If there's one game I regret being excited about more than The Old Republic, it's gotta be Firefall. The first hands-on demo at E3 was fun. The initial release was...kinda fun. But ye gods, that thing just kept getting worse and worse. Even their "relaunch" effort was just a completely hot mess. I feel bad for all the people who played this, including myself.

whatever, the "lure of e-sports" might have been dumb, but the multiplayer was fun, then they just removed it entirely, and said they had no plans on re-implementing it. it was sad.

HoSpanky wrote on Jul 7, 2017, 16:45:
This is one of those games I always intended to check out, but the release date kept slipping, and then it came out with no fanfare that I recall.

From the comments, it sounds like I missed out on something kinda neat but ultimately disappointing.

There were moments went it was brilliant, but unfortunately it got buried under in fighting, constant major shifts in character advancement, a dev team that paid too much attention to a few vocal founders who spoke out their asses and the lure of esports...

Biggest fuck up they made was ditching the original leveling system (right after friends and family beta and the initial founder release) for horizontal progression. Content was limited as was the level of the mobs you could fight, so you could only practically get 4 or 5 levels before XP income from kills (no quests) was dead. This prompted a lot of people to bitch the game was too grindy (wouldn't have been with more higher level content...) so the first major retool occurred and they made progression flat and ditched the heal hose for skill shot bullshit medic abilities...

From there, the community divided and they kept chasing the impossible "make everyone happy". Content releases etc expanded the world and it was great fun at times, but flat progression meant that if you were a good player, you could pretty much do any content that didn't have a DPS gate solo as soon as you started, ie. head off in a random direction and rely on your skill rather than your gear. This prompted invention of ways to hold players back artificially so they didn't consume the entire content in days. Etc etc etc...

And then there was Grummz and his management (or lack thereof) of the staff.

This game should be a case study for any new dev team interested in making a MMO of how to take a great IP/concept and really fuck the ever loving shit out of it.

so much wrong with this game, from the west coast customs 10 million dollar (i guess?) bus they used for PAX, to the Nathan Fillion-led firefall TV show week (which is hilarious, cause i kind of suggest that to them int he forums, and their coke-out CEO ran with it). To the utter asing of any intreesting mechanic in favor of boring leveling garbage nonsense like any other wannabe MMO, to all the proposed content that was never built cause they changed tack every 3 months (coked-out CEO).

But it had it's charms. I was a founder, I even had the uber legendary glider that was worth hundreds of dollars. I really got lost in that game for a while. It had such potential.

Oh well, I'm looking forward to that new Bioware Edmonton IP that looks VERY firefall-ish, that should do me just fine.

I remember trying this game. It was meh. Oh noes, yet another MMO crashes and burns.

This is one of those games I always intended to check out, but the release date kept slipping, and then it came out with no fanfare that I recall.

From the comments, it sounds like I missed out on something kinda neat but ultimately disappointing.

eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 7, 2017, 13:29:
Maybe the game wouldn't have flopped nearly so much if the series had some actual writers and actors, and maybe some better CGI dudes employed.. because by the gods that was atrocious acting and writing.. still have nightmares of it!

If only they had added Stretch Goals such as celebrity voice-acting and built their own mocap studio for professional motion capture. Just like that other, coming soon, game.

Maybe the game wouldn't have flopped nearly so much if the series had some actual writers and actors, and maybe some better CGI dudes employed.. because by the gods that was atrocious acting and writing.. still have nightmares of it!

So long to the WoW knockoff no one asked for. And why on earth would anyone give him dime one after this nonsense? You'd literally be better off burning your money.

maybe he can have another vehicle built by west coast customs.

jacobvandy wrote on Jul 7, 2017, 11:03:
RIP. They added way more quest content at launch at beyond, but the continuous overhauls and eventual removal of resource gathering killed it. I had way more fun with this game in beta when you could thump anywhere, finding little nooks and crannies that were rich in minerals but still easy to defend, or causing some mayhem near bases that other people would join in on...

That ex-CEO has been crowdfunding and starting production on a spiritual successor called Em-8ER, if anyone's interested. I'm not getting my hopes up for it, but the intent is basically to make the game he wanted Firefall to be. They're doing a loyalty rewards thing, too, where you can get some stuff just for being a player of Firefall or they'll match you dollar-for-dollar if you were a founder. That process requires putting a verification link in your Firefall forums account profile, so anyone that wants to better get on that asap in case that site disappears soon: https://emberbot.jadex.eu/founders/

He seems far more interested in fighting on Twitter than making a game.

RIP. They added way more quest content at launch at beyond, but the continuous overhauls and eventual removal of resource gathering killed it. I had way more fun with this game in beta when you could thump anywhere, finding little nooks and crannies that were rich in minerals but still easy to defend, or causing some mayhem near bases that other people would join in on...

That ex-CEO has been crowdfunding and starting production on a spiritual successor called Em-8ER, if anyone's interested. I'm not getting my hopes up for it, but the intent is basically to make the game he wanted Firefall to be. They're doing a loyalty rewards thing, too, where you can get some stuff just for being a player of Firefall or they'll match you dollar-for-dollar if you were a founder. That process requires putting a verification link in your Firefall forums account profile, so anyone that wants to better get on that asap in case that site disappears soon: https://emberbot.jadex.eu/founders/