Monologue: I Am a Successful Streamer and I Believe Racial Slurs Are Essential to Gaming - McSweeney’s Internet Tendency (Satirical).
"Gamers such as myself often come across heated, high-stress gaming moments. Sometimes, I’ll be leaning back in my padded gaming chair playing Call of Duty and a player on the opposing side will shoot me. This is a perfect time to state something racist with impunity. I am angry at being shot by the other player. I of course don’t mean the racist comment in a hateful way. I’m simply using racist language to publicly express my frustration at being killed in a fictional game that doesn’t matter at all. In these moments, gamers should not be held to the standards of a civil society. It’s not like I say racist stuff outside of gaming. Just because I constantly make racist comments on video does not mean I make racist comments off-camera. I am able to stop being racist once the live stream is over."
Slashman wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 18:08:Cutter wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 15:41:
The problem isn't the casual racism it's the SJWs with their massive overreactions to it. Even when people are simply accused of something they lose their shit. Look at that story a few weeks back where that asshole on Twitter who felt it was his personal mission to "out" racists they ended up blaming an innocent man. They were calling his house and making death threats to his wife and kids FFS! And these assholes aren't even a minority! They are just look for reasons to go off and they don't care who gets hurt or how extreme their overreactions are and that makes them way more dangerous and way worse than the so-called bigots and racists they're opposing. Hitch up your fucking panties and stop throwing hissy fits over every little thing - especially when it doesn't even apply to you. Fuck, go end poverty or something actually worthwhile.
You tell em Cutter. Most people these days don't even understand how harmless casual racism is. At least compared to the ultra-hardcore kind.
Hell I didn't even know what the hell casual racism was until you made it clear. And I sure as hell don't know what offends me. I've only been black for like 42 years or so. Totally need a clear-headed white person to sort out my thoughts for me.
But while we're on the subject, you wanna explain to me why the 'casual racists' (especially the ones raking in millions) need defending while the 'more serious racists' need condemning?
Beamer wrote on Sep 13, 2017, 09:16:It's fascinating that studies show that when you use logic and details to refute conspiracy theories, that hardens the listener's belief in said theory.Quboid wrote on Sep 13, 2017, 09:03:
what happened to GamerTics?
This is one of the things I never understand about the "ethics in journalism" people: they trust sites more the smaller they are. Similar to conspiracy theorists, actually - the fewer people that know about something the more accurate it is, to them.
But in media, that's objectively wrong. While size isn't a guarantee, smaller sources are less likely to be accurate and reliable ones. In a large media organization:
* The relationship to the consumer is understood, and they know that losing trust means an end, so the trust of the audience is always in the front of their minds (even if they choose not to listen, it's there)
* The organization is big enough to have an editorial staff and business operations, with little contact needed between
* There's internal accountability. To shareholders, but more to other employees. If someone does something sketchy, everyone sees it. Not only does this make it more likely to be leaked, but it's less likely to happen, as people feel that they'd let their peers down, or they simply feel they're more likely to be caught or called out
* There are resources. Resources to find news, to contact people, and to do some element of investigation, though the resources are usually far too thin to do much of that at all
I mean, compare to a small shop. It's usually run by people with no real knowledge of media and how the consumer views it, it's one to three people running the entire thing and constantly in contact, there's no accountability because everything is somewhat independent - usually not even in the same city, making shadiness easy to hide, and there are absolutely no resources to do much of anything.
Yet, somehow, they're the reliable ones.
Quboid wrote on Sep 13, 2017, 09:03:
what happened to GamerTics?
jdreyer wrote on Sep 13, 2017, 04:32:Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 13, 2017, 03:24:Quboid wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 23:28:
This is what happens when you're the sort of person who gets their information from those race realists at the Daily Stormer.
Seriously. This guy literally used an actual neo-Nazi website's "why we're totally not racist" page as his justification, and they used similar "logic" as we see here. Right there below navigation links like "The Jewish Problem", why anti-racism activists are the real racists.
Sorry, having a problem differentiating between the two. Different sides, same coin except that neo-nazi is actually open instead of hiding everything under the bigotry of low expectations. Getting 50pts knocked off admission to a university because of your race is as much bullshit as being give 250pts for your race to get you into it.
Why aren't those black people pulling themselves up by their bootstraps already?
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 23:00:jdreyer wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 18:51:
Also, SJWs are the real racists, amirite?
At least the "race realist" is going to tell me they're a "race realist." A SJW is too busy telling the black they're too stupid and need special handouts to succeed in society, while talking over them. And telling the asians they're too smart so they need to be penalized. While proclaiming they're really not as bad, but worse then the opposition they claim to oppose.
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 13, 2017, 03:24:Quboid wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 23:28:
This is what happens when you're the sort of person who gets their information from those race realists at the Daily Stormer.
Seriously. This guy literally used an actual neo-Nazi website's "why we're totally not racist" page as his justification, and they used similar "logic" as we see here. Right there below navigation links like "The Jewish Problem", why anti-racism activists are the real racists.
Sorry, having a problem differentiating between the two. Different sides, same coin except that neo-nazi is actually open instead of hiding everything under the bigotry of low expectations. Getting 50pts knocked off admission to a university because of your race is as much bullshit as being give 250pts for your race to get you into it.
Quboid wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 23:28:
This is what happens when you're the sort of person who gets their information from those race realists at the Daily Stormer.
Seriously. This guy literally used an actual neo-Nazi website's "why we're totally not racist" page as his justification, and they used similar "logic" as we see here. Right there below navigation links like "The Jewish Problem", why anti-racism activists are the real racists.
