Descent and Kali. Memories.

Magic Carpet, great game too. I miss Bullfrog.

HorrorScope wrote on Dec 22, 2016, 14:19:
Sounds cool that was a bit of a vibe I got, resource gathering etc is part of it. The old game was pretty much go through the tubes and pew pew, which was fun then, but something much grander would be cool.

You sir are preaching to the choir. Loved the Arena based stuff in the originals but firmly believe that in order for the new generation of gamers to love it like we did, they will want more - which is why we have 9 ships, all with special abilities and roles to play, we have a variety of game play from survival, to co-op to Miner Mayhem(CTF), Conquest, and Vs bots. In addition to the Single Player campaign we are currently working on which resets the entire universe and sets up our 5 phase 10 year plan in action. Eventually we hope that the fighting in tunnels is PART of a grander Universe.

While we can't compete on a tiny budget with large games, we can make a great smaller scope game that ties into something bigger and that has been our goal all along.

It just gets a little taxing sometimes seeing people trying to start a war between our game and others, when none exists - in all honesty to bring 6Dof back from the grave it is going to take several games and probably also a good console release too - something we would like to do, but currently don't have the money or time to make it happen....but we do have plans......

Oh, and one more thing - we are deploying a NEW build right now with some new features...and a first pass training mission....enjoy!

WM

This comment was edited on Dec 22, 2016, 16:03.

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Dec 22, 2016, 14:02:


Dammit, an impassioned Indie Dev posting in a thread about his own game on Bluesnews... now I have to buy this and the other Descent remake.

Good luck, WingmanDU, it's looking really good so far.

Steam store seems to be hammered still, but I'm not really into the Gog Galaxy client(required for multiplayer?) hrm... should I finally break down and install Galaxy? *ponders.*

Thanks, you can always skip both places and get it on our own store at www.descentunderground.com



WM

+1 wingman coming to defend himself

some people just talk big with nothing to back it up. thanks for actually making a game instead of posting on forums full time like the rest of us

WingmanDU wrote on Dec 22, 2016, 13:02:
Woah - as one of those so called "Hacks" let's be real here. Before we came along Descent was wallowing in the sock drawer of Interplay, we loved the original, wanted to bring it back, or at least the type of game, so started to make "Ships That Fight Underground" or STFU for short, and were contacted by Interplay to license the name and make it an actual Descent game - we were OVERJOYED and jumped at the chance.

So, we all took a massive risk to bring back an IP that most gamers under 30 have no idea existed.

Calling us HACKS for taking a risk to bring back something we loved is insulting to say the least.

We are also fans of Overload - and backers - there is not a zero sum game here, we can all win by having more and more 6Dof games to play - there is not one winner to rule them all...many people play Battlefield and Call of Duty.

And for the record, we asked Matt and Mike to join us in making this game, but they decided to do their own 6Dof game Overload, and we totally respect that.

Our game is based upon Descent 1 and the flight mechanics and speeds, but we are adding a TON MORE GAME play for a modern audience, instead of one ship we have 9, all with roles to play, and special abilities, unlocks and such - it is a huge undertaking by a small team of developers (around 10), and we are doing it out of passion for the genre.

Please stop this us vs them nonsense, it is unnecessary and we as Devs don't participate in it, we want more good games.

WingmanDU wrote on Dec 22, 2016, 13:07:
We intend to do exactly this within the Descent Universe, we are rebooting the franchise, but with a small amount of funding we had to do this in phases, this is phase 1, by phase 3 we will all be in space fighting over Alien technology, but we need to be successful in phase 1 etc to have the funding.

We do not have millions of dollars and raman noodles are getting old, real fast.

WM

Sounds cool that was a bit of a vibe I got, resource gathering etc is part of it. The old game was pretty much go through the tubes and pew pew, which was fun then, but something much grander would be cool.

WingmanDU wrote on Dec 22, 2016, 13:02:
Woah - as one of those so called "Hacks" let's be real here. Before we came along Descent was wallowing in the sock drawer of Interplay, we loved the original, wanted to bring it back, or at least the type of game, so started to make "Ships That Fight Underground" or STFU for short, and were contacted by Interplay to license the name and make it an actual Descent game - we were OVERJOYED and jumped at the chance.

