Half-Life 2: Episode 3 Story Revealed?

In a surprise move, a post on Marclaidlaw.com from former Valve writer Marc Laidlaw offers long-suffering Half-Life fans some closure with a general story outline of Half-Life 2: Episode 3, giving a sense for how the unfinished DLC trilogy was supposed to conclude (thanks MeanJim). It's not clear if this is authorized, as the names of the characters are all changed, presumably to protect the guilty (the post is written from the PoV of Gertrude Fremont, Ph.D). Further, the site is now returning "connection refused" errors, but this may simply be due the server being overwhelmed by demand, but the Internet Wayback Machine has a cached copy. Also, addressing both the site's difficulties and the name alterations, the article is now also preserved on GitHub with all the names properly replaced with Valve's IP, which possibly puts the post in more jeopardy of being shut down. Thanks Valve News Network.
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OK people, this is all the HL3 we're going to get.
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Valve just lost their passion for writing/making great games. All they care about now is DOTA and their cash cow Steam.

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Read it on GitHub - weird read. Not sure how it would have worked as a game.
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Aug 25, 2017, 10:43
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seems like a lot of words to say nothing

I suspect this is just a gift to the community and not actually what they had planned, because if he revealed the end of a story which valve owned, even if they never use it, I think they could and would NAIL him. but it IS shallow enough to be a game story
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Why can't they just make the damn episode already? I have never understood what the hell happened for them not to finish this.
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Capella wrote on Aug 25, 2017, 10:58:
I have never understood what the hell happened for them not to finish this.

$$$ happened. Hopefully CS:GO and TF2 start to die to other games. Maybe Valve will give a fuck if their cash cows are threatened. I don't see DOTA going anywhere anytime soon though.
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Nailbender wrote on Aug 25, 2017, 10:14:
OK people, this is all the HL3 we're going to get.
I'll take what I can get. After HL2ep2, closure is all I've wanted. Still, forget Valve!

loomy wrote on Aug 25, 2017, 10:43:
seems like a lot of words to say nothing

I suspect this is just a gift to the community and not actually what they had planned, because if he revealed the end of a story which valve owned, even if they never use it, I think they could and would NAIL him. but it IS shallow enough to be a game story
The guy is the lead writer of the Half-Life series. It may just be "fan fiction", but second to Gabe Newell, he's the only other person in the world that has the authority to claim what is and isn't Half-Life.

In practice, I don't expect the final game would go like this, because rarely does a game stick exactly to the script. But I could easily see this being a Half-Life game, and a fun one at that.

(And I really doubt Valve is going to mind. NDAs expire for a reason, and they obviously don't care about Half-Life anymore)
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Aug 25, 2017, 11:23
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Nailbender wrote on Aug 25, 2017, 10:14:
OK people, this is all the HL3 we're going to get.

Yup, the final paragraph is clearly about valve.

Given how well Dota and cs do, along with Steam, and how the response to nearly any game with higher than modest expectations is immediate and vulgar backlash, I get why they wouldn't want to return. They don't need the money, they can't live up to expectations, and there'd likely only be misery. Nothing could live up to the expectations. Maybe a decade ago, not now.
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Marc Laidlaw, the hero we need.
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Capella wrote on Aug 25, 2017, 10:58:
Why can't they just make the damn episode already? I have never understood what the hell happened for them not to finish this.

It is much too late now, of course, but it is definitely puzzling why the fuck they did not simply wrap it up back then especially with that major cliffhanger at the end of episode 2.

Episode 1 + 2 were pretty short and just more of the same so they should have been able to crank out a third episode with (relatively speaking) minimal effort.

Even if the sales of episode 1 and 2 were way down from the original game to the point that the episodic format would have to be considered a "failure", I doubt that it would have ruined Valve if they would have made a third episode for closure.

Besides, they could have cashed in on more complete versions (the now even more orange box or something).

I have long stopped giving a fuck. Valve has no respect for the HL franchise so why should I? Fuck that game.
There have been many more, better story-driven FPS in the meantime. HL was special back then because it was more than just run&gun but it has long since lost that USP.

