Who exactly are you upset with here?

ItBurn wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 20:30:
Oh no, comments from the internet have made me feel sad. This is the root of all problems on earth and must be eradicated from existence.

Oh no, I had a corrupted savegame and Telltale won't help me! "Done with Telltale."


Guy leaves a gaming community because he's tired of it allowing fucktards and racists and misogynists to use it, in direct violation of said community's standards, and the walking, breathing, shitstains and hypocrites of Bluesnews (a minority) use it as a siren call to come out of their holes to rant and rave about how their tiny little world really is, as they see it. Such tough boys, witty and clever, who never tire of memes like "triggered" and "snowflake", using them as if it's the first time they've been uttered, instead of the millionth time we've heard them. Creativity definitely suffers when you let others do your thinking for you. You speak as if saying something makes it true, but it's just the same moronic shit over and over and over... like regurgitated mantra. "Just words on the internet. What's the big deal? They don't bother ME. Snowflake! Libtard! SJW!" Such bad-asses! It isn't always about you, shitwits. And it's rarely as simple and inane as your pea brains are capable of parsing. Some of you must be very lonely little boys, or very lonely, angry, paranoid, delusional men. I knew of a couple of you, but I didn't realize so many of you were closet Nazis. Or, do you prefer "patriots"? lol Whatever... you can all fuck right off.

Dash wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 02:56:
You mean, way back, before all the current garbage started up, and people didn't pay attention to the characters as long as they were well-written, and not some checkbox in a diversity spreadsheet? Everything nowadays is suspect to agenda, where as before, it was 'whatever'.

"if a character is female it's because a 'diversity checkbox' is getting ticked, because the default setting for a character is male. except for games i grew up playing, they don't count."

come on, do you really not see what you're doing? where is this avalanche of games you're getting buried under being jammed full of 'unnecessary females'? why does there need to be a criteria to justify any character being anything? that's dumb.

i remember when dontnod was pitching Life is Strange, nobody wanted to publish it unless the characters were switched to boys. this is the reality of videogames, not your nightmare dystopia where there are female and minority characters in the videogames that don't deserve to be!!

jdreyer wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 13:38:

Nucas wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 02:26:

i like to imagine what the reaction would be if classic titles like half life 2 or system shock 2 were released today. "good game except for the typical SJW bullshit jammed down our throats, like did one of the main characters need to be a half black half asian female?? get this shit out of my games sjws."

Mind blown. I could totally see that.

Alyx Vance stole the show.

In all honesty, how many video game characters have been well written?

John Marston, absolutely.

Bodolza wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 13:27:

Video games are mainstream now, which means they're subject to mainstream sensibilities. We're never going back to a time when AAA titles are produced by 10 guys.

Well, except for maybe No Man's Sky. But perhaps that's an outlier.

Nucas wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 02:26:

i like to imagine what the reaction would be if classic titles like half life 2 or system shock 2 were released today. "good game except for the typical SJW bullshit jammed down our throats, like did one of the main characters need to be a half black half asian female?? get this shit out of my games sjws."

Mind blown. I could totally see that.

Dash wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 02:56:
You mean, way back, before all the current garbage started up, and people didn't pay attention to the characters as long as they were well-written

Video games are mainstream now, which means they're subject to mainstream sensibilities. We're never going back to a time when AAA titles are produced by 10 guys. It's another mass-media product, and has been for some time, which means it now carries all the baggage of our culture.

You might as well accept that, cause it's not going to ever go back.

Creston wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 22:25:
If Valve doesn't give a shit about hate groups being on their platform, why does this guy think they give a shit about him canceling his account?

They don't give a shit about anything but money. If the hate groups buys games, Valve is perfectly okay with them. Sad story, but there you have it.

Valve gives a shit about being embarrassed, which is why doing this publicly was quickly successful.

Prez wrote on Sep 15, 2017, 02:36:

Beamer wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 22:43:

Just don't get how libertarians and GamerGaters argue this.

GamerGaters? Is that still a thing?

Yes, and their latest thing is defending the use of the n word as "just a word," which is rich for a bunch of people angry 3 years later that someone said they were "over."

These groups have no place on steam, the internet or the world.
No one will host their dreck and they get booted wherever they go.
Maybe there is hope for humanity.

