Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 23:36:
Don't suppose you had your religion removed?

Sorry, couldn't resist! Whatever the situation, I hope you have a full recovery.

LOL. No problem. And thanks, me too!

BobBob wrote on Jun 8, 2017, 01:26:
Please don't become addicted to the painkillers.

Not a fan of them. They blur my thinking and make programming difficult. It's all good.

VaranDragon wrote on Jun 8, 2017, 06:02:

Blue wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 14:49:

VaranDragon wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 12:16:
Dogshit never hurt nobody. Yeah, it's a nuisance if you step in it, but it's pretty much gone after some rainfall. It's also completely biodegradable.

Well, no.

True, poop is not exactly an environmental threat on the order of carbon pollution, nuclear waste or a Superfund site. Still, the risk from poop can be more than just a mess on your shoes. Dogs can harbor lots of viruses, bacteria and parasites — including harmful pathogens like e coli, giardia and salmonella. (A single gram contains an estimated 23 million bacteria.) Studies have traced 20 to 30 percent of the bacteria in water samples from urban watersheds to dog waste. Just two to three days of waste from 100 dogs can contribute enough bacteria, nitrogen and phosphorous to close 20 miles of a bay-watershed to swimming and shellfishing, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. It also can get into the air we breathe: a recent study of air samples in Cleveland, Ohio, and Detroit, Mich., found that 10 to 50 percent of the bacteria came from dog poop.

Did you know that just 1 mg of HUMAN oral biomass (thats spit in translation) contains over 100 million microbes? Yes human spit, contains more microbes than dogshit.

These studies can be skewed to show pretty much anything. Yes poop contains bacteria. Duh. So does dirt. 10-50% of bacteria, came from dog poop? So is it 10% or 50%? What about the other 50% or is it 90%? See where Im going with this? Im sure that dog poop is kind of a problem in heavily populated human areas, but then again so is a shitload of other things. (Pun intended) You are not going to be digging drinking wells in New York, or Los Angeles, are you?Finally Doggie bags are a fairly recent invention, yet dogs and humans have coexisted for millenia. We are increasingly living in a bubble of our making, isolating ourselves from our natural habitat, replacing it with sterile living conditions, and no longer venturing out in nature. Dog shit is not going to be responsible for the downfall of humanity. Human waste is. And Im not talking about shit here.

Never let facts get in the way of an internet discussion. It's ok to be wrong, and if you can't admit that do the next best thing and walk away. But since you have chosen the shovel we hope you enjoy the workout and don't forget which way is up.

Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 23:36:
Don't suppose you had your religion removed?

That procedure is painless and when you wake up you feel better then ever.

Blue wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 14:49:

VaranDragon wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 12:16:
Dogshit never hurt nobody. Yeah, it's a nuisance if you step in it, but it's pretty much gone after some rainfall. It's also completely biodegradable.

Well, no.

True, poop is not exactly an environmental threat on the order of carbon pollution, nuclear waste or a Superfund site. Still, the risk from poop can be more than just a mess on your shoes. Dogs can harbor lots of viruses, bacteria and parasites — including harmful pathogens like e coli, giardia and salmonella. (A single gram contains an estimated 23 million bacteria.) Studies have traced 20 to 30 percent of the bacteria in water samples from urban watersheds to dog waste. Just two to three days of waste from 100 dogs can contribute enough bacteria, nitrogen and phosphorous to close 20 miles of a bay-watershed to swimming and shellfishing, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. It also can get into the air we breathe: a recent study of air samples in Cleveland, Ohio, and Detroit, Mich., found that 10 to 50 percent of the bacteria came from dog poop.

Did you know that just 1 mg of HUMAN oral biomass (thats spit in translation) contains over 100 million microbes? Yes human spit, contains more microbes than dogshit.

These studies can be skewed to show pretty much anything. Yes poop contains bacteria. Duh. So does dirt. 10-50% of bacteria, came from dog poop? So is it 10% or 50%? What about the other 50% or is it 90%? See where Im going with this? Im sure that dog poop is kind of a problem in heavily populated human areas, but then again so is a shitload of other things. (Pun intended) You are not going to be digging drinking wells in New York, or Los Angeles, are you?Finally Doggie bags are a fairly recent invention, yet dogs and humans have coexisted for millenia. We are increasingly living in a bubble of our making, isolating ourselves from our natural habitat, replacing it with sterile living conditions, and no longer venturing out in nature. Dog shit is not going to be responsible for the downfall of humanity. Human waste is. And Im not talking about shit here.

This comment was edited on Jun 8, 2017, 06:14.

Kxmode wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 22:57:
So glad to see Gunnar gets to hang out with a real-life, authentic Jedi!

In other news, I'm on day three of post-surgery and feeling better. The narcotics help, but I'm still sore.

Please don't become addicted to the painkillers.

Kxmode wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 22:57:
In other news, I'm on day three of post-surgery and feeling better. The narcotics help, but I'm still sore.

Don't suppose you had your religion removed?


Sorry, couldn't resist! Whatever the situation, I hope you have a full recovery.

So glad to see Gunnar gets to hang out with a real-life, authentic Jedi!

In other news, I'm on day three of post-surgery and feeling better. The narcotics help, but I'm still sore.

jdreyer wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 22:10:

BobBob wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 19:55:
"That thing"

Yeah some of those phrases could have come straight out of a mafia conversation.

"It" was a casino owner, until "it" ran them into the ground and sucked all the worth from them.
do you think the mafia is fond of casinos and real estate?

The only thing "it" ain't involved in is vending machines and waste disposal, so there's that.

