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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Dec 3, 2016, 16:44
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 3, 2016, 16:44
Dec 3, 2016, 16:44
 
Verno wrote on Nov 30, 2016, 10:34:
Defender and Malwarebytes are all you need along with sane browsing habits. Beyond that protect your accounts with 2FA and you'll be fine.

Pretty much this. Zero viruses in forever, I do get some malware I have to clean up.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Dec 3, 2016, 15:19
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Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 3, 2016, 13:44:
I'm definitely safer than your average Internet cruiser. I went years without AV on my personal PC without ever getting a virus. I would occasionally download a trial just to do a scan, never found anything. I eventually started using it to protect myself from an accidental exposure -- a virus on a legit site or a friend unknowingly sending me one...

Doubt AV would you protect you from either of these threats, if it's a 0-day exploit in your browser or in a plugin transmitted via ad network then no AV would trigger, only protection is uBlock origin and, far more severe Javascript blockers (that's the stuff that can stealth open new browser windows in Firefox...). And these are the real threats nowadays. I dunno what you get via email, but as I said, use (clean) instance of sandboxie if you want to be really sure Aside from peace of mind, it also gives you an overview of network traffic and where the app puts files... very educational ^^

But what works for me, doesn't work for everyone. And it takes some mental effort to not click on exe files without sandboxie test first...

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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Dec 3, 2016, 13:44
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Dec 3, 2016, 13:44
 
I'm definitely safer than your average Internet cruiser. I went years without AV on my personal PC without ever getting a virus. I would occasionally download a trial just to do a scan, never found anything. I eventually started using it to protect myself from an accidental exposure -- a virus on a legit site or a friend unknowingly sending me one...
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Dec 3, 2016, 00:23
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Dec 3, 2016, 00:23
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 30, 2016, 08:42:
Since we are on the topic of security... what do you guys use for anti-virus? I've been using AVG for a couple of years now, but they just updated putting in a once every three days ad-nag, has me looking around...

Eh, depends on your internet usage habits... for most people AV is completely pointless waste of system res and mental sanity ;p Any false positive makes you less careful, and that is imo very dangerous. I only use sandboxie to test exe and installer files I download, everything else i relegate to a monthly scan with malware bytes, so far only got a hidden bitcoin miner once packaged in a legit sourceforge installer of all things. Took all of 10 seconds to kill it entirely with malwarebytes.. so yeah, having that definitely advisable, having AV on the other hand wouldn't have stopped this attack, the bitcoin miner trojans use legit pre-configured miner software packaged in the installer. If AV triggers there, it would trigger on everything (And thus defeat the point of AV)

If you don't click on weird email attachments you are good

But then again I also have a ghosted "pre-internet" version of my system disc that I could reinstall in a few minutes should something go haywire. And my network drives are firstly disconnected when not in use and secondly encrypted. My only gripe would be that an encryption trojan would mess up my savegames.. ;p

And aside that, 2FA ^^
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 30, 2016, 11:06
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Nov 30, 2016, 11:06
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 30, 2016, 10:11:
Last time I tried Norton they really "got in my way", but it has been probably 5-10 years since I used them. Have they gotten better in that time? Being an old fart, Kaspersky always gave me pause because they are based in Russia -- totally unfair, maybe I will give them a try.

Norton is no longer the system hogging POS that it used to be.
I would just get the base av, not the 360 total package even though it is not that much of a hog.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 30, 2016, 10:34
Verno
 
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Nov 30, 2016, 10:34
Nov 30, 2016, 10:34
 Verno
 
Defender and Malwarebytes are all you need along with sane browsing habits. Beyond that protect your accounts with 2FA and you'll be fine.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 30, 2016, 10:11
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Nov 30, 2016, 10:11
Nov 30, 2016, 10:11
 
Last time I tried Norton they really "got in my way", but it has been probably 5-10 years since I used them. Have they gotten better in that time? Being an old fart, Kaspersky always gave me pause because they are based in Russia -- totally unfair, maybe I will give them a try.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 30, 2016, 10:07
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Nov 30, 2016, 10:07
 
RedEye9 wrote on Nov 30, 2016, 10:04:
nin wrote on Nov 30, 2016, 08:59:
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 30, 2016, 08:42:
Since we are on the topic of security... what do you guys use for anti-virus? I've been using AVG for a couple of years now, but they just updated putting in a once every three days ad-nag, has me looking around...