The title of my article would be

Why I didn't delete my Steam account and never looked at the Steam community pages

I find it interesting how some negative posts about valve/steam have everyone shouting "hear hear!" and others have people going "what a crybaby."

I for one wont be deleting my account any time soon but I can see his point. You can be rude anywhere on the internet, this is true. Some places are ruder than others, and a lot of steam has become pretty much on the awful side. And you can't always just avoid it as it is surfaced in the reviews or in comments sections when you are trying to figure out if you should buy a game or not. That hurts the games, hurts steam as a whole, and surfaces the asshole gamers to people who may still be on the edge about how much they want to game at all. Toxic af.

Anyway... it looks like those groups mentioned in the article have been disabled. So the tantrum worked, to an extent.

This is all really dumb.

(no offense meant towards those with speech disabilities differences)

I deleted the real world because there are racist groups out there and nobody seems to intervene.

Dude... GROW UP!

i like to imagine what the reaction would be if classic titles like half life 2 or system shock 2 were released today. "good game except for the typical SJW bullshit jammed down our throats, like did one of the main characters need to be a half black half asian female?? get this shit out of my games sjws."

You mean, way back, before all the current garbage started up, and people didn't pay attention to the characters as long as they were well-written, and not some checkbox in a diversity spreadsheet? Everything nowadays is suspect to agenda, where as before, it was 'whatever'.

Though I think the SS2 protag wasn't really anything, come to think of it. You literally didn't see the character, until someone hacked in a co-op mode, iirc. [I get the basic point... but still. I'm a nerd for that game >.>]


As for christians, I think if they didn't feel persecuted by 'other', then they'd rail against their own. Look how many variations there are, based on something as simple as interpretation.

Beamer wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 22:43:

Just don't get how libertarians and GamerGaters argue this.

GamerGaters? Is that still a thing?

Beamer wrote on Sep 14, 2017, 22:43:
The word literally means inferior black people. You can say it without being racist, but saying it is racist. It's de facto racism.

Just don't get how libertarians and GamerGaters argue this. And, honestly, why does intent matter? If you call a kid the n word on Xbox Live, he doesn't have the ability to dive deep into your psyche and see if you're racist or not, he just knows you're calling him racist things.

they think they're pushing back against encroaching (((progressives))).

it really reminds me of the way american christians fuss like they're being persecuted by gays and atheists and use the pretense to keep "pushing back" with more and more christian sharia law; ban gay marriage, install religious monuments in government buildings, etc.

like, you guys are the majority. don't you get it?

i like to imagine what the reaction would be if classic titles like half life 2 or system shock 2 were released today. "good game except for the typical SJW bullshit jammed down our throats, like did one of the main characters need to be a half black half asian female?? get this shit out of my games sjws."

. Oh, wait. There's a post from a Valve community mod locking the thread and linking to the support page on how to report abusive behavior."

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

General Rule #3
Abuse or encourage abuse of the Post Reporting System

That's why that was closed. Just report it, and move on.

People are going to be knobends, regardless of color or beliefs. The edgelord garbage from the two listed groups? Knobends.

While I don't support or condone their idiocy, they're paying money, just like anyone else. Unless they are outright harassing people with their stupidity, and they keep their toxicity in their own dank, dark little hole, let em.

You can't force them to evolve, and shaming doesn't really work.

1) I agree with most of his points...

2) ...but deleting his account was unnecessary and likely ineffective. He could just as easily just stop buying games from Steam and accomplish the same thing. The money he has already spent is gone. Might as well enjoy what he has.

3) We don't know that Valve doesn't report these groups or people to the FBI. For all we know the FBI lets them exist to track organizations and gather info. Gateway Computers broke a pedophile ring that way. An employee was running websites that sold child porn and even facilitated human trafficking. The FBI wanted this guy, but they wanted as much on him as possible so they could use him to break the whole thing wide open. My understanding is that letting him operate while unknowingly monitored was the difference between busting one guy and saving lives.

4) Now that I have put that positive spin on things I will also say that it's far more likely that Valve is just not interested in doing shit about shit. Never really has been and never really will. I would be beyond shocked if any part of #3 actually turned out to be true in even the smallest way. Valve's complete indifference to pure rubbish that is their forums is legendary at this point.