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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed?

DSOGaming has the image of European retail packaging for Halo Wars 2 that appears to be a confirmation of plans for NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti graphics cards. NVIDIA usually offers a ti variant as a top-end card, but none has yet been announced for the 1080, in spite of rampant rumors. The box offers Ultra system requirements, and under GPU they list the AMD R9 Fury X and the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti.

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26. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 21, 2017, 13:46 Rigs
 
El Pit wrote on Feb 21, 2017, 07:04:
Leper wrote on Feb 20, 2017, 10:51:
Xactly. Those times have long sailed where shit gets cheaper when new shit comes out. Nowadays old shit simply goes EOL outta stock and is replaced by some new (often times more expensive) shit.

There's still plenty of old shit on eBay...

In 2004 I had a bad experience with a CPU I bought on eBay that the seller had overcocked to hell and sold broken. Never again.

Wait, wait, wait...do you want me to point out the flaw in that thinking or....?

You sound like my mother. She has a friend that had one bad experience with buying something on Amazon and now she boycotts it as if it killer her dog. Anyone mentions 'Amazon' and she goes into the story about her friend buying some cheap thing on Amazon and it was the wrong size and broken. Of course, her friend, another senior citizen, also swore off Amazon because of it and didn't try to get a refund because they figured they'd be arguing with the seller from some small Chinese sweatshop and wouldn't be able to get anywhere. Obviously, you can see the problems with this.

I wouldn't say that eBay has gotten 'better' since 2004, but it has gotten easier to spot liars, you just go for the ones with the highest ratings. That may sound obvious but the thing about people with high ratings is they will do anything to keep it and bad feedback is the last thing they want. A lot of them will bend over backwards to help you. I'd say try it again.


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25. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 21, 2017, 07:04 El Pit
 
Leper wrote on Feb 20, 2017, 10:51:
Xactly. Those times have long sailed where shit gets cheaper when new shit comes out. Nowadays old shit simply goes EOL outta stock and is replaced by some new (often times more expensive) shit.

There's still plenty of old shit on eBay...

In 2004 I had a bad experience with a CPU I bought on eBay that the seller had overcocked to hell and sold broken. Never again.
 
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24. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 20, 2017, 10:51 Leper
 
Xactly. Those times have long sailed where shit gets cheaper when new shit comes out. Nowadays old shit simply goes EOL outta stock and is replaced by some new (often times more expensive) shit.

There's still plenty of old shit on eBay...
 
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23. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 20, 2017, 08:44 CJ_Parker
 
Xactly. Those times have long sailed where shit gets cheaper when new shit comes out. Nowadays old shit simply goes EOL outta stock and is replaced by some new (often times more expensive) shit.
But the veracity of the rumor sounds questionable to begin with. nVidia won't do shit until Vega comes out. Until Vega they got their comfy lead with nice margins on the parts they are selling. There is zero need to introduce a 2070 for anything.

I don't think they'll have much to counter Vega at first. There's been some rumors about an intermediate 12nm FinFET process at TSMC but who knows when that will be ready for mass production.
Maybe we'll see a reversal for the next six to twelve months where AMD will take the lead at the high end with no counter from nVidia.

Until then the only big question is how much juice is left in the current Pascals. We know that they put a hard lock on voltage so higher clocked Pascals with unlocked voltage and better cooling might be an option for a possible 2000 or 1100 series.
 
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22. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 20, 2017, 08:19 Redmask
 
VaranDragon wrote on Feb 20, 2017, 04:48:
Yeah, but what about the 1070s still on the market? Wouldnt retailers be dropping the price on those, because the newer cards are both cheaper and well, newer?

In essence Xero has the right idea, once the 2XXX series is released the 1XXX series will start to be discounted, obviously if there is still stock on the market. One other option is to go second hand. I've bought second hand GFX cards in the past, and I don't ever remember having any problems with em.

No one overstocks on cards like that. You don't often see retailers do loss leaders with those and companies like Nvidia do have overstock return. Sorry man, good luck getting a 1070 on a deep discount just because something new came out. Quite often you see the opposite, a lot of people need them for SLI and so the prices go up when new cards come out and stock is limited.
 
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21. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 20, 2017, 06:22 IgWannA
 
nVidia's pricing in the UK is crazy. Even long after they released, the 1080 is minimum 600 here ($750 USD) and the 1070 is 400/$500. Way higher than they were supposed to be priced.  
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20. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 20, 2017, 04:48 VaranDragon
 
Redmask wrote on Feb 20, 2017, 00:59:
Rigs wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:36:
Slick wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:28:
Xero wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:23:
Confirm anything!!! I just want some price drops already on the 1070!

