No Recoil for Destiny 2 Guns on PC?

Those skeptical about the PC inexperience of Bungie and their PC porting partner Vicarious Visions in developing Destiny 2 won't be comforted by this post on finder.com.au (thanks PCGamesN). This reveals that the guns in the PC edition of Destiny 2 will not have the recoil found in the console versions of the shooter sequel. They quote lead designer, Mark "No Coke Jokes Please" Noseworthy on the topic, who later qualifies his statement, saying "I think that's accurate." Concluding with the odd abrupt ending from the post, here's his comment on recoil:
Yeah, we’ve thought about that quite a bit. Ultimately, we have one design for the game. And so, if you’re playing the Raid on PC or you’re playing it on PlayStation [4], it’s the same Raid. It’s the same experience. And we’re going to try and keep them as similar as possible, because hopefully we want this to be the best experience. We may look in a few places where weapons need to be handled differently, and we’ll treat them slightly differently.

For instance, there’s no recoil on guns on PC because recoil on the controller feels really good. ‘I’m firing, I’m firing, I’m firing, oh, I’m losing control of my gun a little bit.’ That feels great, especially with magnetism and all the magic in the controller that makes you feel it. With a mouse and keyboard, you don’t want the mouse moving without you moving it, so recoil doesn’t feel good, so there is no recoil on PC.

There are a couple of key ways we’re going to try and change it, make it so it feels native to that platform, because we want people to feel like Destiny 2 is built for PC. We want them t
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Holy shit I was drunk AF when I wrote that. That comment needed way more elaboration and less smugness.

I was aiming at his perspective on the black community, because you guys were talking about the hellhole that is Chicago.

The real king, ofc, is Sam Harris.
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Quinn wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 20:02:
Thomas Sowell answers all your political questions. Read his books. If you don't really give a shit and just want to feel important, please go back to the world where you actually matter.
Go be the protagonist in some awesome game.
I don't know what they are cutting your meth with but step away from the pipe.
that "even though Donald Trump has no coherent vision that looks that promising," he will "vote against Hillary Clinton" in November.
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Quinn wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 20:02:
Thomas Sowell answers all your political questions. Read his books. If you don't really give a shit and just want to feel important, please go back to the world where you actually matter.
Go be the protagonist in some awesome game.

Libertarianism is the worst. The absolute worst. It's the major reason we have such a monumental wealth divide in the US.
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peteham wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 19:38:
Surely he must be talking about climb, specifically. Most guns (or at least the ones you expect to have recoil) will probably have the kind of cross-hair bounce everyone's used to for recoil. And you'll still need to get a feel for cadence/burst-length to fire accurately.

But removing climb, or at least toning it down heavily compared to the console version makes sense to me. On the console it gives you something to do by making you locate the opposite direction sweet-spot and hold it.. On the PC, it leads to mouse jogging, which generally sucks.

That makes great sense, actually. I'm genuinely certain that is what he meant,now that you mention it.
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Thomas Sowell answers all your political questions. Read his books. If you don't really give a shit and just want to feel important, please go back to the world where you actually matter.
Go be the protagonist in some awesome game.
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Surely he must be talking about climb, specifically. Most guns (or at least the ones you expect to have recoil) will probably have the kind of cross-hair bounce everyone's used to for recoil. And you'll still need to get a feel for cadence/burst-length to fire accurately.

But removing climb, or at least toning it down heavily compared to the console version makes sense to me. On the console it gives you something to do by making you locate the opposite direction sweet-spot and hold it.. On the PC, it leads to mouse jogging, which generally sucks.
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Jun 23, 2017, 16:40
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Beamer wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 15:26:
ledhead1969 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 21:25:
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 21:23:
ledhead1969 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 20:22:
The PC vids clearly show recoil. The guy misspoke. Blues message boards are cancer.
Spoken like Stage 4 ass cancee.(sic)

Thanks for proving my point. Keep stepping on the rake I'm putting in front of you.

<edit> Democrat hell-hole Chicago stat update:

June to Date
Shot & Killed: 55
Shot & Wounded: 217
Total Shot: 272
Total Homicides: 61

Again, it isn't like they can't take the Chicago subway and legally buy outside Chicago, so using them as a data point is moronic.
Please don't use common sense, logic or critical thinking in your replies. You might hurt a simpletons feelings.
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ledhead1969 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 21:25:
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 21:23:
ledhead1969 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 20:22:
The PC vids clearly show recoil. The guy misspoke. Blues message boards are cancer.
Spoken like Stage 4 ass cancee.(sic)

Thanks for proving my point. Keep stepping on the rake I'm putting in front of you.

