RedEye9 wrote on Jul 8, 2017, 11:52:
All your spies are belong to us.
By the time I have to install 10 on my box it might be a half decent os. To everyone who has beta tested it over the last couple of years, my hats off to you.
wtf_man wrote on Jul 8, 2017, 23:12:Since Windows 10 is on a twice yearly 'update' period with 18 months of support, how do you handle that with the Enterprise version. Considering that prior versions of Window lasted decades, I would think this would be a hastle for IT departments.
We run Enterprise 2016 LTSB on our endpoints at work, with group policy turning off all the phone home / telemetry that it possibly can (and some other tweaks).
Still not 100% fullproof, and I wouldn't even run that at home.
They are rumored to come out with a "Workstation OS" based on Server 2016. I might consider that... but it might just be better to run Server 2016 Standard. I'll have to load some games up on it and see how it does.
RedEye9 wrote on Jul 9, 2017, 09:09:
Since Windows 10 is on a twice yearly 'update' period with 18 months of support, how do you handle that with the Enterprise version. Considering that prior versions of Window lasted decades, I would think this would be a hastle for IT departments.
wtf_man wrote on Jul 9, 2017, 11:02:MSDN subscriptions are $4K. That's an awful lot to pay for a better version of Windows 10.
For home, you could get a MSDN subscription. (Now called Visual Studio Pro Subscription)
Going partners with some folks, and not renewing the subscription is pretty much how folks get around the expense... but you didn't hear that from me.
Also, one needs to realize that we had to pay an extra $180 per machine to upgrade to Enterprise LTSB. Machines from Dell and others only come with a Pro license.
LTSB has new "annual builds"... so that's how you get your 10 years from when you purchase. There already was a 2015 and 2016 build... the 2017 LTSB build will come out in the fall and would get security updates until 2027.
wtf_man wrote on Jul 9, 2017, 16:10:
$1200.00 first year
Annual Subscriptions - Visual Studio Professional
Look at Standard Subscriptions Tab.
Have a friend or two go in with you... cuts down the cost... keys still work after you cancel the subscription.
In the chart, look under "Subscriber Benefits" and you will see that "Windows, Windows Server, Windows Embedded, Microsoft SQL Server" is checked for the $1200.00 version. It's a dirty way to get your hands on Enterprise LTSB OS's without technically pirating... but like you said... it's the version that everyone would want and they don't make it easily available.
EDIT: Ah crap... they lock you into subscribing for at lease 3 years:
Look at Cloud vs. Standard Subcription terms:
Committed subscription term - Typically 36 months for most
Which would be an additional $1600 for 2 years.
After the subscription expires, can use the software that was available during the active subscription term (“perpetual” use rights) - Yes in most cases
Bottom line, So yeah... you were right... spendy... $2800 total.
Need to split that cost with 10 friends!