Steam Top 10

Valve reports the following are the bestselling titles on Steam for last week:

  1. PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS
  2. Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
  3. Total War: WARHAMMER II
  4. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
  5. LawBreakers
  6. No Man's Sky
  7. Grand Theft Auto V
  8. theHunter: Call of the Wild
  9. H1Z1: King of the Kill
  10. Foxhole
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 14, 2017, 21:16:
I personally find it depressing because streamers are out to get followers and make money, not to provide an objective view of a given game. Because of that, I personally believe it's a mistake for the game industry to cater to them, even though the industry clearly is.

There's a massive elitist element to contemporary gaming that largely goes ignored yet echoes throughout human history, but I find people are willing to overlook a lot of things in the interest of momentary obsession.
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Primalchrome wrote on Aug 14, 2017, 17:44:
] Why, exactly, is it depressing? Was it depressing when I used to buy Byte! or Joystick magazine to find out what was going on in gaming? Was it depressing when I started reading Blues? Was it depressing when I watched 'let's play' footage on Youtube? PC Gaming has been a cutting edge part of tech/geek culture for decades. It is astounding that so many of us old school gamers are now turning into the 'get off my lawn' crowd and prefer to gnash teeth at tech/cultural/social advancement. It's the same mindset that has my father-in-law gobbling air the first year I pointed out that gaming rev was higher than movie theater rev...this after so many years of snide remarks.

At no point did I say that you need to find it depressing. I acknowledge that streamers/let's play etc. is the wave of the future, or the current state of affairs even. I personally find it depressing, because clearly some developers seem to cater to streamers an inordinate amount, sometimes to the detriment of the game, and sometimes to the detriment of 'regular' players.

We disagree on the streamers. We (I'm assuming) agree on actual trolls/hackers, who should be banned. Have the admins banned anybody by mistake, in whatever net they are casting to preserve streamers' playing? I have no idea, but I can see how it could happen. Do I think some of the complaints on the Steam forums about PUBG seem valid? Yes.

I personally find it depressing because streamers are out to get followers and make money, not to provide an objective view of a given game. Because of that, I personally believe it's a mistake for the game industry to cater to them, even though the industry clearly is. That is depressing. Not jump off a cliff depressing, but 'oh, that burger place I liked down the street closed, oh well, pizza?' depressing.

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saluk wrote on Aug 14, 2017, 17:41:
Lawbreakers is on the list, but isn't it a huge disappointment saleswise? I guess being 5 on the top 10 your first week isn't the best, but still seems decent. Are the people who bought it just not playing it yet?

Look at the drop in players and total sales. DOA https://steamdb.info/app/350280/graphs/
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For the record, I am opposed to harassment. I just feel that streamers at best are narcissistic attention seekers and at worst suffer from histrionic personality disorder or some other mental instability that should be professionally addressed. Devs should not be feeding these tendencies, IMO. And I base this not only on streamers that I've watched, but one I knew IRL.
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 14, 2017, 11:57:
The fact that people are defending Streamers as integral to modern gamin is really depressing. Most likely true, but still depressing. Talk about catering to the wrong market.
Why, exactly, is it depressing? Was it depressing when I used to buy Byte! or Joystick magazine to find out what was going on in gaming? Was it depressing when I started reading Blues? Was it depressing when I watched 'let's play' footage on Youtube? PC Gaming has been a cutting edge part of tech/geek culture for decades. It is astounding that so many of us old school gamers are now turning into the 'get off my lawn' crowd and prefer to gnash teeth at tech/cultural/social advancement. It's the same mindset that has my father-in-law gobbling air the first year I pointed out that gaming rev was higher than movie theater rev...this after so many years of snide remarks.
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Lawbreakers is on the list, but isn't it a huge disappointment saleswise? I guess being 5 on the top 10 your first week isn't the best, but still seems decent. Are the people who bought it just not playing it yet?

It's nice to see Hellblade at #2, although it did get a ton of press. I like small teams really focused on making the game they want to make do well.