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 23:00:jdreyer wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 18:51:
Also, SJWs are the real racists, amirite?
At least the "race realist" is going to tell me they're a "race realist." A SJW is too busy telling the black they're too stupid and need special handouts to succeed in society, while talking over them. And telling the asians they're too smart so they need to be penalized. While proclaiming they're really not as bad, but worse then the opposition they claim to oppose.
jdreyer wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 18:51:
Also, SJWs are the real racists, amirite?
Mordecai Walfish wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 21:54:
He obviously did something very stupid for someone in his position, but I don't think it's as simple as blanket "racism".
bigspender wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 20:48:Nothing but a Freudian slip.
When I play Chess with my grandma, I call her a filthy whore every time I lose a piece. It's just a heat-of-moment thing. It's her fault if she gets offended. /sarcasm
bigspender wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 20:48:
When I play Chess with my grandma, I call her a filthy whore every time I lose a piece. It's just a heat-of-moment thing. It's her fault if she gets offended. /sarcasm
The Half Elf wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 20:26:Tiger Woods is my hero as are all athletes. /sarcHoSpanky wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 17:27:Quboid wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 14:19:VaranDragon wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 13:40:HoSpanky wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 12:32:
None of you read the article. It's a comedy piece. See that bit there Blue put in (Satire)? You ARE the Facebook crowd, getting bent out of shape because you're too lazy to pay attention.
Or we did read the article and regardless of its satire (or perhaps because of it) it poses interesting questions that maybe should be discussed?
Nearly everyone was talking about PewDiePie, the person being satirised. I think HoSpanky was too lazy to pay attention.
When did I say it wasn't about PDP? Literally every post prior to my first one was about how dumb/wrong the author was, zero of those people read the article before posting, which is Facebook thinking. "I know all I need to from the article title, which I didn't read very clearly". PewDiePie was absolutely the intended "writer" for that article.
Anyway, it's back to the whole Spider-Man catchphrase. People who have a lot of influence really, REALLY need to realize that everything they do can and will be imitated by the kids who adore them. These people need to hold themselves to a higher standard. Fame always comes with that, and these shitheels don't want to change themselves at all despite being role models. I'm lumping professional atheletes in with streamers here, btw. Both behave badly FAR more than they ought to.
HoSpanky I gotta stop you right there and call bullshit. The problem is the entire "well they did it so I did it too!" excuse. And your thinking perpetuates this bullshit notion that people aren't responsible for their choices.
As I said in my first post, EVERYTHING I listed was used as an excuse for problematic behavior (please take in effect the time and how views have changed over the decades from say Radio/Rock n Roll/Elvis to what we have now).
And what about fucktards that are now role models that shouldn't be, like Magic Johnson. Cheated on his wife, got AIDS and then became the fucking spoke person for it.
They are not ROLE MODELS. They never asked to be, they never signed up, people like you are putting titles on them because they are popular. Maybe YOU need to rethink some of the things you say before going off on others.
HoSpanky wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 17:27:Quboid wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 14:19:VaranDragon wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 13:40:HoSpanky wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 12:32:
None of you read the article. It's a comedy piece. See that bit there Blue put in (Satire)? You ARE the Facebook crowd, getting bent out of shape because you're too lazy to pay attention.
Or we did read the article and regardless of its satire (or perhaps because of it) it poses interesting questions that maybe should be discussed?
Nearly everyone was talking about PewDiePie, the person being satirised. I think HoSpanky was too lazy to pay attention.
When did I say it wasn't about PDP? Literally every post prior to my first one was about how dumb/wrong the author was, zero of those people read the article before posting, which is Facebook thinking. "I know all I need to from the article title, which I didn't read very clearly". PewDiePie was absolutely the intended "writer" for that article.
Anyway, it's back to the whole Spider-Man catchphrase. People who have a lot of influence really, REALLY need to realize that everything they do can and will be imitated by the kids who adore them. These people need to hold themselves to a higher standard. Fame always comes with that, and these shitheels don't want to change themselves at all despite being role models. I'm lumping professional atheletes in with streamers here, btw. Both behave badly FAR more than they ought to.
Beamer wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 18:14:Slashman wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 18:08:Cutter wrote on Sep 12, 2017, 15:41:
The problem isn't the casual racism it's the SJWs with their massive overreactions to it. Even when people are simply accused of something they lose their shit. Look at that story a few weeks back where that asshole on Twitter who felt it was his personal mission to "out" racists they ended up blaming an innocent man. They were calling his house and making death threats to his wife and kids FFS! And these assholes aren't even a minority! They are just look for reasons to go off and they don't care who gets hurt or how extreme their overreactions are and that makes them way more dangerous and way worse than the so-called bigots and racists they're opposing. Hitch up your fucking panties and stop throwing hissy fits over every little thing - especially when it doesn't even apply to you. Fuck, go end poverty or something actually worthwhile.
You tell em Cutter. Most people these days don't even understand how harmless casual racism is. At least compared to the ultra-hardcore kind.
Hell I didn't even know what the hell casual racism was until you made it clear. And I sure as hell don't know what offends me. I've only been black for like 42 years or so. Totally need a clear-headed white person to sort out my thoughts for me.
But while we're on the subject, you wanna explain to me why the 'casual racists' (especially the ones raking in millions) need defending while the 'more serious racists' need condemning?
Hey buddy, listen, the problem isn't people being racist, it's people calling people racist. That's where the real harm is. Words are just words, unless they're aimed at a white guy like cutter, then they're seriously offensive.