"Game Engine Footage" my ass...

i wish they would do other settings with this formula

im not a fan of the star wars mythos, but these kinds of games are pretty cool

Is anyone excited for this game? Considering how EA screwed up the first with their $60 initial release that had maybe $15 worth of content and their grossly overpriced season pass garbage that added in what should have been included in the main game, I'd be surprised if even diehard Star Wars fans were not going into this one with at least a bit of skepticism.

Pre-Order Now and get the season pass for $99.99

The Half Elf wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 10:06:
Pre-Order Now and get the season pass for $99.99

It's only 95.99CDN from g2a w/free insurance.

VaranDragon wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 09:23:
"Game Engine Footage" my ass...

Visuals have never been an issue for EA's Battlefront. It's the content that's going to be the issue.

Prez wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 10:03:
Is anyone excited for this game? Considering how EA screwed up the first with their $60 initial release that had maybe $15 worth of content and their grossly overpriced season pass garbage that added in what should have been included in the main game, I'd be surprised if even diehard Star Wars fans were not going into this one with at least a bit of skepticism.

I'd categorize myself as a die hard fan, and I completely skipped the first one due to the above. I'm not holding my breath on this one either but it does look at least a bit more comprehensive from the teaser. The "untold soldier story" asserts at least some form of narrative and in that setting I can't get enough of that--it has good Rogue One vibe.

I have zero hopes that the space battle content will live up to my X-Wing/XvT expectations but oh well at least they're trying..

It really hurts to see such awesome trailers and then instantly realize that the real game will just be another gameplay-failure like the last one.
What would I give for a real successor of the old ones, improved in gameplay (imagine Jedi Knight-like controls for characters with a light saber in a game like this), or even a remake of X-Wing...

See, this is what drives me nuts about gamers today...you guys have no clue what's in the game at this point, only that it has a story underpinning and covers all three trilogies...and has 'heroes', like the first. The game could literally have everything you're all complaining about wanting but you don't know. Yet we'll complain anyway. I'm guilty of it too but I think that for this industry to return to what it was back in it's heyday, we need some optimism and enthusiasm. I'm not saying to go out and pre-order but maybe be a little excited about things. I constantly (constantly) hear people wanting another Tie Fighter, including myself, and this could be a big step to that. It looks like it's going to have more focus on space combat.

I have the smallest bit of hope that EA heard all the complaints about the first and is going to change it. And for once, I'm going to go in excited to see what they'll give us this time instead of grumbling about it. Will I be disappointed? Probably. But fuck, I'm tired of being down and negative about this shit all the time. The mood is always 80% 'It's gonna fail - hard!' and 20% 'Well it might rock'. We need to change that.

=-Rigs-=

Predictions that will make it shit:

- No custom or dedicated servers to keep game fresh (no ability to make a 1st person only mode, no heroes etc.)
- expensive season pass
- spawn tokens (no fun allowed for immersion, like walking up to a vehicle and entering cockpit in first person and taking off)
- AI spawn ships (cool ships like the TIE Avenger or TIE Defender shall be gated as AI spawns only (no fun allowed cock teasers)
- want to drive AT AT? Too bad, still on rails and you can wait in line to ride on like a rollercoaster. You must be THIS tall to ride.
- no dynamic conquest combat
- crappy single-player tack on story
- and much more

Also the story doesn't look like "rogue one" it looks like a "boo hoo, I'm an Imperial, let's still be an Imperial Empire" story.

Muscular Beaver wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 11:19:
It really hurts to see such awesome trailers and then instantly realize that the real game will just be another gameplay-failure like the last one.
What would I give for a real successor of the old ones, improved in gameplay (imagine Jedi Knight-like controls for characters with a light saber in a game like this), or even a remake of X-Wing...

I was really hoping for light saber duels like we had in Jedi Knight games, there was none of that, and their flight model was just a sacrilege to any X-Wing / Tie Fighter game...

I can't understand for the life of me why these game devs just can't give players what they want...