Never heard of foxhole, might have to check it out in a few years when it's ready.
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Jivaro wrote on Aug 14, 2017, 13:48:
I am as streamer indifferent as anyone but streaming is part of the future of the gaming industry whether you, me, or whomever like it or not and the devs/pubs are just adjusting to the times in ways that acknowledge the wants/needs of their current and future player base. Can't blame them for that, they would be pretty horrible at business in general if they didn't adapt to industry changes brought on by the interests of the customers. Seems pretty no-brainer to do what you can to eliminate anyone who makes it their sole mission to ruin the fun of others, streamers or otherwise. *shrug*
Well put.
This does not affect 99.95% of all gamers. As for the 0.05%, they get what they deserve.
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I am as streamer indifferent as anyone but streaming is part of the future of the gaming industry whether you, me, or whomever like it or not and the devs/pubs are just adjusting to the times in ways that acknowledge the wants/needs of their current and future player base. Can't blame them for that, they would be pretty horrible at business in general if they didn't adapt to industry changes brought on by the interests of the customers. Seems pretty no-brainer to do what you can to eliminate anyone who makes it their sole mission to ruin the fun of others, streamers or otherwise. *shrug*
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I had no idea this was such a touchy topic, haha!

I'm tempted to buy PUBG now just to see how good/bad the situation really is, although I hear cheating and low graphic settings(removing some cover/shadows) are still issues.

The fact that people are defending Streamers as integral to modern gamin is really depressing. Most likely true, but still depressing. Talk about catering to the wrong market.
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jdreyer wrote on Aug 14, 2017, 00:23:
Exactly. Streamers are attention-seeking, egotistical grifters. The decision to stream should not require any special activity on the developer's end. It reeks of special treatment.
JD, you're normally a voice of reason on Blues... You're looking at a couple of examples and throwing a wide net. Streamers are the new marketing partners of the game industry....a few days of popular streamers on your title can make a difference in a couple hundred thousand in sales. As to it being 'special treatment'....not really. It's policing the equivalent of harassment and luddite hacking in game. "They're streaming publically, so they deserve what they get." Is that the same for people that get doxxed when most of the information is 'public'? How about traffic sniffing and using that information to stalk them in game or even in the real world? It's really no different...streams of data that are easily accessible by people who know what they're doing. One can be done by mouthbreathers...the other requires a script kiddy (practically one in the same).
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jdreyer wrote on Aug 14, 2017, 00:23:
Retired wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 23:51:
The answer to everything is 1 streamer - one toxic fuck that ruins it for everyone. Ninja. A crying bitch that is the reason why gamers are looked at the way they are.

Every time he dies, he reports the person for cheating.

Exactly. Streamers are attention-seeking, egotistical grifters. The decision to stream should not require any special activity on the developer's end. It reeks of special treatment.

They do it because those voices count more than ours in terms of sales and engagement. Most pubs cannot afford to actually pay someone to stream their game, though crowd-sourcing it has issues because you cannot fire them when they turn out to be white supremacists or whatever.

And there is a huge market for it. We will buy a game like PUBG due to word of mouth and maybe watching some trusted youtubers (The kind that don't scream or seem like frustrated acting school drop outs) but most kids I know only have youtube and wont be able to afford a decent PC until they leave home. Streamers let them be a part of our sometimes awesome culture.
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Retired wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 23:51:
The answer to everything is 1 streamer - one toxic fuck that ruins it for everyone. Ninja. A crying bitch that is the reason why gamers are looked at the way they are.

Every time he dies, he reports the person for cheating.

Exactly. Streamers are attention-seeking, egotistical grifters. The decision to stream should not require any special activity on the developer's end. It reeks of special treatment.
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The answer to everything is 1 streamer - one toxic fuck that ruins it for everyone. Ninja. A crying bitch that is the reason why gamers are looked at the way they are.

Every time he dies, he reports the person for cheating.
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 18:15:
All I know is, if I get into a car in 99% of the FPS games that you can get into a car, I'm going to lay on the horn if I feel like it. That shouldn't be a bannable offense. The fact that it is, is a fault of the developer(s) or whomever they chose to run their servers/client list/whatever.

*BEEP BEEP* You're about to get run over by a damned jeep, in a FPS! Classic Battlefield. Apparently it's sacrilege in PUBG.

I don't like people deliberately trolling others, but the horn thing seems extremely minor. Why put the horns in if they are only going to ban 'regular' people to protect 'privileged' streamers? Mind boggling.


