isn't anywhere near release. Talk about bang for your buck!
 
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12. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 15, 2017, 00:20 NKD
 
Star Citizen is the Trump University of gaming.  
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11. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 14, 2017, 23:50 Kosumo
 
WaltC wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 20:12:
RedEye9 wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 19:40:
Derek Smart brigade playing evil shenanigans.

Yep...truly stupid people with nothing better to do than circulate fake news and imbecilic hate. Whew... These disgruntled customers are so amusing...KS customers still think, no matter how many times they are told the opposite, that when they contribute to KS programs they are actually buying *nothing at all.* There's no "pre-order" involved. There are no guarantees, no contracts--putting money in a KS is merely seeding a company and individuals you like/trust with seed money in the hopes they are able to accomplish what they started. With a KS, there are no promises made to anyone. IMO, only fund KS with people with solid reputations who have a lot to lose if their KS fails. I've funded a KS or two--and not been burned by following those recommendations. Quite the contrary, I have been more than pleased by the result.

OTOH, if you want to invest your money with an individual or company you've never heard of, that no one else has heard of, either, then never invest more than you can afford to lose. SC is making refunds and is still very much a going concern, accordingly. When KS's fail, however, usually the principal involved escapes with the money--free and clear and 100% legal, that's true.

Why a few of these SC KS people are so full of angst and hate for SC beats me. SC is a game so ambitious that no publisher anywhere would attempt to underwrite it--because it takes far too long for a publisher's comfort. If and when the game is finished, and if and when it meets the goals it is trying to reach, it is definitely going to be one-of-a-kind, and we can thank not only the developers for it, but also the KS investors who stayed the course. Well, that's my opinion, only, of course...;)

But this is not kickstarter, that's a myth.

This is RSI (Roberts Space Industries) selling pre order DLC to an unfinished game.

I understand how people think this is some kind of kickstarter but its not and Chris Roberts is happy to make that as muddy as possible to make this seem like some good will thing.

It's not, he broke his pledge he made. End of Story, He is a scummy cunt.
 
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10. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 14, 2017, 23:05 Slick
 
Everyone knows that Cloud Imperium misled people almost as bad as Hillary Clinton.

#AMIRITEWALT?
 
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9. Re: Star Citizen Refund Story Disputed Sep 14, 2017, 22:28 Cutter
 
It may have been plausible given the group angle. Hell, what's that one guy in for $15k? Or is it $30k? Something fucking insane and he's not even rich and has a family to support - now there's some kids that need to go into foster care.

 
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