Rigs wrote on Jul 21, 2017, 06:16:
DOOM on ULTRA all the way and way beyond playable, my jaw was on the floor! I couldn't believe it.

Had a similar experience. I recently went from two 5870s in SLI (surprisingly good with even today's games) to a 1080. The 5870s ran everything I threw at them, but finally choked on Doom, but the 1080... incredible. Too bad the game is so boring. Looked gorgeous, but I just lost interest about what I reckon was a quarter of the way through.

Sadly Steam only has three update options which boil down to "always update" and "update when I load the game". Great, so the next time I want to play my single player campaign, I get to download a 30gb patch I don't want. Fantastic.

Maybe offline mode will work properly, but I'm not getting my hopes up. So many games these days require phoning home before launching. If this is the case with Doom, I'm uninstalling it.

mag wrote on Jul 21, 2017, 01:46:

Dentorro wrote on Jul 20, 2017, 13:15:

FloorPie wrote on Jul 20, 2017, 03:55:
According to windows, my Doom install is now only 67GB. IIRC, before mega patch it was 78GB.

I think you are thinking of the hi rez texture pack of fallout 4

Fallout 4 was 78GB? Goddamn. It was kind of an ugly game, too.

Heh, yeah, I just got my 1050ti/4gb the other day (frakkin' awesome! what a difference from my 7850/1gb! - DOOM on ULTRA all the way and way beyond playable, my jaw was on the floor! I couldn't believe it. I figured it'd chug a little, at least but nope. And then I find out it was on the Vulkan-setting!? I thought that was AMD only? Still worked great) and was trying all my games out again to see the differences (like a kid on Christmas!). I loaded up Fallout4 thinking it was gonna blow my mind like DOOM did and be a major upgrade (and not so frakkin ugly) buuut...not quite. Oh, it ran beautifully. Like 90+ fps on my old 7850 settings (which were basically low, low, and, oh, low). But the graphics and textures themselves, while clearer and not as blurry and washed out were...not as jaw dropping. I'm sorry to say but Fallout4, while in spots can be a real looker with the right lighting and time of day and landscape view, is mostly ugly as sin. So much brown and gray. I have like 30 mods running, too and they don't seem to help very much in the looks department. I don't have the HD texture pack installed, however. So maybe that will help. It's gonna have to wait though, because...

36gigs?!? Are you frakkin' kidding me?!? GTFOH, mate! I saw the news post and then went into STEAM thinking it would be a quick download and luckily I watched it before it started actually downloading and when it said '36gb', I was like, 'Nope!', that ain't happenin'. Especially at the end of the month on my excessively-data-capped-sorry-excuse-for-a-broadband-provider-satellite-connection?! You must be mad...

=-Rigs-=

Dentorro wrote on Jul 20, 2017, 13:15:

FloorPie wrote on Jul 20, 2017, 03:55:
According to windows, my Doom install is now only 67GB. IIRC, before mega patch it was 78GB.

I think you are thinking of the hi rez texture pack of fallout 4

Fallout 4 was 78GB? Goddamn. It was kind of an ugly game, too.

FloorPie wrote on Jul 20, 2017, 03:55:
According to windows, my Doom install is now only 67GB. IIRC, before mega patch it was 78GB.

I think you are thinking of the hi rez texture pack of fallout 4

Beamer wrote on Jul 20, 2017, 10:31:
Nothing in games is more overrated than "immersion."

I would say it depends on the game. Wouldn't you say that when you forget you're playing a game and are completely "immersed" that it's a lot more fun than just plain old grinding?

The last games I got those vibes from was the last Deus Ex. Bloody brilliant in that regard. Also The Witcher3 was an even bigger winner in that respect.

With that said, "immersion" all by itself without a solid gameplay loop is a very short lasting and ultimatively disappointing experience.

Nothing in games is more overrated than "immersion."

Wesp5 wrote on Jul 20, 2017, 07:06:
I agree! Why make such photo realistic demons and then have them drop colorful iconized goodies that kick you right out of the immersion? Why make the gameplay so obvious you-enter-a-combat-arena now? I played a few old Doom 1 and 2 levels recently and some were much more complicated and creative!

In level design, there is a difference between creating an arena and creating a somewhat believable setting, where baddies are hanging out and you just stumble upon them.

