Out of the Blue

On Tuesday I mentioned how seasonably mild the spring has been so far in these parts. Yesterday it was 90-or-so degrees here. I'm tempted superstitiously decide that this was influenced by my words. But then there's yesterday when I complained about the ineptitude of my New York Knickerbockers. This is one of at least a dozen or so rants I've had on the topic over the years, and they haven't won a championship since 1973. So if my words have any power, it's only working in the wrong direction.

R.I.P.: Chris Cornell, Singer with Soundgarden and Audioslave, Dies at 52. Thanks David.
R.I.P.: Ex-Fox News head Roger Ailes dead: report. Thanks Devicer..

Links: Thanks Ant and Acleacius.
Play: Drift Runner 3D.
Story: Dutch King Willem-Alexander Reveals He Was KLM Pilot for 21 Years.
Science: Nasa: Humans Have Inadvertently Created Artificial Barrier Around Earth. NASA!
UC Davis- Nearly half California salmon at risk of extinction in 50 years.
New discovery shows T-rex’s bite could make bones ‘explode’.
Media: First Trailer: "Star Trek: Discovery." Thanks David.
Guy puts a camera into a bucket of water, desert creatures sneak sips.
Crash Test: 1998 vs 2015 Toyota Corolla.
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May 18, 2017, 09:12
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Damn that news made me sick. I was really looking forward to his new music. RIP Chris. I really hope this was not due to drugs.
"Yeah everyone's gotta have the sickness
Cause everyone seems to need the cure"
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May 18, 2017, 09:14
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May 18, 2017, 09:14
 

Ailes deserves no rest or peace.
“We’ve arranged a society on science and technology in which nobody understands anything about science and technology, and this combustible mixture of ignorance and power sooner or later is going to blow up in our faces." Carl Sagan
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May 18, 2017, 09:16
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Capella wrote on May 18, 2017, 09:12:
Damn that news made me sick. I was really looking forward to his new music. RIP Chris. I really hope this was not due to drugs.
Same here, RIP Chris
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May 18, 2017, 09:35
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Detroit police confirm to Billboard they are currently investigating his death as a possible suicide, though the cause of death remains unknown.

sounds like an overdose of some sort, if they suspect suicide but arent sure... gunshot/hanging/etc is pretty obvious - too much drugs is more ambiguous... but if they are looking into it, id assume they are already past "natural causes"
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May 18, 2017, 09:48
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One of the grunge greats, RIP Chris.
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May 18, 2017, 10:09
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May 18, 2017, 10:09
 
Ha! Good for the King of the Netherlands. I wonder how often someone engaged him in conversation at an airport without ever realizing they were talking to their King.
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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May 18, 2017, 10:31
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May 18, 2017, 10:31
 
Agent-Zero wrote on May 18, 2017, 09:35:
Detroit police confirm to Billboard they are currently investigating his death as a possible suicide, though the cause of death remains unknown.

sounds like an overdose of some sort, if they suspect suicide but arent sure... gunshot/hanging/etc is pretty obvious - too much drugs is more ambiguous... but if they are looking into it, id assume they are already past "natural causes"

He apparently did suffer from depression.

On another note, the Trek Trailer is really awful. Doesn't mean the series is going to be awful, but I dunno. Kind of gives me Abrams vibes, which is not good. I do like the look of the Klingons though, I hope they are more than just the boogeyman, and have depth just like in all the previous Trek TV series.
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May 18, 2017, 10:34
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May 18, 2017, 10:34
 
Discovery does have some high production values, but two things that irk the hell out of me. First it's centered around 1 character (the Commander), 2 it's based 10 years before TOS and yet looks more advanced then the last TNG movie tech wise.

Why can't we get a show based around Trek 2-5 time frame with those nice non-over the top ships and cool red uniforms?
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May 18, 2017, 11:14
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I just want to know why CBS thinks going backwards in the timeline is a good idea. I mean, they can't be looking at Enterprise and saying "yeah, that was awesome!". Just go forward...it gives you more options and more creative freedom and you don't have to worry about crossing the time streams and all that shit. They aren't worried about conflicting with STO are they?

The complaint about it appearing to be about one person is legit as far as I am concerned. If it isn't about one person than that teaser/trailer is even more shit than I thought it was. I mean, "The Orville" had a better trailer and it's a damn parody. Hopefully its just a piss poor trailer and the actual series will not be so individually focused.
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May 18, 2017, 11:17
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Very sad about Cornell, I was just listening to Like a Stone yesterday. His music was certainly part of the sound track of my teenage years.
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May 18, 2017, 11:22
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May 18, 2017, 11:22
 
Crash Test: 2009 Chevy Malibu vs 1959 Bel Air Doesn't go the way I thought it would.
“We’ve arranged a society on science and technology in which nobody understands anything about science and technology, and this combustible mixture of ignorance and power sooner or later is going to blow up in our faces." Carl Sagan
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May 18, 2017, 11:26
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VaranDragon wrote on May 18, 2017, 10:31:
He apparently did suffer from depression.

most musicians do, and thats one of the reasons performers do it in the first place, to get external validation.. and most artists in general are usually tormented in some way, which is why they are driven to be so creative and try to transform or avoid or distract from those feelings

also Cornell was a known addict.. hes been off an on for years

VaranDragon wrote on May 18, 2017, 10:31:
On another note, the Trek Trailer is really awful. Doesn't mean the series is going to be awful, but I dunno. Kind of gives me Abrams vibes, which is not good. I do like the look of the Klingons though, I hope they are more than just the boogeyman, and have depth just like in all the previous Trek TV series.