Wide open battlefields, tons of cool vehicles, and unlocks that are fun. Not unlocks that are needed to play the game (Wildlands sync shot).

Sad that I still play the original SW:Battlefront 2 more than any other SW game out today. Tons of maps, mods, you name it.

The main problem I see is that the first game sold REALLY well thanx to coming out near the movie, and this one also has that to ride behind.

So they probably don't have to make it a lot better than the first one...

Hopefully they will. Battlefield 1 was great, if they follow that template this could be really cool...but they're probably just going to make the game close to what they made last time...

Not going to get my hopes up.

Rigs wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 11:30:
See, this is what drives me nuts about gamers today...you guys have no clue what's in the game at this point, only that it has a story underpinning and covers all three trilogies...and has 'heroes', like the first. The game could literally have everything you're all complaining about wanting but you don't know. Yet we'll complain anyway. I'm guilty of it too but I think that for this industry to return to what it was back in it's heyday, we need some optimism and enthusiasm. I'm not saying to go out and pre-order but maybe be a little excited about things. I constantly (constantly) hear people wanting another Tie Fighter, including myself, and this could be a big step to that. It looks like it's going to have more focus on space combat.

I have the smallest bit of hope that EA heard all the complaints about the first and is going to change it. And for once, I'm going to go in excited to see what they'll give us this time instead of grumbling about it. Will I be disappointed? Probably. But fuck, I'm tired of being down and negative about this shit all the time. The mood is always 80% 'It's gonna fail - hard!' and 20% 'Well it might rock'. We need to change that.

=-Rigs-=

You are right, there is too much negativity going on and no company will ever make a game ever again that does 100% what 100% of the players want, you just have to pick the games that do what you want and ignore the rest.

Things will sort itself out then, no need for all the hate campaigns.

Rigs wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 11:30:
See, this is what drives me nuts about gamers today...you guys have no clue what's in the game at this point, only that it has a story underpinning and covers all three trilogies...and has 'heroes', like the first. The game could literally have everything you're all complaining about wanting but you don't know. Yet we'll complain anyway. I'm guilty of it too but I think that for this industry to return to what it was back in it's heyday, we need some optimism and enthusiasm. I'm not saying to go out and pre-order but maybe be a little excited about things. I constantly (constantly) hear people wanting another Tie Fighter, including myself, and this could be a big step to that. It looks like it's going to have more focus on space combat.

I have the smallest bit of hope that EA heard all the complaints about the first and is going to change it. And for once, I'm going to go in excited to see what they'll give us this time instead of grumbling about it. Will I be disappointed? Probably. But fuck, I'm tired of being down and negative about this shit all the time. The mood is always 80% 'It's gonna fail - hard!' and 20% 'Well it might rock'. We need to change that.

Nah, there are plenty of cheerleading avenues for games already, they have full on PR departments and whole community websites surrounding them. There is no need to change anything, people have every right to be cynical about the gaming industry if that's what they want to do. This sub-franchise in particular was a big disappointment to many people so they have historical precedent for their concern. Feel free to praise it up to the stars, you're entitled to your opinion like everyone else but no one else needs to change anything.

Bitch on gamers, keep the industry honest IMO

1) DICE has never once released a game trailer with pre-rendered cinematics, even going back to BF1942, it's all in-engine footage.

2) The "lack of content" argument for Battlefront 1 is stupid. There are 7 large maps, and 14 small maps in the vanilla game. The 14 small maps were NOT just pulled as a section from the big maps, like in Battlefield. This is the main point that no one seems to understand. The small maps were %100 original unique maps MADE for infantry-only combat. Instead of just ripping a section of the big maps, placing a bunch of "space shipping containers", and calling it TDM. So there are 21 UNIQUE maps in vanilla Battlefront. How is that lacking content exactly? this is not counting the DLC maps.

Sure, some of them dropped after launch, but they're still there. Sure there's no SP campaign, but can you blame them? in BF3 and BF4 hardly anyone played the SP campaigns... You know much much work was put into just the aircraft carrier breaking apart in BF4? Massive amounts of work that probably less than 10% of players ever saw. (at least according to people I know that played those games). I admit I'd rather have a Star Wars SP campaign than BF, but come on, it's DICE, let's be honest, they do MP.

