Out of the Blue

Finally caught up with the season three finale of Better Call Saul. So, yeah, wow. I was pretty sure heading into it I would like the show, but it has consistently exceeded expectations, which doesn't even make sense considering its Breaking Bad pedigree. The Sergio Leone-style pace of the show is part of its beauty, as nothing is rushed. And since it's a prequel that I love so much, I can only hope they slow down further. Maybe we can get 10 more seasons that each cover something like a week. Just a thought.

Saul Links: Thanks Ant and Acleacius.
Play: Cave Golf.
Stories: Jets owner asked to be ambassador to the UK. Both jobs have the same requirement$.
Cosby plans ‘town halls’ on avoiding sexual assault accusations. The "how not to get caught" tour.
Science: Lone Star tick bites can cause rare meat allergy in some people.
NASA Fact Checks Goop Over Wearable Body Stickers.
Media: Every Single Product Placement in the Films of Michael Bay.
Just WTF. Prometheus 3?
Cowboy ridin' a Bull ... dog.
Follow-up: How Canada’s small military produced deadly, record-breaking snipers.
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Finally the administration is doing something I agree with
Obama reportedly ordered implants to be deployed in key Russian networks
arstechnica

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Nimh wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 11:49:
Really Blue? Canada has good snipers goes under 'The funnies'?
It's not so funny now.
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jdreyer wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 16:51:
How Canada’s small military produced deadly, record-breaking snipers.

It's all that practice on the treeless tundra.

No, it's not being able to play video games with drones to kill people or just drop bombs and missiles on people, the Canadian military doesn't have any of that so they have to do it the old-fashioned, hands-on approach way. People may laugh but Canucks have been cleaning up for decades in international sniper competitions.
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 16:21:
Clearly nothing is wrong with the universe. Carry on.
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 16:21:
Clearly nothing is wrong with the universe. Carry on.

Shocked that he never changed his name...
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How Canada’s small military produced deadly, record-breaking snipers.

It's all that practice on the treeless tundra.
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VaranDragon wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 12:07:
Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 11:39:
Yeah, I don't know about that. We were talking about "Animal House" the other day, which clearly is a culturally significant film, but it hasn't withstood the test of time. The most likely candidate for withstanding time, at least in film, is a period piece -- for instance, "Lawrence of Arabia". It is set in a specific historic time, hence it never loses it's timeliness...

You are missing the point. It's not just about style and technique. It's about substance. Take Shakespeare as another example. It's style is almost incomprehensible to audiences today. It is completely antiquated in every way, however it lives on, and is rightfully recognized as some of the best dramatic literature ever written down or performed.

Because Shakespeare stories are about fundamental human nature, which hasn't changed at all since the plays were first written.
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Clearly nothing is wrong with the universe. Carry on.
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Timelessness is essentially about universality. The audience needs to connect to the material in an understandable way through its themes. You see plenty of these in religious texts and myths - the search for immortality, natural disasters, and in the case of Shakespeare situational (human) comedy and tragedy. Joseph Campbell is probably the best known "modern" mythologist who properly explains this although he is more commonly known for having been an influence on George Lucas. Indeed, the original Star Wars trilogy would be a good example of filmography that stands the test of time. There's a fine line between art and cliché, though, and while contemporary AAA movies like Transformers are built on similar themes that doesn't make them lasting, and that's where interpretation, meaning, and personal connection come into play. Transformers is entertaining but there's little depth or ambiguity to it and the audience doesn't grow any sort of attachment - while readers, especially young adults, can usually empathize with Hamlet or Ophelia, and the themes are complex and grey.
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Thanks for answering. I agree.
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Exactly.
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VaranDragon wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 13:34:
Im trying to say that 20, 100, 500 years from now no one is going to remember who Michael Bay was and what he did for a living. His movies will not stand the test of time.
Okay, I'll buy that. So, the Shakespeare stuff was intended as a counter example? That despite being "incomprehensible" to the uneducated masses it is still well known and regarded?
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VaranDragon wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 13:34:
Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 13:02:
And what is the connection to Micheal Bay in all of this? Seriously -- I'm not trying to be a jerk. I don't understand what it is you are trying to say...

Im trying to say that 20, 100, 500 years from now no one is going to remember who Michael Bay was and what he did for a living. His movies will not stand the test of time.

What, no Transformers in the Park performances?
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 13:02:
And what is the connection to Micheal Bay in all of this? Seriously -- I'm not trying to be a jerk. I don't understand what it is you are trying to say...

Im trying to say that 20, 100, 500 years from now no one is going to remember who Michael Bay was and what he did for a living. His movies will not stand the test of time.
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Nimh wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 11:49:
Really Blue? Canada has good snipers goes under 'The funnies'?

Yeah and under the thing that Canada calls 'Bacon'.
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VaranDragon wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 11:31:
The question I always ask myself when I hear a new piece of music, see a new piece of art, watch a new movie or read a book invariably is: How will this stand the test of time?
VaranDragon wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 12:07:
You are missing the point. It's not just about style and technique. It's about substance. Take Shakespeare as another example. It's style is almost incomprehensible to audiences today. It is completely antiquated in every way, however it lives on, and is rightfully recognized as some of the best dramatic literature ever written down or performed.
You're right, I'm missing your point. So, Shakespeare is some of the best dramatic literature ever written, but in almost incomprehensible? I suppose if it was preformed in historically accurate linguistics, yes it would be incomprehensible. But as long as modern equivalents are used I don't see that. And what is the connection to Micheal Bay in all of this? Seriously -- I'm not trying to be a jerk. I don't understand what it is you are trying to say...
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I gotta get on board for Fargo season 3. I loved the first two seasons. Unlike True Detective it didn't disappoint at all in Season 2. I'm also dying to piece together the little puzzles left behind in S2.
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Cosby plans paid conferences on telling men how to get away with rape. Lesson #1: Be a multi-millionaire in order to hire top lawyers and PR firms to make you look good and blame the victims instead. I love hos this monster claimed these were racist attacks. Yes, racist. Even from the black women he raped.
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I love Better Call Saul, but if they continue it on much longer, I won't be able to suspend my disbelief in Bob Odenkirk playing a younger Saul than in Breaking Bad. Or Mike for that matter...he's looking pretty rough lately.
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 11:39:
Yeah, I don't know about that. We were talking about "Animal House" the other day, which clearly is a culturally significant film, but it hasn't withstood the test of time. The most likely candidate for withstanding time, at least in film, is a period piece -- for instance, "Lawrence of Arabia". It is set in a specific historic time, hence it never loses it's timeliness...

You are missing the point. It's not just about style and technique. It's about substance. Take Shakespeare as another example. It's style is almost incomprehensible to audiences today. It is completely antiquated in every way, however it lives on, and is rightfully recognized as some of the best dramatic literature ever written down or performed.
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