<edit> Democrat hell-hole Chicago stat update:

June to Date
Shot & Killed: 55
Shot & Wounded: 217
Total Shot: 272
Total Homicides: 61

Again, it isn't like they can't take the Chicago subway and legally buy outside Chicago, so using them as a data point is moronic.
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Orogogus wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 14:03:
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 08:52:
Trump supporters, by the averages;
~4% believe the earth is flat
~5% believe the moon landing was faked
~6% believe in mind-controlling "chem trails"
~7% believe the sun revolves around the earth
~9% believe in young earth and creationism
~14% believe vaccines cause autism
~19% believe Sandy Hook massacre was an inside job
~27% believe Climate Change is a hoax
~28% believe FEMA is building internment camps
~30% believe Obama is a Kenyan Muslim
~37% believe Al Qaeda was NOT responsible for 9-11

What bothers me that none of them think wrestling or National Enquirer articles are real, oh the dichotomy.

That's our average Trump supporter - angry, malleable, and ignorant.

Are those numbers sourced? The prevalence of young earth creationism in the US is higher than that (~40%, link), and I have a hard time believing Trumpers are pushing that number down.
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Darks wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 10:07:
Your as clueless as your post.

* You're
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RedEye9 wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 08:52:
Trump supporters, by the averages;
~4% believe the earth is flat
~5% believe the moon landing was faked
~6% believe in mind-controlling "chem trails"
~7% believe the sun revolves around the earth
~9% believe in young earth and creationism
~14% believe vaccines cause autism
~19% believe Sandy Hook massacre was an inside job
~27% believe Climate Change is a hoax
~28% believe FEMA is building internment camps
~30% believe Obama is a Kenyan Muslim
~37% believe Al Qaeda was NOT responsible for 9-11

What bothers me that none of them think wrestling or National Enquirer articles are real, oh the dichotomy.

That's our average Trump supporter - angry, malleable, and ignorant.

Are those numbers sourced? The prevalence of young earth creationism in the US is higher than that (~40%, link), and I have a hard time believing Trumpers are pushing that number down.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/knowsworthy/status/877943054023376896
Recoil is "heavily" modified for the pc.
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the PC vids are probably just labeled PC but are just a copy and past job from PS4
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RedEye9 wrote on Jun 23, 2017, 08:52:
ledhead1969 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 21:25:
Derp

Trump supporters, by the averages;
~4% believe the earth is flat
~5% believe the moon landing was faked
~6% believe in mind-controlling "chem trails"
~7% believe the sun revolves around the earth
~9% believe in young earth and creationism
~14% believe vaccines cause autism
~19% believe Sandy Hook massacre was an inside job
~27% believe Climate Change is a hoax
~28% believe FEMA is building internment camps
~30% believe Obama is a Kenyan Muslim
~37% believe Al Qaeda was NOT responsible for 9-11

What bothers me that none of them think wrestling or National Enquirer articles are real, oh the dichotomy.

That's our average Trump supporter - angry, malleable, and ignorant.

Your as clueless as your post.
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ledhead1969 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 21:25:
Derp

Trump supporters, by the averages;
~4% believe the earth is flat
~5% believe the moon landing was faked
~6% believe in mind-controlling "chem trails"
~7% believe the sun revolves around the earth
~9% believe in young earth and creationism
~14% believe vaccines cause autism
~19% believe Sandy Hook massacre was an inside job
~27% believe Climate Change is a hoax
~28% believe FEMA is building internment camps
~30% believe Obama is a Kenyan Muslim
~37% believe Al Qaeda was NOT responsible for 9-11

What bothers me that none of them think wrestling or National Enquirer articles are real, oh the dichotomy.

That's our average Trump supporter - angry, malleable, and ignorant.
"I expect death to be nothingness and by removing from me all possible fears of death, I am thankful to atheism." Isaac Asimov
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ledhead1969 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 21:25:
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 21:23:
ledhead1969 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 20:22:
The PC vids clearly show recoil. The guy misspoke. Blues message boards are cancer.
Spoken like Stage 4 ass cancee.(sic)

Thanks for proving my point. Keep stepping on the rake I'm putting in front of you.

<edit> Democrat hell-hole Chicago stat update:

June to Date
Shot & Killed: 55
Shot & Wounded: 217
Total Shot: 272
Total Homicides: 61

Fuckin' Obama
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Jun 22, 2017, 21:25
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 21:23:
ledhead1969 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 20:22:
The PC vids clearly show recoil. The guy misspoke. Blues message boards are cancer.
Spoken like Stage 4 ass cancee.(sic)

Thanks for proving my point. Keep stepping on the rake I'm putting in front of you.

<edit> Democrat hell-hole Chicago stat update:

June to Date
Shot & Killed: 55
Shot & Wounded: 217
Total Shot: 272
Total Homicides: 61
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ledhead1969 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 20:22:
The PC vids clearly show recoil. The guy misspoke. Blues message boards are cancer.
Spoken like Stage 4 ass cancer that has metastisized and spread to the brain.
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ledhead1969 wrote on Jun 22, 2017, 20:22:
The PC vids clearly show recoil. The guy misspoke. Blues message boards are cancer.

no dude - this shit is serious business!
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The PC vids clearly show recoil. The guy misspoke. Blues message boards are cancer.
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