BobBob wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 19:55:
"That thing"

Yeah some of those phrases could have come straight out of a mafia conversation.

Dacote wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 19:40:
This is priceless.
Opera versus tRump

Ha! Great, I was literally laughing out loud.

BobBob wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 19:07:
Wow so I'm looking to invest in a second property and I call a seller's realtor to check out a property I'm interested in .. one of his first questions was how old are you .. WTF? I get that in person a lot ... people don't believe my age, I often get told I look 10 to 15 years younger than I am. It's so annoying. /rant

Err.. shut up you old crab! Is that better?

Seriously though, it is a bit odd the first thing the realtor would ask you (especially over the phone) is your age. If you were asking about a specific property I'd expect an answer to that inquiry. Now, if you asked a more general question, I'd expect the first question to be what price range you were looking at.

"That thing"

Dacote wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 19:40:
An intelligent person keeping track of an idiot.
This is priceless.
Opera versus tRump

An intelligent person keeping track of an idiot.
This is priceless.
Opera versus tRump

Wow so I'm looking to invest in a second property and I call a seller's realtor to check out a property I'm interested in .. one of his first questions was how old are you .. WTF? I get that in person a lot ... people don't believe my age, I often get told I look 10 to 15 years younger than I am. It's so annoying. /rant

Blue wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 14:49:

VaranDragon wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 12:16:
Dogshit never hurt nobody. Yeah, it's a nuisance if you step in it, but it's pretty much gone after some rainfall. It's also completely biodegradable.

Well, no.

True, poop is not exactly an environmental threat on the order of carbon pollution, nuclear waste or a Superfund site. Still, the risk from poop can be more than just a mess on your shoes. Dogs can harbor lots of viruses, bacteria and parasites — including harmful pathogens like e coli, giardia and salmonella. (A single gram contains an estimated 23 million bacteria.) Studies have traced 20 to 30 percent of the bacteria in water samples from urban watersheds to dog waste. Just two to three days of waste from 100 dogs can contribute enough bacteria, nitrogen and phosphorous to close 20 miles of a bay-watershed to swimming and shellfishing, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. It also can get into the air we breathe: a recent study of air samples in Cleveland, Ohio, and Detroit, Mich., found that 10 to 50 percent of the bacteria came from dog poop.

America's dogs produce 10M tons of shit a year. Best not be leaving that shit out in the open.

Blue wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 14:49:

VaranDragon wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 12:16:
Dogshit never hurt nobody. Yeah, it's a nuisance if you step in it, but it's pretty much gone after some rainfall. It's also completely biodegradable.

Well, no.

True, poop is not exactly an environmental threat on the order of carbon pollution, nuclear waste or a Superfund site. Still, the risk from poop can be more than just a mess on your shoes. Dogs can harbor lots of viruses, bacteria and parasites — including harmful pathogens like e coli, giardia and salmonella. (A single gram contains an estimated 23 million bacteria.) Studies have traced 20 to 30 percent of the bacteria in water samples from urban watersheds to dog waste. Just two to three days of waste from 100 dogs can contribute enough bacteria, nitrogen and phosphorous to close 20 miles of a bay-watershed to swimming and shellfishing, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. It also can get into the air we breathe: a recent study of air samples in Cleveland, Ohio, and Detroit, Mich., found that 10 to 50 percent of the bacteria came from dog poop.

And like the article said, dog poop makes great compost.

Since I live 500 miles from the ocean and 100 mile from a stream that runs year round, I doubt my poop bags make it into the great plastic island in the ocean.

Poop from omnivoes/carnivores bad. Poop from herbivores good. That's why compost/manure you buy only comes from ruminants. Not to mention dogshit everywhere is disgusting. Just look at what Amsterdam used to be like.

VaranDragon wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 12:16:
Dogshit never hurt nobody. Yeah, it's a nuisance if you step in it, but it's pretty much gone after some rainfall. It's also completely biodegradable.

Well, no.

True, poop is not exactly an environmental threat on the order of carbon pollution, nuclear waste or a Superfund site. Still, the risk from poop can be more than just a mess on your shoes. Dogs can harbor lots of viruses, bacteria and parasites — including harmful pathogens like e coli, giardia and salmonella. (A single gram contains an estimated 23 million bacteria.) Studies have traced 20 to 30 percent of the bacteria in water samples from urban watersheds to dog waste. Just two to three days of waste from 100 dogs can contribute enough bacteria, nitrogen and phosphorous to close 20 miles of a bay-watershed to swimming and shellfishing, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. It also can get into the air we breathe: a recent study of air samples in Cleveland, Ohio, and Detroit, Mich., found that 10 to 50 percent of the bacteria came from dog poop.

VaranDragon wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 12:16:

BobBob wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 11:42:

VaranDragon wrote on Jun 7, 2017, 11:31:
While we are on the subject of doggie poop bags. I think a more environmentally damaging piece of plastic has yet to be invented. I only use them during the day when there are a lot of neighbors around. Or if my small mixed breed terrier/pinch mix takes a dump on the sidewalk, instead of the grass as she usually does. (It almost never happens).

I bet like 30% of plastic that ends up in the oceans are used doggie poop bags. If you eat fish, you might be ingesting microscopic pieces of poop bags.

Interesting point. They should make the bags out of paper, like lunch bags.

Paper is made out of trees. Or recycled paper. It's better than plastic but what's really needed is some common sense. Dogshit never hurt nobody. Yeah, it's a nuisance if you step in it, but it's pretty much gone after some rainfall. It's also completely biodegradable.

And it has such a yummy and tasty smell.