Rigs wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 11:30:
See, this is what drives me nuts about gamers today...you guys have no clue what's in the game at this point, only that it has a story underpinning and covers all three trilogies...and has 'heroes', like the first. The game could literally have everything you're all complaining about wanting but you don't know. Yet we'll complain anyway. I'm guilty of it too but I think that for this industry to return to what it was back in it's heyday, we need some optimism and enthusiasm. I'm not saying to go out and pre-order but maybe be a little excited about things. I constantly (constantly) hear people wanting another Tie Fighter, including myself, and this could be a big step to that. It looks like it's going to have more focus on space combat.

I have the smallest bit of hope that EA heard all the complaints about the first and is going to change it. And for once, I'm going to go in excited to see what they'll give us this time instead of grumbling about it. Will I be disappointed? Probably. But fuck, I'm tired of being down and negative about this shit all the time. The mood is always 80% 'It's gonna fail - hard!' and 20% 'Well it might rock'. We need to change that.

=-Rigs-=

You don't think maybe the cynicism is the result of an endless tirade of unoriginal, formulaic, consolized, politically correct garbage originating from today's publishing houses?

Case in point; Mass Effect: Andromeda.

From a business perspective it's understandable. It all comes down to money and that's not guaranteed when the IP (or genre) is a risk, but that doesn't alter the fact most of what is produced is just rehashed garbage. The gaming industry has become an extension of Hollywood and that's not a compliment.


RE: Tie Fighter (and X-Wing vs Tie Fighter) - like good Ridley Scott and James Cameron movies - is best left buried in the annals of quality gaming history.

Task wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 11:39:
Predictions that will make it shit:

- expensive season pass

EXPENSIVE HOW? MORE EXPENSIVE THAN EVERY OTHER SEASON PASS? HMMM, NO.

- spawn tokens (no fun allowed for immersion, like walking up to a vehicle and entering cockpit in first person and taking off)

SO YOU'D RATHER HAVE PEOPLE BE TAKEN OUT OF COMBAT TO RUN ACROSS THE MAP TO MAYBE GET IN AN X-WING? WOULDN'T IT KEEP THE GAMEPLAY MORE FOCUSED IF EVERYONE WAS KEPT IN THE FIGHT?

- want to drive AT AT? Too bad, still on rails and you can wait in line to ride on like a rollercoaster. You must be THIS tall to ride.

LOL, SO AVOIDING THE FACT THAT THIS IS WHAT THE ENTIRE GAME MODE REVOLVES AROUND... I GUESS YOU COULD JUST SPAWN IN THE AT-AT AND SPRINT TO THE END OF THE MAP AND WIN...?

- no dynamic conquest combat

IT'S NOT BATTLEFIELD

- crappy single-player tack on story

IT'S FUNNY, WITH BATTLEFRONT 1 EVERYONE BITCHED THAT THERE WAS NO SP, NOW YOU THINK IT'LL PROBABLY HAVE ONE, BUT BE GARBAGE. NICE.

Also the story doesn't look like "rogue one" it looks like a "boo hoo, I'm an Imperial, let's still be an Imperial Empire" story.

PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE UNKNOWN STAR WARS PLOT.

The Half Elf wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 10:51:

VaranDragon wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 09:23:
"Game Engine Footage" my ass...

Visuals have never been an issue for EA's Battlefront. It's the content that's going to be the issue.

QFT.

So sad. Dice games used to be something so greatly anticipated.

jdreyer wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 13:19:

The Half Elf wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 10:51:

VaranDragon wrote on Apr 12, 2017, 09:23:
"Game Engine Footage" my ass...

Visuals have never been an issue for EA's Battlefront. It's the content that's going to be the issue.

QFT.

So sad. Dice games used to be something so greatly anticipated.

Battlefield 1 was pretty good though. For a month or two which was plenty of game time for the money.