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There can be a bit of irony in fixing up your house to sell it. In our case, some of the warts we are fixing were here when we moved in. The contractor is about halfway though fixing up the bathroom in my office. And this makes it nicer than it was the whole time I used it, and this is counting the fact that the plumbing isn't hooked up yet. So yeah, a half-tiled room with plaster dust everywhere would have been an upgrade. On the optimistic side, we're taking pride in leaving the house in better shape than we found it, and arguably at least as good as it was when it was first built almost 90 years ago.

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27. Blue's Old House Feb 26, 2017, 16:04 Ant
 
Got any photos of the old pad?  
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Ant's Quality Foraged Links (http://aqfl.net) & The Ant Farm (http://antfarm.ma.cx / http://antfarm.home.dhs.org).
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26. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 22, 2017, 17:53 1badmf
 
BobBob wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 12:54:
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 12:05:
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 11:37:
Nice, girlfriend ordered this laptop and instead of 128GB SSD/12GB RAM they somehow shipped her a 512GB/32GB version. I made sure we selected the one direct from MSI, but it looks like we received an SKU from Computer Upgrade King that's supposed to cost $300 more. Sort of makes up for her old laptop being stolen.

My GF now has a laptop stronger than my desktop x_x

Awesome, you win. Rest easy knowing the law is on your side.
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0181-unordered-merchandise
Q. Am I obligated to return or pay for merchandise I never ordered?
A. No. If you receive merchandise that you didn’t order, you have a legal right to keep it as a free gift.

Q. Must I notify the seller if I keep unordered merchandise without paying for it?
A. You have no legal obligation to notify the seller.

My translation of the above: You are under no legal obligation to be a decent human being. You are free to be a selfish prick. Congratulations, the law is on your side!

considering how often big corps screw us little guys, if they get a little screwage in return (legally too boot!) i'm all for it. besides, it's not like the prof did anything wrong. i'd say it's a moral grey area at best.
 
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25. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 22, 2017, 16:55 MacLeod
 
The Half Elf wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 09:56:
Bring back All My Children you bastards!

Nah man. You can't bring back AMC without David Canary, and he passed away two years ago.
 
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24. Re: Kellyann Conway BANNED Feb 22, 2017, 16:05 BobBob
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 15:53:
donnies head of miss-information has been sidelined for spreading alternate facts. It's about time. Leather face banned

My favorite summary.

And this one.
 
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23. Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 22, 2017, 16:00 Mr. Tact
 
BobBob wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 15:15:
There's no such thing as 'realtor on your side' because he/she profits by a commission on the higher sale price. Wouldn't be surprised if 'something else, off record' was going on there.
I understand the concern. However, in this particular case my realtor was actually someone I've known personally for many years. Within the realm of possible? Sure. Likely? Not in this particular case. That said, collusion on the price to get an extra $90, only $45 on each side, seems like a risk hardly worth taking.
 
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22. Kellyann Conway BANNED Feb 22, 2017, 15:53 RedEye9
 
donnies head of miss-information has been sidelined for spreading alternate facts. It's about time. Leather face banned  
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“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell.”
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21. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 22, 2017, 15:46 RedEye9
 
Pigeon wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 13:15:
BobBob wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 12:54:
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 12:05:
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 11:37:
Nice, girlfriend ordered this laptop and instead of 128GB SSD/12GB RAM they somehow shipped her a 512GB/32GB version. I made sure we selected the one direct from MSI, but it looks like we received an SKU from Computer Upgrade King that's supposed to cost $300 more. Sort of makes up for her old laptop being stolen.

My GF now has a laptop stronger than my desktop x_x

Awesome, you win. Rest easy knowing the law is on your side.
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0181-unordered-merchandise
Q. Am I obligated to return or pay for merchandise I never ordered?
A. No. If you receive merchandise that you didn’t order, you have a legal right to keep it as a free gift.

Q. Must I notify the seller if I keep unordered merchandise without paying for it?
A. You have no legal obligation to notify the seller.

My translation of the above: You are under no legal obligation to a decent human being. You are free to be a selfish prick. The law is on your side!

It's probably a consumer protection law preventing companies from sending people more expensive items than what they ordered/paid for, and then billing them for the difference and/or use it as an aggressive up-sale technique. Companies have more resources and would have more experience in such matters putting consumers at a considerable disadvantage. So while an honest person may think the law too aggressive, having it so cut and dry in the consumer's favor curtails dishonest behavior on the part of the company.
Like I said, you win, simple as that.
 
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20. Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 22, 2017, 15:24 Cutter
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 13:12:
Then a few weeks later the house literally next door was listed, I went to see it on the first day of the listing. The next day I did the paper work to make an offer, only to find out a few hours later there was another offer. At my realtor's suggestion I upped my offer by $1,500. It was a tense six hours before my agent called and said they had accepted my offer. And all this is in a town of a little over 100k.