So, we all took a massive risk to bring back an IP that most gamers under 30 have no idea existed.

Calling us HACKS for taking a risk to bring back something we loved is insulting to say the least.

We are also fans of Overload - and backers - there is not a zero sum game here, we can all win by having more and more 6Dof games to play - there is not one winner to rule them all...many people play Battlefield and Call of Duty.

And for the record, we asked Matt and Mike to join us in making this game, but they decided to do their own 6Dof game Overload, and we totally respect that.

Our game is based upon Descent 1 and the flight mechanics and speeds, but we are adding a TON MORE GAME play for a modern audience, instead of one ship we have 9, all with roles to play, and special abilities, unlocks and such - it is a huge undertaking by a small team of developers (around 10), and we are doing it out of passion for the genre.

Please stop this us vs them nonsense, it is unnecessary and we as Devs don't participate in it, we want more good games.

I agree... I think what you have looks good. It must be something to be a developer and if you are reading comments, I hope you all can just take it in stride, internet group think in general is really bad, have to compartmentalize it correctly.

WingmanDU wrote on Dec 22, 2016, 13:07:
We intend to do exactly this within the Descent Universe, we are rebooting the franchise, but with a small amount of funding we had to do this in phases, this is phase 1, by phase 3 we will all be in space fighting over Alien technology, but we need to be successful in phase 1 etc to have the funding.

We do not have millions of dollars and raman noodles are getting old, real fast.

WM

Dammit, an impassioned Indie Dev posting in a thread about his own game on Bluesnews... now I have to buy this and the other Descent remake.

Good luck, WingmanDU, it's looking really good so far.

Steam store seems to be hammered still, but I'm not really into the Gog Galaxy client(required for multiplayer?) hrm... should I finally break down and install Galaxy? *ponders.*

SpectralMeat wrote on Dec 21, 2016, 11:58:
So is this the same as the one on Steam? Descent Underground
If it is the same game than I guess now we know the discount this will be on in 2 days during the Steam Winter sale

LOL - well spotted my good man! And the sale started at noon today CST.

WM

This comment was edited on Dec 22, 2016, 15:33.

We intend to do exactly this within the Descent Universe, we are rebooting the franchise, but with a small amount of funding we had to do this in phases, this is phase 1, by phase 3 we will all be in space fighting over Alien technology, but we need to be successful in phase 1 etc to have the funding.

We do not have millions of dollars and raman noodles are getting old, real fast.

WM

Woah - as one of those so called "Hacks" let's be real here. Before we came along Descent was wallowing in the sock drawer of Interplay, we loved the original, wanted to bring it back, or at least the type of game, so started to make "Ships That Fight Underground" or STFU for short, and were contacted by Interplay to license the name and make it an actual Descent game - we were OVERJOYED and jumped at the chance.

So, we all took a massive risk to bring back an IP that most gamers under 30 have no idea existed.

Calling us HACKS for taking a risk to bring back something we loved is insulting to say the least.

We are also fans of Overload - and backers - there is not a zero sum game here, we can all win by having more and more 6Dof games to play - there is not one winner to rule them all...many people play Battlefield and Call of Duty.

And for the record, we asked Matt and Mike to join us in making this game, but they decided to do their own 6Dof game Overload, and we totally respect that.

Our game is based upon Descent 1 and the flight mechanics and speeds, but we are adding a TON MORE GAME play for a modern audience, instead of one ship we have 9, all with roles to play, and special abilities, unlocks and such - it is a huge undertaking by a small team of developers (around 10), and we are doing it out of passion for the genre.

Please stop this us vs them nonsense, it is unnecessary and we as Devs don't participate in it, we want more good games.

it would be nice to see a lot more physics/terrain dynamics and voxel deformation type games out there... personally i think destructible terrain and all that is the next "big thing" in games, but ive been thinking that for many years now - i thought it would be much more prevalent before the "big thing" of convincing AI and generative plot/story tech

but i think there might be a simple answer in the fact that stuff like the unreal engine and gamecreator type software is so cheap and easy to use, and those things arent voxel based ... also im not sure if voxel engines can be 3d accelerated in the same way as polygonal engines, but maybe thats different now

Esoteric wrote on Dec 22, 2016, 03:13:
Why aren't there more modern games like Magic Carpet?