So what is happening is, trolls are watching the streamers, and keep joining and leaving games until they are in the same game as the player, then finding a vehicle (which I think is pretty static on the map), going to where the streamer is and laying on the horn. Basically they are virtually stalking the streamer.
The Devs can tell when people are purposely joining and exiting games to find a streamer, and then take action. It's not some random thing.
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 18:28:
If the admins CAN tell the difference, great.

Disclaimer: I don't play PUBG, although I am tempted by certain aspects to get it, reading about bannings, when it's still in Early Access, is a bit of a turnoff. Catering to streamers is a huge turnoff, but I guess that's how multiplayer games work these days.
Jesus fucking Christ. This has been covered so many times but people keep talking out their asses just to have a chance to post something. IT IS STATISTICALLY OBVIOUS WHENEVER ANYONE IS STREAM SNIPING DUE TO THE FACT THEIR BEHAVIOR IS UTTERLY ILLOGICAL OTHERWISE. Couple this with the fact that Reddit/Forum/Steam posters are almost always full of shit when trying to claim why they were banned. I so miss when the League of Legends devs would post logs from people that would publically complain that they were banned for 'honking a horn near a streamer'. It was always a hilarious example of a shitheel toxic player twisting events to play the victim card being picked on by the big bad corporation....the good old American pasttime.
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Dentorro wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 20:08:
If you want to stream while playing a game and get wrecked because of it take it like a man otherwise all you gonna end up is a game with only "streamers".
https://steamdb.info/app/578080/graphs/
Over 200k are currently playing, over 600k played in the last 24 hours.
Over 6 million own the game with 5 million playing in the last 2 weeks.

The numbers don't bear you out.
What will happen is that some of the shit stains who deliberately troll will get banned, nothing more-nothing less.
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 19:50:
RedEye9 wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 18:35:
Blahman wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 18:30:
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 18:28:
reading about bannings, when it's still in Early Access, is a bit of a turnoff. Catering to streamers is a huge turnoff, but I guess that's how multiplayer games work these days.

It's a total non-issue. No one "accidentally" stream snipes. The people that do it, do it on purpose, and pay the price. If you play legitimately you have nothing to worry about.
But that means we will have to bitch and moan about something else that we don't understand.

Welcome to the internet.

If I get banned because I was driving around, beeping a horn or doing something else deemed unbecoming a Murderous PUBG inhabitant, I'll be sure to do an "I told you so" to you guys.

If you want to stream while playing a game and get wrecked because of it take it like a man otherwise all you gonna end up is a game with only "streamers".

You have to be a real idiot to think that (some) people will not make use of any advantage they can get to win a game and if they can annoy some 2 bit celeb with it it's an even bigger incentive.
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RedEye9 wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 18:35:
Blahman wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 18:30:
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 18:28:
reading about bannings, when it's still in Early Access, is a bit of a turnoff. Catering to streamers is a huge turnoff, but I guess that's how multiplayer games work these days.

It's a total non-issue. No one "accidentally" stream snipes. The people that do it, do it on purpose, and pay the price. If you play legitimately you have nothing to worry about.
But that means we will have to bitch and moan about something else that we don't understand.

Welcome to the internet.

If I get banned because I was driving around, beeping a horn or doing something else deemed unbecoming a Murderous PUBG inhabitant, I'll be sure to do an "I told you so" to you guys.
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Blahman wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 18:30:
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 18:28:
reading about bannings, when it's still in Early Access, is a bit of a turnoff. Catering to streamers is a huge turnoff, but I guess that's how multiplayer games work these days.

It's a total non-issue. No one "accidentally" stream snipes. The people that do it, do it on purpose, and pay the price. If you play legitimately you have nothing to worry about.
But that means we will have to bitch and moan about something else that we don't understand.
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Aug 13, 2017, 18:28:
reading about bannings, when it's still in Early Access, is a bit of a turnoff. Catering to streamers is a huge turnoff, but I guess that's how multiplayer games work these days.

It's a total non-issue. No one "accidentally" stream snipes. The people that do it, do it on purpose, and pay the price. If you play legitimately you have nothing to worry about.
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