Just recently in Ontario they changed the law on that. Now all offers not only have to be in writing but they have to be presented to all competing bidders. The biggest complaint here over the last decade has been that a lot of scumbag realtors have just been inflating prices by making claims of higher offers without ever offering any actual proof that was the case. It's a welcome change. Now if we can just get the damn foreigners locked out of buying real estate here prices should start returning to some semblance of normalcy.
 
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19. Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 22, 2017, 15:15 BobBob
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 13:12:
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 12:43:
Didn't get the West Village apartment. Apparently the building management company concealed from my realtor that there was another applicant, and then basically stonewalled her when she asked for more info about why the other applicant was selected over me. My realtor's take was that the building management already had a tenant lined up and just played us to get an extra application fee. In my realtor's words, "Welcome to the world of New York real estate."

She's going to present me with some new listings later this afternoon, and then we'll go from there. Oh well.
Bummer. How much was the application fee?

Don't feel too bad though, this kind of thing can happen even in far less competitive markets. When I was looking for the house I own (with the mortgage company) now I was looking in a specific neighborhood. I had only really started looking, hadn't even signed on with a realtor yet. Found a listing pretty much right where I wanted to be. Called the listing agent, made an appointment for two days later to see the place. Two hours before the appointment she called and said an offer had been accepted on the house. Then a few weeks later the house literally next door was listed, I went to see it on the first day of the listing. The next day I did the paper work to make an offer, only to find out a few hours later there was another offer. At my realtor's suggestion I upped my offer by $1,500. It was a tense six hours before my agent called and said they had accepted my offer. And all this is in a town of a little over 100k.

There's no such thing as 'realtor on your side' because he/she profits by a commission on the higher sale price. Wouldn't be surprised if 'something else, off record' was going on there.
 
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18. Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 22, 2017, 14:48 Scottish Martial Arts
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 13:12:
Bummer. How much was the application fee?


$250, which made not getting the apartment sting all the more. Oh well, there are plenty of cool apartments in the West Village in my price range. I bet that for sure by the end of next week I'll have nabbed one.
 
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17. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 22, 2017, 14:31 Kxmode
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 12:27:
Speaking of mental health issues:

Ford was reportedly captured on air traffic control recordings asking, “Was that airliner meant to be underneath me?” Air traffic control then informed the actor that he inadvertently landed on a taxiway with awaiting aircraft instead of the runway he was instructed to head toward.

In audio released last week, the actor was heard making mistakes during radio communication with air traffic control in the minutes leading up to his close call. He responded to the control tower by fumbling his words and telling them that he was flying a helicopter rather than his single-engine plane.

Jesus, revoke his license already.

Air Traffic Controller: Sir, the possibility of successfully landing your aircraft unscheduled at a busy airfield is approximately 3,720 to 1.
Ford: Never tell me the odds!
 
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William Shakespeare's "Star Wars" Act I, Scene 1: Aboard the rebel ship. / Enter C-3PO and R2-D2. / C-3PO: "Now is the summer of our happiness / Made winter by this sudden, fierce attack!" / R2-D2 — Beep beep, Beep, beep, meep, squeak, beep, whee!
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16. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 22, 2017, 13:15 Pigeon
 
BobBob wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 12:54:
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 12:05:
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 11:37:
Nice, girlfriend ordered this laptop and instead of 128GB SSD/12GB RAM they somehow shipped her a 512GB/32GB version. I made sure we selected the one direct from MSI, but it looks like we received an SKU from Computer Upgrade King that's supposed to cost $300 more. Sort of makes up for her old laptop being stolen.

My GF now has a laptop stronger than my desktop x_x

Awesome, you win. Rest easy knowing the law is on your side.
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0181-unordered-merchandise
Q. Am I obligated to return or pay for merchandise I never ordered?
A. No. If you receive merchandise that you didn’t order, you have a legal right to keep it as a free gift.

Q. Must I notify the seller if I keep unordered merchandise without paying for it?
A. You have no legal obligation to notify the seller.

My translation of the above: You are under no legal obligation to a decent human being. You are free to be a selfish prick. The law is on your side!

It's probably a consumer protection law preventing companies from sending people more expensive items than what they ordered/paid for, and then billing them for the difference and/or use it as an aggressive up-sale technique. Companies have more resources and would have more experience in such matters putting consumers at a considerable disadvantage. So while an honest person may think the law too aggressive, having it so cut and dry in the consumer's favor curtails dishonest behavior on the part of the company.
 
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15. Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 22, 2017, 13:12 Mr. Tact
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 12:43:
Didn't get the West Village apartment. Apparently the building management company concealed from my realtor that there was another applicant, and then basically stonewalled her when she asked for more info about why the other applicant was selected over me. My realtor's take was that the building management already had a tenant lined up and just played us to get an extra application fee. In my realtor's words, "Welcome to the world of New York real estate."

She's going to present me with some new listings later this afternoon, and then we'll go from there. Oh well.
Bummer. How much was the application fee?

