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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 09:28
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 09:28
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That's below the poverty line in SF, it will get better when tweeter turns a profit.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 09:42
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 09:42
Mar 1, 2017, 09:42
 
The Twitter worker lives in an "ultra cheap" house with his wife and kids in the city that only charges $3,000 rent per month.

So the other ~110K of your salary isn't enough for you to pay bills and buy food? Die in a fire.

And that "digital marketer" who makes more than a million with her husband, but "can't afford to buy a house"... No, you can't afford to buy the house you WANT. Welcome to this thing called LIFE.

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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 09:45
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 09:45
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Some people need to get smarter about these things. If its to pricey and you can barely stay afloat, move. Might pay less but in the end you might take home a lot more depending on the location. Or if anything maybe you will find something else that pays considerably more.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 09:49
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 09:49
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Creston wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 09:42:
The Twitter worker lives in an "ultra cheap" house with his wife and kids in the city that only charges $3,000 rent per month.

So the other ~110K of your salary isn't enough for you to pay bills and buy food? Die in a fire.

Pending medical and exact taxes he's probably bringing home 65% of his pay after (401k, medical, fed taxes, state taxes, etc), so roughly 104k, 36k in rent later your down to 68k of usable income.

Don't live over there so not sure what premiums food, gas, car, etc is paid to buy/use over there so yeah I could see it being expensive, then again I'm sure they are eating out, and pissing away a lot of money doing other things (pricey loans on cars for instance). School loans might not be cheap depending on his age.

It adds up and not saying hes making ends meat by any means but I know its not cheap living in the big cities.


Creston wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 09:42:
And that "digital marketer" who makes more than a million with her husband, but "can't afford to buy a house"... No, you can't afford to buy the house you WANT. Welcome to this thing called LIFE.

Laughed at that part. More like piss poor management of money.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 10:26
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 10:26
Mar 1, 2017, 10:26
 
The first problem here: Living in San Francisco.

I lived in Santa Clara for a year, and let me tell you, that's one expensive place to live.

*However* I'm looking on Craigslist right now, and am finding plenty of room for rent options in San Francisco proper around the $1200 range.
If you're single, you really don't need more than that.

And if you want to raise a family in a house... do it someplace cheaper. The SF Bay area is a place to work hard, earn a lot of money, burn out from all the hours, and leave for someplace cheaper and with shorter work days.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 12:00
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 12:00
Mar 1, 2017, 12:00
 
dude is just pissed he cant live like all the other rich assholes he works with - because they have made a joint effort to rate hike the city so far that only a certain percentage CAN live like that... its all by design - because super rich assholes only want to hang out with super rich assholes and live in a place that is sanitized from all other "lesser citizens"

trust me - there are plenty of places to live within 20 minutes drive time (no traffic) that are well within standard USA living costs, and he could easily fit into any of those fancy little suburbs with no problems

hes just pissed he cant live the jetset hipster lifestyle of the fashionably rich BOO FUCKING HOO
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 12:01
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 12:01
Mar 1, 2017, 12:01
 
It never ceases to amaze me. All these people want to live in the big, cool city...just like several million other people...and then bitch about everything being so expensive. It's a big country. Plenty of places with a low cost of living where you can still make good money. All their woes are entirely self-made.

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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 13:04
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 13:04
Mar 1, 2017, 13:04
 
Clearly, this twitter engineer has a much higher style of living than is needed, and he is unwilling to give that up.

Time to cut back on the steak dinners, 50 dollar a day bar tabs, 50 dollar a day starbucks tabs, and complete lack of a structured budget plan for luxury items.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 13:48
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 13:48
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Cutter wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 12:01:
It never ceases to amaze me. All these people want to live in the big, cool city...just like several million other people...and then bitch about everything being so expensive. It's a big country. Plenty of places with a low cost of living where you can still make good money. All their woes are entirely self-made.


Yeah, but those places aren't cool. Plus, you might have to live around *gasp* Trump supporters...
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 14:31
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 14:31
Mar 1, 2017, 14:31
 
dubfanatic wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 13:48:
Cutter wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 12:01:
It never ceases to amaze me. All these people want to live in the big, cool city...just like several million other people...and then bitch about everything being so expensive. It's a big country. Plenty of places with a low cost of living where you can still make good money. All their woes are entirely self-made.


Yeah, but those places aren't cool. Plus, you might have to live around *gasp* Trump supporters...

That's another thing. So many corporations are in big cities that have absolutely no need to be there. They could be doing themselves and their employees a massive favor by relocating to cheaper places.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 14:34
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I used to live in the SF Bay Area and it was too expensive for my wife and I to start a family there, so we moved to San Diego. That was great until our family grew, and we couldn't afford a house big enough while still being in a good school district. So we moved to Austin, which is just about perfect other than the state officials who want the story of Noah's Ark taught in History class.

Bottom line is, if it's too expensive where you're at, simply move! There are tech jobs everywhere.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 14:35
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Mar 1, 2017, 14:35
 
Cutter wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 14:31:
dubfanatic wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 13:48:
Cutter wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 12:01:
It never ceases to amaze me. All these people want to live in the big, cool city...just like several million other people...and then bitch about everything being so expensive. It's a big country. Plenty of places with a low cost of living where you can still make good money. All their woes are entirely self-made.


Yeah, but those places aren't cool. Plus, you might have to live around *gasp* Trump supporters...