I picked up a copy of kaspersky for $20 about 6 months ago (after being tired of various "free" options with popups, ads, "sales" etc), and been pretty happy with it. It gets new dats several times a day, isn't a resource pig, and quietly sits in the tray if I need to reference something.
For customers i recommend Malwarebytes paid with either Kaspersky, Norton or Avira. Personally I use MSE or Windows Defender with Malwarebytes paid and ublock origin.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 30, 2016, 10:04
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Nov 30, 2016, 10:04
 
Dup
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 30, 2016, 10:03
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Nov 30, 2016, 10:03
Nov 30, 2016, 10:03
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 30, 2016, 08:42:
Since we are on the topic of security... what do you guys use for anti-virus? I've been using AVG for a couple of years now, but they just updated putting in a once every three days ad-nag, has me looking around...

I use Kaspersky at work and Windows Defender at home. I also run uBlock Origin and Noscript on my systems and scan every couple of weeks with Malwarebytes.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 30, 2016, 08:59
nin
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Nov 30, 2016, 08:59
Nov 30, 2016, 08:59
nin
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 30, 2016, 08:42:
Since we are on the topic of security... what do you guys use for anti-virus? I've been using AVG for a couple of years now, but they just updated putting in a once every three days ad-nag, has me looking around...

I picked up a copy of kaspersky for $20 about 6 months ago (after being tired of various "free" options with popups, ads, "sales" etc), and been pretty happy with it. It gets new dats several times a day, isn't a resource pig, and quietly sits in the tray if I need to reference something.

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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 30, 2016, 08:42
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Nov 30, 2016, 08:42
Nov 30, 2016, 08:42
 
Since we are on the topic of security... what do you guys use for anti-virus? I've been using AVG for a couple of years now, but they just updated putting in a once every three days ad-nag, has me looking around...
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 30, 2016, 08:32
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Nov 30, 2016, 08:32
 
I use uBlock and uMatrix together. uMatrix really visualizes how much garbage can run on a page but can be a pain at times since it just pumps the breaks on everything.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 30, 2016, 06:34
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Nov 30, 2016, 06:34
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 29, 2016, 23:58:
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 29, 2016, 21:32:
Here's to hoping ABP wins all their court battles, wherever they may happen. I don't know how people deal with the Internet without it.

They use uBlock Origin ^^
LOL. Truthfully, I never heard of it until now. Looks good though. Here's to hoping they have no legal problems.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 29, 2016, 23:58
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Nov 29, 2016, 23:58
Nov 29, 2016, 23:58
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 29, 2016, 21:32:
Here's to hoping ABP wins all their court battles, wherever they may happen. I don't know how people deal with the Internet without it.

They use uBlock Origin ^^
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 29, 2016, 23:28
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Nov 29, 2016, 23:28
 
I have the acceptable ads turned off. As far as whitelisted ads, never seen one -- any time an ad has shown up it's because the extension or the browser is gacked up. A restart of the browser and a reload of the page, no ads.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 29, 2016, 23:19
LC
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Nov 29, 2016, 23:19
Nov 29, 2016, 23:19
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Good that the German courts aren't finding adblockers illegal. But I still think ABP is pretty shady.
Eyeo requires payment from large companies to have their ads white-listed, and it also insists the "acceptable ads" must conform to certain criteria.

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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 29, 2016, 22:13
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Nov 29, 2016, 22:13
 
RedEye9 wrote on Nov 29, 2016, 22:09:
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 29, 2016, 21:32:
Here's to hoping ABP wins all their court battles, wherever they may happen. I don't know how people deal with the Internet without it.

I hope they win along with
bleepingcomputer

I like ublock origin, some swear by noscript.

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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 29, 2016, 22:09
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Nov 29, 2016, 21:32
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Nov 29, 2016, 21:32
 
Here's to hoping ABP wins all their court battles, wherever they may happen. I don't know how people deal with the Internet without it.
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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