If the leaks are to be believed, the 2070 is going to launch soon at a lower price than the 1070, with slightly better performance.

That sounds a little...stupid...to me. Why/How would the 2070 be faster and cost less?

Rolleyes Both companies have launched newer iterations at lower price points in the past. Think about it for a second. "faster" is just a consequence of refreshed tech or manufacturing refinements.

Yeah, but what about the 1070s still on the market? Wouldnt retailers be dropping the price on those, because the newer cards are both cheaper and well, newer?

In essence Xero has the right idea, once the 2XXX series is released the 1XXX series will start to be discounted, obviously if there is still stock on the market. One other option is to go second hand. I've bought second hand GFX cards in the past, and I don't ever remember having any problems with em.
 
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19. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 20, 2017, 00:59 Redmask
 
Rigs wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:36:
Slick wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:28:
Xero wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:23:
Confirm anything!!! I just want some price drops already on the 1070!

If the leaks are to be believed, the 2070 is going to launch soon at a lower price than the 1070, with slightly better performance.

That sounds a little...stupid...to me. Why/How would the 2070 be faster and cost less?

Rolleyes Both companies have launched newer iterations at lower price points in the past. Think about it for a second. "faster" is just a consequence of refreshed tech or manufacturing refinements.
 
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18. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 19, 2017, 23:04 Slick
 
Yeah I think you're right, I was buying AMD cards like the 5780 and the 7970 back then, so I can't quite remember. I do remember that they've done this whole refresh "rebadging" thing before, as has AMD, so there's ample precedent.

I also agree that it seems like it's too early for the 2xxx series, as they only launched the 1080 in June 2016 I think.

That being said, it wouldn't be unlike nV to break out the "big guns" to combat AMD's upcoming GPU announcement (they're both now happening on the same day). And considering they have no new architecture, they could just say "introducing the 2xxx series!" AKA Malibu Stacy with a hat!

Fact is they're already producing Voltas for their supercomputer clientele, and by the end of 2017 they'll be shipping Voltas for their machine learning rigs for the commercial sector, possibly with workstation-class Quadro cards by the end of the year, with consumer Voltas coming out in 2018. So there really isn't THAT much time to fit in a refreshed 2xxx line anyways, so if they were to do it, it would have to be soon-ish. A March announcement and April-May availability wouldn't be far-fetched.
 
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17. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 19, 2017, 22:43 Shineyguy
 
Slick wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 19:02:
Rigs wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:36:
Slick wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:28:
Xero wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:23:
Confirm anything!!! I just want some price drops already on the 1070!

If the leaks are to be believed, the 2070 is going to launch soon at a lower price than the 1070, with slightly better performance.

That sounds a little...stupid...to me. Why/How would the 2070 be faster and cost less?


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It's a refresh gen, same like what they did with the... was it the 680? It was just a refresh of the 580? And that was also spun into the 770, so the same card essentially appeared in 3 different generations. Each time some very mild optimizations appeared, and the price dropped, but was essentially the same chip.

Supposedly, same shit happening with the 2xxx series. The 3xxx series is their next architecture Volta.

No, 600 series was Kepler, 500 series was Fermi refresh.

700 series was Kepler refresh.

900 series was Maxwell of course

1000 series is Pascal as mentioned.


I wouldn't expect a refreshed Pascal so soon. Volta actually was supposed to be delivered to DoD this quarter, I'm sure consumers won't see it until it's expected to arrive.
 
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16. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 19, 2017, 19:02 Slick
 
Rigs wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:36:
Slick wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:28:
Xero wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:23:
Confirm anything!!! I just want some price drops already on the 1070!

If the leaks are to be believed, the 2070 is going to launch soon at a lower price than the 1070, with slightly better performance.

That sounds a little...stupid...to me. Why/How would the 2070 be faster and cost less?


=-Rigs-=

It's a refresh gen, same like what they did with the... was it the 680? It was just a refresh of the 580? And that was also spun into the 770, so the same card essentially appeared in 3 different generations. Each time some very mild optimizations appeared, and the price dropped, but was essentially the same chip.

Supposedly, same shit happening with the 2xxx series. The 3xxx series is their next architecture Volta.
 
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15. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 19, 2017, 18:36 Rigs
 
Slick wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:28:
Xero wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:23:
Confirm anything!!! I just want some price drops already on the 1070!

If the leaks are to be believed, the 2070 is going to launch soon at a lower price than the 1070, with slightly better performance.

