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23. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 27, 2017, 01:21 killer_roach
 
jacobvandy wrote on Mar 25, 2017, 16:38:
Pfft, there are only 4 states that have yet to make Amazon and other e-tailers collect sales tax. A handful of others don't have sales tax to begin with. So yeah, the holiday is finally over... for 2% of Americans. Lazy bums!

Actually, after April 1 Amazon still will not collect sales taxes in five states... because those states don't have sales taxes. (Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon - interestingly, Amazon has physical presence in only two of those states... the latter two.)
 
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22. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 26, 2017, 16:10 jdreyer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 15:13:
Ahh, a little Googling explains your confusion. Found a site listing the best and worst states for real estate taxes and it has Illinois as second worst at 2.38% I'm guessing they are talking about just the "state tax" and not including the local county and city taxes. I'm also guessing there are places worse than my effective 3.23% against real cash value rate.

Yeah, that explains it. It does seem high to me though. That really sucks.
 
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21. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 26, 2017, 16:08 jdreyer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 14:45:
jdreyer wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 13:19:
Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 10:59:
Creston wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 10:54:
Last I checked, sales tax was 21% in the Netherlands, so it could always be significantly worse.
21% eh? I wonder how their real estate taxes are.. I'm paying $500 a month on my $180k house which is fairly obnoxious considering my mortgage payment is $580 a month,
That doesn't sound right. The highest property taxes in the USA are 2%, so you'd pay $3600 per year for your house, or about $300 per month.
Unfortunately, it is correct. I pulled out the receipt from last year to verify my memory:

Estimated Fair Cash Value (EFCV): $183,798
Total tax: $5,938.48

The tax rate is applied against an "equalized value" which is slightly more than one third the EFCV minus a $6,000 primary residence deduction. The rate applied against that amount is .107464. An effective rate against the EFCV of 3.23%.

Ouch.
 
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20. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 26, 2017, 15:13 Mr. Tact
 
Ahh, a little Googling explains your confusion. Found a site listing the best and worst states for real estate taxes and it has Illinois as second worst at 2.38% I'm guessing they are talking about just the "state tax" and not including the local county and city taxes. I'm also guessing there are places worse than my effective 3.23% against real cash value rate.  
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19. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 26, 2017, 14:45 Mr. Tact
 
jdreyer wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 13:19:
Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 10:59:
Creston wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 10:54:
Last I checked, sales tax was 21% in the Netherlands, so it could always be significantly worse.
21% eh? I wonder how their real estate taxes are.. I'm paying $500 a month on my $180k house which is fairly obnoxious considering my mortgage payment is $580 a month,
That doesn't sound right. The highest property taxes in the USA are 2%, so you'd pay $3600 per year for your house, or about $300 per month.
Unfortunately, it is correct. I pulled out the receipt from last year to verify my memory:

Estimated Fair Cash Value (EFCV): $183,798
Total tax: $5,938.48

The tax rate is applied against an "equalized value" which is slightly more than one third the EFCV minus a $6,000 primary residence deduction. The rate applied against that amount is .107464. An effective rate against the EFCV of 3.23%.

This comment was edited on Mar 26, 2017, 15:07.
 
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18. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 26, 2017, 13:19 jdreyer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 10:59:
Creston wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 10:54:
Last I checked, sales tax was 21% in the Netherlands, so it could always be significantly worse.
21% eh? I wonder how their real estate taxes are.. I'm paying $500 a month on my $180k house which is fairly obnoxious considering my mortgage payment is $580 a month,

That doesn't sound right. The highest property taxes in the USA are 2%, so you'd pay $3600 per year for your house, or about $300 per month.
 
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17. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 26, 2017, 10:59 Mr. Tact
 
Creston wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 10:54:
Last I checked, sales tax was 21% in the Netherlands, so it could always be significantly worse.
21% eh? I wonder how their real estate taxes are.. I'm paying $500 a month on my $180k house which is fairly obnoxious considering my mortgage payment is $580 a month,
 
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16. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 26, 2017, 10:54 Creston
 
ForgedReality wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 01:38:
Dirwulf wrote on Mar 25, 2017, 23:35:
Sempai wrote on Mar 25, 2017, 22:28:
As far as i'm aware Amazon doesn't have a presence here in Utah, and we're paying tax on every transaction.. How does that work?

