KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumors

SWGameOutpost has a word of a premium Patreon rumor (of all things) suggesting BioWare is currently prototyping a KOTOR reboot (thanks GameSpot). This comes from Liam Robertson of Unseen64 and Did You Know Gaming, and IBT highlights another tidbit from the same podcast, discussing a new IP codenamed "Dylan" (thanks VG247). "Dylan is, from what I understand, a sci-fi themed game, it is sort of Destiny-style, takes some elements from The Division, it has like MMO elements," he explains. "Someone described it as a 'semi-MMO'. I don't know much more than that... it is a huge scale project, perhaps the biggest BioWare has ever done. It's bigger than Mass Effect Andromeda, considerably so. It will have co-op." Back to the first rumor, here's a transcript of the KOTOR bit:
"I’ve learned now that [BioWare Austin is] pretty much now exclusively working on Star Wars games and they’re going to be doing that for the indefinite future," he said during a podcast segment. "What they’re currently working on right now—and I have this on good authority—is a sort of remake/revival of Knights of the Old Republic. I don’t know when this is set to come out, but it has been in development for a little while now."
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Re: Out of the Blue
Apr 11, 2017, 10:16
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If true, hopefully this is where the actual talent was while the C team worked on ME:A
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Re: Out of the Blue
Apr 11, 2017, 10:29
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Re: Out of the Blue Apr 11, 2017, 10:29
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Old school Bioware is long gone. Whatever they make will be mass marketable mediocrity.

The fact that they think a semi-MMO is a good idea is enough of warning sign to me.

*Pours out a 40oz* So long, Bioware. I'll always remember BG1/2, DA:O.
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor
Apr 11, 2017, 10:40
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor Apr 11, 2017, 10:40
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The phrases "semi-MMO" and "Destiny-style" just turned this radar blip into an unimportant anomaly. If they can't do KoToR 3 properly without introducing a bunch of grinding casual filler, then my fucks to give are quickly running out when it comes to "BioWare" products. It being 'bigger' than Andromeda also is a poor selling point when all that amounts to is wastes of space and the trashy MMO quests that go with them.

Now - whatever Edmonton is doing in secret, that's the only Bioware thing I have left to be curious about.

This comment was edited on Apr 11, 2017, 11:07.
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor
Apr 11, 2017, 10:45
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor Apr 11, 2017, 10:45
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RPG with coop focus usually means shit story...
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Apr 11, 2017, 10:48
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor Apr 11, 2017, 10:48
Apr 11, 2017, 10:48
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor
Apr 11, 2017, 10:56
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor Apr 11, 2017, 10:56
Apr 11, 2017, 10:56
 
Task wrote on Apr 11, 2017, 10:40:
The phrases "semi-MMO" and "Destiny-style" just turned this radar blip into an unimportant anomaly. If they can't do KoToR 3 properly without introducing a bunch of grinding casual filler, then my fucks to give are quickly running out when it comes to "BioWare" products. It being 'bigger' than Andromeda also is a poor selling point when all that amounts to is wastes of space and the trashy MMO quests that go with them.

Now - whatever Edmonton doing is doing in secret, that's the only Bioware thing I have left to be curious about.

I think those mmo-things are discussing a different IP/game:

another tidbit from the same podcast, discussing a new IP codenamed "Dylan"

Sadly I don't hold much hope for the KOTOR-reboot either. The fantastic team that made that game is long gone. Or maybe we'll all be pleasantly surprised? It's sad that so many of us are pessimistic of rebooted IPs right out the gate, we should give the game a chance, but I refuse to let myself be hyped anymore by brand name recognition.
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Apr 11, 2017, 11:08
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor Apr 11, 2017, 11:08
Apr 11, 2017, 11:08
 
Then "Dylan" is probably the Edmonton IP. Just a guess though.
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor
Apr 11, 2017, 11:30
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor Apr 11, 2017, 11:30
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"Destiny-style, takes some elements for the Division, MMO elements, semi-MMO."

How reassuring. LoL.
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor
Apr 11, 2017, 12:18
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor Apr 11, 2017, 12:18
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VaranDragon wrote on Apr 11, 2017, 11:30:
"Destiny-style, takes some elements for the Division, MMO elements, semi-MMO."

How reassuring. LoL.

So basically ME:A with lightsabers.

You know you swung and missed when even Penny Arcade pans your game. I mean, if they buy into an IP, you have to turn out sacks of liquid crap to turn them off.

https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2017/04/10/comprehensive
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Apr 11, 2017, 12:31
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor Apr 11, 2017, 12:31
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I hope they go back to making a slightly more linear and personal story. Less, better written characters with a focus on player choice. Semi turn-based tactical combat with deep character customisation. No fetch quests or crafting.