Why aren't there more modern games like [most of what Bullfrog ever made]?

(Personally, I loved Magic Carpet and Syndicate. Dungeon Keeper and Populous were pretty good too.)

-scheherazade

Why aren't there more modern games like Magic Carpet?

HorrorScope wrote on Dec 21, 2016, 18:40:
FWIW I liked Descent and what was the other one like this? Foresaken that was huge back in the early days of GPU's? Crazy fps's.

Both of the updates talked about in here look pretty good to.

The future is Forsaken.

FWIW I liked Descent and what was the other one like this? Foresaken that was huge back in the early days of GPU's? Crazy fps's.

Both of the updates talked about in here look pretty good to.

Alamar wrote on Dec 21, 2016, 15:47:

Agent-Zero wrote on Dec 21, 2016, 14:58:
always preferred Magic Carpet ... now that would be a good reboot

Magic Carpets were great games... There have been a few hobby developed attempts over the years, including my own, but they die off before getting anywhere near completion, including my own heh.

Oh, man, I loved Magic Carpet. That and Descent were my thing back in the day.

...And I'm still sore over the dev of Arcane Worlds abandoning it. Even if what we saw wasn't great, just the promise of a Magic Carpet-style game got me really excited.

But, I'm really glad that after all these years, Descent-like games are getting a bit of a resurgence.
Retrovirus, Sublevel Zero, NeonXSZ, Overload, and Descent: Underground. My favorite style of FPS gameplay is coming back!

thecakeisalie wrote on Dec 21, 2016, 15:25:
Although I have a lot of respect for GOG, I don't think I would back this. I've been burned by a lot of Steam Greenlight games and recently by a couple of EA games sponsored by Greenmangaming. Before that, Star Citizen, Shroud of the Avatar, ArcheAge, Mechwarrior Online to name a few. I'm DONE backing EA/Kickstarter games. I've been burned a few too many times and I only have cold cynicism left in my heart for them.

I hear ya, the whole problem is that developers with the talent didn't get enough funds (planetary annihilation) and the hacks behind descent underground are not the developers of the original descent. All the flameouts really come down to the fact that crowdfunding doesn't raise enough funds to make AAA games. I knew PA would fail because an RTS of that scale traditionally required at least 10 million. PA got 2.5 mill.

Overload is being made by the real descent developers.

http://playoverload.com/

Agent-Zero wrote on Dec 21, 2016, 14:58:
never got into descent... seemed like a game trying to make the most of its technical limitations (underground tunnels, no physics) but IMO it was not a fun result

always preferred Magic Carpet ... now that would be a good reboot

Magic Carpets were great games... There have been a few hobby developed attempts over the years, including my own, but they die off before getting anywhere near completion, including my own heh.

I would love to see a 'real' company take that style and do something with it.. With the crap ton of voxel/terrain-deformation going on these days, I'm not sure why it hasn't happened... MC had it's drawbacks of course (repetition of all Bullfrog games really), but it could be fun ; )

thecakeisalie wrote on Dec 21, 2016, 15:25:
Although I have a lot of respect for GOG, I don't think I would back this. I've been burned by a lot of Steam Greenlight games and recently by a couple of EA games sponsored by Greenmangaming. Before that, Star Citizen, Shroud of the Avatar, ArcheAge, Mechwarrior Online to name a few. I'm DONE backing EA/Kickstarter games. I've been burned a few too many times and I only have cold cynicism left in my heart for them.

The rules have changed in the Misinformation Age,
1. Don't pre-order no matter how Shiny the reward.
2. Don't buy the game on day one.
3. Don't back EA/Kickstarter projects.
But DO look both ways before crossing the street.

Although I have a lot of respect for GOG, I don't think I would back this. I've been burned by a lot of Steam Greenlight games and recently by a couple of EA games sponsored by Greenmangaming. Before that, Star Citizen, Shroud of the Avatar, ArcheAge, Mechwarrior Online to name a few. I'm DONE backing EA/Kickstarter games. I've been burned a few too many times and I only have cold cynicism left in my heart for them.