yeh it looks pretty bad... im also tired of all these assholes trying to take the easy way out with prequels - and bypassing any attempt to be inclusive to all the established lore and storylines of an established franchise, while still retaining the franchise fan base and world building thats already been done for them

frankly its bullshit and also doesnt bode well for quality work going forward

people can call me whatever for this, but i think its probably going to be a strongly female-centric show - as opposed to Voyager, which had a few female leads as well as the captain, but was basically just another ST show.... honestly I think the new "trendy" "hotness" is somehow trying to pander to the female sci-fi crowd, ala Star Wars and so on

personally i think pandering to any crowd is bullshit and a wrong move, so we'll see what happens...
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May 18, 2017, 11:32
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Well what did you expect? You knew the new ST was going to suck. You were just holding out hope that it might not. Let's face it, you'd need Spock or Data to calculate those odds that it'd be any good because they're so large. Probably like several hundred billion to one against.
On the other hand, Orville does look pretty entertaining.

And yeah, it's good to be the King!
"Van Gogh painted alone and in despair and in madness and sold one picture in his entire life. Millions struggled alone, unrecognized, and struggled as heroically as any famous hero. Was it worthless? I knew it wasn't."
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May 18, 2017, 11:37
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RedEye9 wrote on May 18, 2017, 11:22:
Crash Test: 2009 Chevy Malibu vs 1959 Bel Air Doesn't go the way I thought it would.

I've seen a few links for these new vs old car crashes, and I'm not a NASA Scientist, but the commentary in the videos make me want to say 'No fucking shit Sherlock'.
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May 18, 2017, 11:48
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Star Trek Discovery looks pretty good. I might sign up to CBS all access for one month to binge watch it, then cancel again. I'm sure roughly 99% of all Trek fans will probably do the same thing.
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May 18, 2017, 12:04
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Personally I can't imagine a more poorly put together series. On the other hand I thought Orville was at least funny.

CBS can shove their streaming vehicle up where the sun doesn't shine.

Just another network killing itself with a trashy streaming vehicle.

In 10 years it is very doubtful if any of these major networks will still be around. Local affiliates might survive, but the national programming will be only on major streaming services. The quality of network programming is getting worse by the year. All you have to do is look at what Netflix, Amazon and many of the other streaming services are doing, MUCH better shows.
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The Half Elf wrote on May 18, 2017, 10:34:
First it's centered around 1 character (the Commander)
Has CBS said that? Or is that just your impression from the clip? If the latter it would be pretty easy to take clips from all the Star Trek series and say they were about the Captain...
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Creston wrote on May 18, 2017, 11:48:
Star Trek Discovery looks pretty good.

Let's just hope it was written and produced by people who are actually Star Trek fans and have some respect for the lore. Im actually currently rewatching TOS (remastered edition), and Im really digging it. Sure it's quaint in the old 60s way, but I find that it just adds to the charm of the show.

Just watched the Gorn episode today. Man that stupid cannon is stupid as fuck, but still. What a great episode!
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May 18, 2017, 12:46
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Ozmodan wrote on May 18, 2017, 12:04:
The quality of network programming is getting worse by the year. All you have to do is look at what Netflix, Amazon and many of the other streaming services are doing, MUCH better shows.

To be fair to the networks, that as much because of regulations hampering what they can do as it is because of their own ineptitude.
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May 18, 2017, 13:03
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Creston wrote on May 18, 2017, 12:46:
Ozmodan wrote on May 18, 2017, 12:04:
The quality of network programming is getting worse by the year. All you have to do is look at what Netflix, Amazon and many of the other streaming services are doing, MUCH better shows.

To be fair to the networks, that as much because of regulations hampering what they can do as it is because of their own ineptitude.

Also a need to appeal to everyone, but especially everyone 18-34. A Netflix show, or a FX show, getting 3 million viewers is an enormous hit. Getting 1 million viewers is enough of a hit. Networks need to get 3 million 18-34 year olds. A show getting just 3 million viewers is a huge failure. So they can't be as niche or take as many risks as FX, because it needs viewers. Being too controversial and pushing anyone away is bad.

Breaking Bad is acknowledged as a huge hit, but it didn't break 2 million viewers until the Season 4 premier, and didn't do it again until the Season 5A premier. That's 45 episodes with under 2 million viewers. ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox can't survive on that. It more needs Season 5B numbers, which was weirdly double anything prior (with the finale being a 5X increase.) Mad Men peaked with an average of 2.61 viewers one season. These are insta-cancel numbers at networks.

Their hands are tied behind their backs. They're still multiple times larger than any of their competitors, even if they're shrinking. I mean, how many people are watching Bojack Horseman, or Wet Hot American Summer, to name two Netflix shows I'd rewatch a dozen times before watching a single show on networks not called Bob's Burgers (seriously, Bob's Burgers is the only network show I've watched since Community was canceled - when I see lists of what shows are going to be canceled I'm usually impressed if I've heard of even 10%. I love my pop culture bubble.)

Personally, I think networks need to consider shorter seasons. Less filler, and less risk. Part of why I started ignoring network TV, before even Netflix went streaming, was because it couldn't keep anything going. Some shows take a while to find their footing, and everything was trying to be Lost. But when it gets canceled after 15 episodes, or 18, or even 24, that's a double digit amount of hours you just wasted on something going nowhere. The lack of commitment to something not catching fire means no slow burn shows that increase in intensity and quality, and the focus on immediately popular ones that they mandate keep similar numbers means those shows are risk-adverse and don't grow.
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