You can blame your local government for that:

"Effective January 1, 2017, the Internet sales behemoth will begin collecting Utahís state sales tax. Itís part of an agreement between Amazon and the Utah State Tax Commission. Amazon will collect both Utahís 4.7 percent sales tax rate and local option sales taxes, the commission has said. "

FOUR POINT SEVEN?! And you're complaining?! It's more than double that here. >:/

Last I checked, sales tax was 21% in the Netherlands, so it could always be significantly worse.
 
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15. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 26, 2017, 04:44 El Pit
 
I guess the tax money will go to CIG because Star Citizen will be supported and hosted by Amazon...

Okay, okay, I admit it: troll bait!
 
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14. No subject Mar 26, 2017, 03:09 Mashiki Amiketo
 
ForgedReality wrote on Mar 26, 2017, 01:38:

FOUR POINT SEVEN?! And you're complaining?! It's more than double that here. >:/
It's 13% here. Welcome to Ontario.
 
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13. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 26, 2017, 01:38 ForgedReality
 
Dirwulf wrote on Mar 25, 2017, 23:35:
Sempai wrote on Mar 25, 2017, 22:28:
As far as i'm aware Amazon doesn't have a presence here in Utah, and we're paying tax on every transaction.. How does that work?

You can blame your local government for that:

"Effective January 1, 2017, the Internet sales behemoth will begin collecting Utahís state sales tax. Itís part of an agreement between Amazon and the Utah State Tax Commission. Amazon will collect both Utahís 4.7 percent sales tax rate and local option sales taxes, the commission has said. "

FOUR POINT SEVEN?! And you're complaining?! It's more than double that here. >:/
 
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12. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 26, 2017, 01:26 jdreyer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 25, 2017, 16:09:
It will be interesting to see how it affects their sales, assuming Amazon tells us. I never bought anything there simply to avoid tax, but it was always a nice bonus. This change will not affect my purchase habits.

Yeah, it's the convenience of ordering online and not having to deal with crowds and driving.
 
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11. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 26, 2017, 01:21 jdreyer
 
The holiday is over: Amazon will collect sales taxes nationwide on April 1.

Ha, ha. Nice try, but I'm not fooled that easily.

(JDreyer orders a bunch of shit just in case)
 
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10. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 25, 2017, 23:35 Dirwulf
 
Sempai wrote on Mar 25, 2017, 22:28:
As far as i'm aware Amazon doesn't have a presence here in Utah, and we're paying tax on every transaction.. How does that work?

You can blame your local government for that:

"Effective January 1, 2017, the Internet sales behemoth will begin collecting Utahís state sales tax. Itís part of an agreement between Amazon and the Utah State Tax Commission. Amazon will collect both Utahís 4.7 percent sales tax rate and local option sales taxes, the commission has said. "
 
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9. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 25, 2017, 22:28 Sempai
 
As far as i'm aware Amazon doesn't have a presence here in Utah, and we're paying tax on every transaction.. How does that work?  
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8. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 25, 2017, 20:05 Flatline
 
If this is anything like how Amazon is working with CA this is only on amazon products. If you do a "Shipped from Amazon" 3rd party purchase, you still don't pay tax at the time of purchase.  
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7. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 25, 2017, 18:18 1badmf
 
you can still avoid paying tax by looking for smaller retailers that don't have a physical presence in your state. i tend to avoid newegg unless they have unbeatable deals since they're based in cali. this is still true if you buy off amazon marketplace as long as the seller is out of state. i bought an $800 monitor off marketplace last xmas and paid no tax on it.  
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6. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 25, 2017, 17:20 RedEye9
 
For pc parts I save 8% w/newegg, nothing else changed since amazon has a brick & mortar in tx.  
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5. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 25, 2017, 17:09 Creston
 
In OK, we've had to pay tax on Amazon sales for years, but always with work from my end. Fuck that noise. If you want me to pay tax on shit, add it into the price and let the seller deal with sending that to the government. You know, the way it works EVERYWHERE.
 
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4. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Mar 25, 2017, 16:38 jacobvandy
 
Pfft, there are only 4 states that have yet to make Amazon and other e-tailers collect sales tax. A handful of others don't have sales tax to begin with. So yeah, the holiday is finally over... for 2% of Americans. Lazy bums!  
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