From what I saw in that statement, this will be nothing like that. Derp.
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Apr 11, 2017, 12:33
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Flatline wrote on Apr 11, 2017, 12:18:
You know you swung and missed when even Penny Arcade pans your game. I mean, if they buy into an IP, you have to turn out sacks of liquid crap to turn them off.

https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2017/04/10/comprehensive

Yeah, I read that PA post as well. Those guys are really nice, and they rarely bash games, especially ones from their favorite IPs (which include ME). But they really do not like ME:A at all.
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Apr 11, 2017, 13:01
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eRe4s3r wrote on Apr 11, 2017, 10:45:
RPG with coop focus usually means shit story...

Thats your opinion, and its shit! Myself and many of my friends happen to love Coop games like this. It defiantly something I will be keeping an eye out for.
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor
Apr 11, 2017, 13:55
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor Apr 11, 2017, 13:55
Apr 11, 2017, 13:55
 
"Rumors of new KOTOR..."

[my face lights up]

"...reboot with co-op."

[I am swallowing vomit]
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Apr 11, 2017, 14:19
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007Bistromath wrote on Apr 11, 2017, 13:55:
"Rumors of new KOTOR..."

[my face lights up]

"...reboot with co-op."

[I am swallowing vomit]

A lot of poor reading comprehension in here today... Settle your tum-tum, the KOTOR reboot is a SEPARATE PROJECT than the new sci-fi IP described as Destiny-style semi-MMO with co-op.

Though it does make you wonder why BioWare wants to juggle at least three different sci-fi IPs. What's gonna distinguish this new one from Mass Effect and Star Wars?
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Apr 11, 2017, 14:42
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor Apr 11, 2017, 14:42
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Darks wrote on Apr 11, 2017, 13:01:
eRe4s3r wrote on Apr 11, 2017, 10:45:
RPG with coop focus usually means shit story...

Thats your opinion, and its shit! Myself and many of my friends happen to love Coop games like this. It defiantly something I will be keeping an eye out for.

What? Whether you like coop games or not has absolutely nothing to do with their story being usually shit.... and all coop supporting games I ever played, except BG2 (but that was not really COOP) ... had a bad story. And if you wanna argue against that, let me just say this. You would argue that NWN 1 OC was a good story, and that would make you look pretty damn insane. ;p

The only good CO-OP RPG's I played were NWN1 fan modules....
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Apr 11, 2017, 15:06
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumor Apr 11, 2017, 15:06
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Zero fucks given indeed.

They are going to casualize the living fuck out of a Star Wars "RPG" (let's face it... like SWBF is a dumbed down reskin of BF they would dumb down MEA even further -if that is even possible- and reskin that shit).

The original KotOR was one of the most boring crap RPGs ever. Everything except for the plot twist was a snorefest of galactic proportions. It is easily the most overrated RPG in history.

It was also among the first games to illustrate in full force how the Shitbox is holding back PC gaming big time. The graphics, UI and inventory were ridiculously shitty on the PC and the stamp size of the levels was a necessity because of the 8KB of RAM on the fucking first Shitbox.

I was (once again) ready to drop bombs on Redmond when I got to the "vast and dangerous" deserts of Tatooine which were about the size of the sandbox for toddlers behind my house. Fuckin' A, man...

Oh, and please fuck off with the Old Republic setting already. This garbage might have been a necessity when Lucas was super anal retentive about anything interfering with his glorious lore but now that that clown is gone let's have some games set during known timeframes from the movies instead of that boring ancient shit where all that ever happens is that the pendulum swings either in the Sith or the Jedi direction.
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Re: KOTOR Reboot & New BioWare IP Rumors
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Since KOTOR defined the development of SWTOR, now they want to go back and change the original to fit the mmog. If the lore don't fit, go back and change it?
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Apr 11, 2017, 17:15
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Apr 11, 2017, 10:29:
Old school Bioware is long gone. Whatever they make will be mass marketable mediocrity.

The fact that they think a semi-MMO is a good idea is enough of warning sign to me.

*Pours out a 40oz* So long, Bioware. I'll always remember BG1/2, DA:O.

If news about a new KotOR came a years ago it would have been exciting, though the way EA/Bioware inevitably tacks on market features at the expense of a good game means no matter what they make, no matter how much I might have liked a past game in a series I have no excitement anymore about anything they might make.

Maybe one day I'll get pleasantly surprised, hah.

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Apr 11, 2017, 18:43
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I can't see them doing a reboot. The MMO's lore is directly tied to the original two games, and there's no sign of that shutting down anytime soon. They're not going to have a new game out that ret-con's a currently running MMO.

Also, nice chunks of the existing Old Republic lore have made it into canon status by showing up in the various animated series, and even Rogue 1.

If there really is a new Old Republic game on the way it's only level of reboot will be distancing itself from the original stories is my guess.

It's worth noting that any new Star Wars games EA publishes are 100% canon... so if this DOES happen...
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