Don't feel too bad though, this kind of thing can happen even in far less competitive markets. When I was looking for the house I own (with the mortgage company) now I was looking in a specific neighborhood. I had only really started looking, hadn't even signed on with a realtor yet. Found a listing pretty much right where I wanted to be. Called the listing agent, made an appointment for two days later to see the place. Two hours before the appointment she called and said an offer had been accepted on the house. Then a few weeks later the house literally next door was listed, I went to see it on the first day of the listing. The next day I did the paper work to make an offer, only to find out a few hours later there was another offer. At my realtor's suggestion I upped my offer by $1,500. It was a tense six hours before my agent called and said they had accepted my offer. And all this is in a town of a little over 100k.
 
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14. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 22, 2017, 12:54 BobBob
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 12:05:
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 11:37:
Nice, girlfriend ordered this laptop and instead of 128GB SSD/12GB RAM they somehow shipped her a 512GB/32GB version. I made sure we selected the one direct from MSI, but it looks like we received an SKU from Computer Upgrade King that's supposed to cost $300 more. Sort of makes up for her old laptop being stolen.

My GF now has a laptop stronger than my desktop x_x

Awesome, you win. Rest easy knowing the law is on your side.
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0181-unordered-merchandise
Q. Am I obligated to return or pay for merchandise I never ordered?
A. No. If you receive merchandise that you didn’t order, you have a legal right to keep it as a free gift.

Q. Must I notify the seller if I keep unordered merchandise without paying for it?
A. You have no legal obligation to notify the seller.

My translation of the above: You are under no legal obligation to be a decent human being. You are free to be a selfish prick. Congratulations, the law is on your side!
 
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13. Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 22, 2017, 12:43 Scottish Martial Arts
 
Didn't get the West Village apartment. Apparently the building management company concealed from my realtor that there was another applicant, and then basically stonewalled her when she asked for more info about why the other applicant was selected over me. My realtor's take was that the building management already had a tenant lined up and just played us to get an extra application fee. In my realtor's words, "Welcome to the world of New York real estate."

She's going to present me with some new listings later this afternoon, and then we'll go from there. Oh well.
 
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12. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 22, 2017, 12:27 jdreyer
 
Speaking of mental health issues:

Ford was reportedly captured on air traffic control recordings asking, “Was that airliner meant to be underneath me?” Air traffic control then informed the actor that he inadvertently landed on a taxiway with awaiting aircraft instead of the runway he was instructed to head toward.

In audio released last week, the actor was heard making mistakes during radio communication with air traffic control in the minutes leading up to his close call. He responded to the control tower by fumbling his words and telling them that he was flying a helicopter rather than his single-engine plane.

Jesus, revoke his license already.
 
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The land in Minecraft is flat, Minecraft simulates the Earth, ergo the Earth is flat.
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11. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 22, 2017, 12:23 jdreyer
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 10:40:
Will people be living longer lives as ghouls because of all the radiation from WWIII? Because that's what I see happening by 2030 2018 at our current pace of global Idiocracy.

Fixed. You were off by a few years.
 
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The land in Minecraft is flat, Minecraft simulates the Earth, ergo the Earth is flat.
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10. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 22, 2017, 12:05 RedEye9
 
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 11:37:
Nice, girlfriend ordered this laptop and instead of 128GB SSD/12GB RAM they somehow shipped her a 512GB/32GB version. I made sure we selected the one direct from MSI, but it looks like we received an SKU from Computer Upgrade King that's supposed to cost $300 more. Sort of makes up for her old laptop being stolen.

My GF now has a laptop stronger than my desktop x_x

Awesome, you win. Rest easy knowing the law is on your side.
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0181-unordered-merchandise
Q. Am I obligated to return or pay for merchandise I never ordered?
A. No. If you receive merchandise that you didn’t order, you have a legal right to keep it as a free gift.

Q. Must I notify the seller if I keep unordered merchandise without paying for it?
A. You have no legal obligation to notify the seller.
 
Avatar 58135
 
“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell.”
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9. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 22, 2017, 11:43 BobBob
 
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2017, 11:37:
Nice, girlfriend ordered this laptop and instead of 128GB SSD/12GB RAM they somehow shipped her a 512GB/32GB version. I made sure we selected the one direct from MSI, but it looks like we received an SKU from Computer Upgrade King that's supposed to cost $300 more. Sort of makes up for her old laptop being stolen.

My GF now has a laptop stronger than my desktop x_x

Write to them, letting them know of their mistake. If they respond no worries, at least you'll have it in writing. Bear in mind, I'm an overly honest person, often to my own detriment, so I'm sure someone else will give a different opinion.

Here's an article on the topic.

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8. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 22, 2017, 11:37 PHJF
 
Nice, girlfriend ordered this laptop and instead of 128GB SSD/12GB RAM they somehow shipped her a 512GB/32GB version. I made sure we selected the one direct from MSI, but it looks like we received an SKU from Computer Upgrade King that's supposed to cost $300 more. Sort of makes up for her old laptop being stolen.

My GF now has a laptop stronger than my desktop x_x
 
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Steam + PSN: PHJF
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