That sounds a little...stupid...to me. Why/How would the 2070 be faster and cost less?


=-Rigs-=
 
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14. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 19, 2017, 18:28 Slick
 
Xero wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 18:23:
Confirm anything!!! I just want some price drops already on the 1070!

If the leaks are to be believed, the 2070 is going to launch soon at a lower price than the 1070, with slightly better performance.
 
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13. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 19, 2017, 18:23 Xero
 
Confirm anything!!! I just want some price drops already on the 1070!  
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12. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 19, 2017, 17:31 Slick
 
HoSpanky wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 16:04:
jacobvandy wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 15:26:
WTF, so they're changing the numbering scheme again? Why no 1100s?

It seems unlikely they'd go to a 2000 series, especially since it's not really a big change from the 1000. Dunno. Slick may just be bad at numbers.

And Dr_donkles, yes, it IS a Ferrari, so you won't be buying it for the price of a Corolla.

Do some cursory homework, articles detailing the 2xxx and 3xxx series of nvidia gpus have been circulating for nearly 6 months. Of course nothing is official, but it's very pervasive, it's doubtful that dozens of websites will have all called this wrong.
 
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11. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 19, 2017, 16:08 Rigs
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 14:33:
GinRummy wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 14:23:
is the "ti" version higher or lower specs than the version without?
"ti" versions are normally higher specced.
https://www.quora.com/What-does-Ti-mean-in-NVIDIA-GPUs

If my mind hasn't eroded completely since the last millennium, wasn't 'Ti' just a shortened 'Titanium' from the Geforce 3 and 4 series? As the Q&A stated, they first started with 'MX' (like my Hercules-branded Geforce2 MX card, which was the first 'mainstream' mass marketed 3D card with a low enough price point - $250 for a GF2MX/32mb, that replaced my ageing Rendition-based Diamond Stealth S220/4mb and dual Diamond Monster3D-2-branded Voodoo2's (8mb each) in SLI) but then dropped that in favor of 'Titanium' and then just 'Ti'...from what I remember anyway... *shrugs*

Pigeon wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 16:04:
jacobvandy wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 15:26:
WTF, so they're changing the numbering scheme again? Why no 1100s?

This is how the marketing executives make it look like they're doing something. 'We need to show the customers how fresh and new our cards are and by that I mean we've refreshed our old new cards. Thus hence forth we shall increase model numbers by the sum of 1000, no more no less. Brilliant yes? Now where's my bonus?'

As much as I hate to admit it, AMD did the same thing with both their 6000-series and then when they carried the 7000-series over to the short lived 8000-series and then on to the R-series. So, for once, nVidia isn't the only sly son of a bitch here trying to get a one up on unwary consumers...

HoSpanky wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 16:04:
jacobvandy wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 15:26:
WTF, so they're changing the numbering scheme again? Why no 1100s?

It seems unlikely they'd go to a 2000 series, especially since it's not really a big change from the 1000. Dunno. Slick may just be bad at numbers.

It's not his numbers, he listed his source right in his post, did you not see it? Or are you taking a dig at him for the whole 'STEAM 30%'-thing the other day? Confused

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10. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 19, 2017, 16:04 Pigeon
 
jacobvandy wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 15:26:
WTF, so they're changing the numbering scheme again? Why no 1100s?

This is how the marketing executives make it look like they're doing something. 'We need to show the customers how fresh and new our cards are and by that I mean we've refreshed our old new cards. Thus hence forth we shall increase model numbers by the sum of 1000, no more no less. Brilliant yes? Now where's my bonus?'
 
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9. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 19, 2017, 16:04 HoSpanky
 
jacobvandy wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 15:26:
WTF, so they're changing the numbering scheme again? Why no 1100s?

It seems unlikely they'd go to a 2000 series, especially since it's not really a big change from the 1000. Dunno. Slick may just be bad at numbers.

And Dr_donkles, yes, it IS a Ferrari, so you won't be buying it for the price of a Corolla.
 
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8. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 19, 2017, 15:26 jacobvandy
 
WTF, so they're changing the numbering scheme again? Why no 1100s?  
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7. Re: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti Confirmed? Feb 19, 2017, 15:02 Slick
 
Task wrote on Feb 19, 2017, 14:54:
Ti is usually the final model of the latest NVidia GPU.

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/54285/nvidia-geforce-gtx-2080-ti-lead-20-series/index.html

Actually old rumours, but ones that are still persisting that the Ti will lead the pack for the 2xxx series. It will be a massive seller if it does.
 
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