Doom 3 was a boring arena, its addon presented monsters in believable setting, where you don't had the impression all enemies were just waiting in tiny cupboards for you to come by. Doom 4 is a little bit in the middle. They try to make a "real" mars installation, but too often it degenerates in a simple arena fight.

Muscular Beaver wrote on Jul 20, 2017, 06:58:
Could have been so much more with just some little tweaks.

I agree! Why make such photo realistic demons and then have them drop colorful iconized goodies that kick you right out of the immersion? Why make the gameplay so obvious you-enter-a-combat-arena now? I played a few old Doom 1 and 2 levels recently and some were much more complicated and creative!

This game was such a disappointment.
Multiplayer aside, which sucked in any case, the single player was also meh-worthy.
The graphics were nice, but the music was boring and most of the time didnt fit to this kind of action packed gameplay, and the sounds of the weapons made you fall asleep because of how quiet they were and their sounds not having a "kick".
Levels were also streamlined with these stupid beacons that showed you the way or where to jump, climb, etc. Consolitis.

Could have been so much more with just some little tweaks.

According to windows, my Doom install is now only 67GB. IIRC, before mega patch it was 78GB.

I envision DOOM being in the Humble Monthly in the next couple of months. If not August's unlock then September's headliner.

aka_STEVE wrote on Jul 19, 2017, 18:25:
**changes DOOM in STEAM -> to NOT update automatically ..**

Yeah, good luck with that considering that setting literally doesn't exist anymore....

dangerman77 wrote on Jul 19, 2017, 20:30:
This is nearly as bad as Obsidian unleashing 2+ GB patches for minor Pillars of Eternity fixes.

Omg.. and I thought I was the only one pissed off about this (related to PoE) I uninstalled Doom months ago, SSD space is precious

I still remember v1.666 in DOOM 1 for DOS.

Jerykk wrote on Jul 20, 2017, 00:16:
The multiplayer focus of the DLC and marketing is still bizarre to me. Nobody cares about the MP and if they want a multiplayer id game, they can just play Quake Champions. I have no idea why Bethesda thought Doom's multiplayer would be more popular than its single-player, especially when that has never been the case for any of the games in the series.

To be fair, the multiplayer portion of Doom was pretty fun. I enjoyed it quite a bit, but yeah, the single-player portion of the game was far more compelling. It was straight-up old-fashioned mayhem. I loved every minute of it. This is the kind of game that needs a real single-player expansion pack.

The multiplayer focus of the DLC and marketing is still bizarre to me. Nobody cares about the MP and if they want a multiplayer id game, they can just play Quake Champions. I have no idea why Bethesda thought Doom's multiplayer would be more popular than its single-player, especially when that has never been the case for any of the games in the series.

This was an interesting game for me. For awhile I had no intention of buying it after trying the demo. I thought it had nice graphics but not much else. I grabbed it cheap on sale and began to play through it.

I was determined to beat it and did so, but what a chore it felt like. It constantly felt like it was coming to an end only to not, and it only made the push to beat it that much more exhausting, lol.

The game-play gets very predictable but if you enjoy like "combat zone" scenarios where you enter a room and you know what's coming as soon as the rock music kicks in, this is for you, lol.

aka_STEVE wrote on Jul 19, 2017, 18:25:
**changes DOOM in STEAM -> to NOT update automatically ..**

I don't believe patches are opt-in anymore though? Sadly...

Edit: Some people over at Reddit have said that the patch lowers the install size to around 60GB, so it changes the file structure to be less bloated I guess. That's not so bad. Still have to grab the patch though, if installed.

This comment was edited on Jul 19, 2017, 21:59.

They are offering the complete package for a new low price of $14.99/£11.99/$17.99 (AUS)...

Ah, so Euro players outside the UK get f'ed in the beautiful a and can keep paying full price? OK. Good to know they are officially asking € players to pirate their casual pew pew garbage game. I will gladly do them the favor if and when I can ever be bothered to download all that crap (probably never or when it has dropped to €0.99 in the Euro zone they apparently give zero fucks about).

aka_STEVE wrote on Jul 19, 2017, 18:25:
**changes DOOM in STEAM -> to NOT update automatically ..**

Before you begin to feel too smart and high&mighty about yourself: You do realize that that setting won't stick forever, right?