That's another thing. So many corporations are in big cities that have absolutely no need to be there. They could be doing themselves and their employees a massive favor by relocating to cheaper places.

This is beyond wrong-headed.

1) They're near cities because people are near cities. It's easier to find employees when many people are around. You won't find many qualified engineers in Peoria, but you'll find an abundance of them in Seattle and San Francisco

2) The work force doesn't *want* to be there. Assuming most highly skilled employees are already employed, it would be nearly impossible to convince many to move outside of a big city. Look at how many companies have been moving back to big cities, or opening satellite offices. Read any article about how the companies that moved outside of Chicago 30 years ago now struggle to get new hires to commute 1 hour to those places, because those new hires are unwilling to move outside of the big city
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 16:55
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 16:55
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Beamer wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 14:35:
This is beyond wrong-headed.

1) They're near cities because people are near cities. It's easier to find employees when many people are around. You won't find many qualified engineers in Peoria, but you'll find an abundance of them in Seattle and San Francisco

2) The work force doesn't *want* to be there. Assuming most highly skilled employees are already employed, it would be nearly impossible to convince many to move outside of a big city. Look at how many companies have been moving back to big cities, or opening satellite offices. Read any article about how the companies that moved outside of Chicago 30 years ago now struggle to get new hires to commute 1 hour to those places, because those new hires are unwilling to move outside of the big city
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 16:55
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$36,000 for rent doesn't explain where the remaining $124,000 goes. Even if you include essentials, there's no way someone making that much cannot meet their financial obligations in the Bay area (regardless of how expensive it is to live there). The only way they are barely scraping by is if they're living out of their means or without a budget. Except the very wealthy, constantly dining at expensive restaurants and taking in expensive entertainment is going to kill anyone's checking account. Not all, but many making $160K tend to live lifestyles that never bring them contentment. They always have to keep up with their neighbors. They always have to spend on things. They consume material things. There are plenty of people making ends meet on significantly less.

The only thing that came to my mind while reading this was #OnePercentFirstWorldProblems

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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 17:41
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Dman20 wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 09:49:
Pending medical and exact taxes he's probably bringing home 65% of his pay after (401k, medical, fed taxes, state taxes, etc), so roughly 104k, 36k in rent later your down to 68k of usable income.

68k after rent is paid isn't bad at all, over 5k clear a month.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 17:49
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 17:49
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The problem is that the people moving to the bay area have outstripped new housing 3 to 1.

I live in a similar market: the price of real estate here has tripled over the past 15 years due to no low to middle income housing being built. Only high-rises in the $1-2M per unit are being developed, so prices (and rents) have skyrocketed. Good if you got in when things were reasonable, shitty for everyone else.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 18:14
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Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 1, 2017, 18:14
Mar 1, 2017, 18:14
 
dubfanatic wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 13:48:
Cutter wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 12:01:
It never ceases to amaze me. All these people want to live in the big, cool city...just like several million other people...and then bitch about everything being so expensive. It's a big country. Plenty of places with a low cost of living where you can still make good money. All their woes are entirely self-made.


Yeah, but those places aren't cool. Plus, you might have to live around *gasp* Trump supporters...

Trump supporters? In the Bay Area? Besides Peter Thiel, I mean.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 18:20
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Mar 1, 2017, 18:20
 
Cutter wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 14:31:
dubfanatic wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 13:48:
Cutter wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 12:01:
It never ceases to amaze me. All these people want to live in the big, cool city...just like several million other people...and then bitch about everything being so expensive. It's a big country. Plenty of places with a low cost of living where you can still make good money. All their woes are entirely self-made.


Yeah, but those places aren't cool. Plus, you might have to live around *gasp* Trump supporters...

That's another thing. So many corporations are in big cities that have absolutely no need to be there. They could be doing themselves and their employees a massive favor by relocating to cheaper places.

Except that the high-end employees you need for that kind of work have expectations of a fun lifestyle that can't be had in Lincoln, Nebraska.

I know a pretty good developer who lived in Honolulu. While he liked the surf and sea, he got bored after a couple of years and got a new job in L.A. He's much happier there, being able to take road trips to Mexico and Tahoe, go to Lakers games, experience L.A. nightlife, etc. etc. Been there a decade now.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 18:24
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Mar 1, 2017, 18:24
 
jdreyer wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 18:14:
dubfanatic wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 13:48:
Cutter wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 12:01:
It never ceases to amaze me. All these people want to live in the big, cool city...just like several million other people...and then bitch about everything being so expensive. It's a big country. Plenty of places with a low cost of living where you can still make good money. All their woes are entirely self-made.


Yeah, but those places aren't cool. Plus, you might have to live around *gasp* Trump supporters...

Trump supporters? In the Bay Area? Besides Peter Thiel, I mean.
I think what he meant was your neighbors are more likely going to be supporters of the orange twitter troll if you move to an area with a lower cost of living.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Mar 1, 2017, 18:26
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HorrorScope wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 17:41:
Dman20 wrote on Mar 1, 2017, 09:49:
Pending medical and exact taxes he's probably bringing home 65% of his pay after (401k, medical, fed taxes, state taxes, etc), so roughly 104k, 36k in rent later your down to 68k of usable income.

68k after rent is paid isn't bad at all, over 5k clear a month.

Yeah, what's he doing, paying $2K a month for his kids to attend private school?
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