There are so many great gaming universes and stories to explore nowadays. I don't need to know how the (getting lamer with each iteration anyway) story of Gertrude vs. the aliens would continue. Yawn.
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Awesome. It's basically an outline of the story and locations, but with a little imagination you can totally see the flow of gameplay would work. From slower exploration parts to more dynamic cutsceney sections and various combat scenarios in between. It is completely believable to me, which makes it all the more bittersweet.
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These leaks are totally unacceptable, heads will roll.
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ViRGE wrote on Aug 25, 2017, 11:23:
In practice, I don't expect the final game would go like this, because rarely does a game stick exactly to the script. But I could easily see this being a Half-Life game, and a fun one at that.

Knowing Valve, something would have happened near the original release and they'd scrap it and start over, eventually releasing something better 2 years later.

Since Valve has no interest in Half-Life anymore, I wish they'd give Laidlaw the go-ahead to write it and let the team behind Black Mesa make it. At least they run on time similar Valve time, so it could work.
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The problem with more half-life is it'll never live up to the expectations and hype.

And they don't need the money so why bother shooting yourself in the foot?
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Aug 25, 2017, 12:41
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This feels to me at least, like some closure. Its at least something. Cause we know we will never get Half-Life 2 Episode 3, or Half-Life 3.

I don't think Valve will do anything, he has the argument that its fan-fiction, even though its from the former lead writer.
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Tipsy McStagger wrote on Aug 25, 2017, 12:34:
The problem with more half-life is it'll never live up to the expectations and hype.

And they don't need the money so why bother shooting yourself in the foot?

In addition to this, maybe there isn't enough of a team at Valve who is interested in doing this project. Not only that, but the team has to be of high enough calibre that the game they produce is as good as HL2, preferably better. Since HL2 was already a high point in FPS gaming, coupled with extreme fan demand and speculation, I think it would be quite difficult to get the quality of the game high enough that people would be satisfied with it.
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Beamer wrote on Aug 25, 2017, 11:23:
Yup, the final paragraph is clearly about valve.

Good supposition, Beamer; I agree. I think Laidlaw posting this is a goodbye F.U. to Valve. He's obviously proud of his writing and is disappointed the game wasn't made. I think the posting is a childish, unprofessional act, but the old Valve team certainly has cause to be frustrated. Laidlaw needs to put Valve behind him and move on. Hopefully for him, this post makes it possible. (This, and the dumptrucks full of money he likely made.)

There are only two substantial locations in this story: 1) the Arctic Combine base, and 2) onboard the Borealis ship bouncing around time from which the three characters cannot disembark. It doesn't seem like much of a setting for a full-fledged game. It looks like this was intended as another five-hour episode rather than a HL3.
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So much lost fun in this. How were they going to integrate the portal gun? What was the story with the ship and the time travel and who is Gordan Freeman? Damn it all to hell!
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CJ_Parker wrote on Aug 25, 2017, 12:00:
Valve has no respect for the HL franchise so why should I? Fuck that game.

I was going to comment that duh, you have no respect for anything, but realized that's wrong. You have enormous respect for intangible, pointless things (i.e., your own opinion of what something should be), and absolutely zero respect for actual products and, more importantly, the people that made them.

Were HL3 to come out, you'd inevitably make a thousand posts about how terrible it was from the moment it was announced, and how stupid the people making it are and the people anticipating it or enjoying it are.

You're likely a big reason why there is no HL3. The original team got paid enough that they didn't need the trouble of angry fans telling them how awful their game is. The new people at Valve don't need anyone telling them they ruined the legacy. So it's better to let HL2 stay as it is, fondly remembered (though there are some that still say it was far inferior to HL), especially when it isn't needed for the good of the company.
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I think Valve's opinion on HL has been stated a few times, in as much if the technology allows them to bring about a new experience they would release the game. As I recall the "technology" in HL1 was access to environment audio (Creative Labs EAX, I believe it was?) and some video card features that didn't exist before, and HL2 was released on their new Source engine and include physics gameplay. HL3? Probably existed to a point with 3D - and was decided that wasn't the right path. I'm okay with an unfinished story, at this point it's been so long.
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