Star Citizen Schedule, Videos, Sale

A new Letter from the Chairman on the Roberts Space Industries offers a whopping twenty-two hundred or so word essay on the state of Star Citizen, the upcoming space combat game. Chris Roberts notes they are celebrating the fourth anniversary of the project, which includes a sale to support their now-stated goal of not stopping at their original stated goals. On that front he says, "The additional ships are rewards for helping expand our dream, to make sure we continue to go above and beyond what we set out to create." The post also includes a link to the Production Schedule Report mentioned last night, broken into a number of complicated subsections, but they all seem to be end at the release of alpha version 2.6 on December 8th, and don't seem to offer any outlook on when to expect a full release. The news is also accompanied by a few new videos from the game (thanks DSOGaming), a Star Marine Preview, the Big Guns of the UEE, and Behind The Big Guns of the UEE. Here's a bit from the blog post on their reasoning for selling still more ships for the uncompleted game, and it's doubtful that anyone would argue his point that no other game offers their options for "refactoring" pledges, since they are way off in the uncharted regions of crowdfunding:
The desire to continue to improve Star Citizen is also why we have begun offering an incentive to purchase a new concept with fresh money rather than melting a ship and using store credit. We offer backers a more comprehensive system for melting and refactoring their pledges than we had ever dreamed possible back in 2012, which is a system I believe no other game offers, and as a result you can often swap to a more favored ship without impacting funding at all. We built this to allow you all to be able to purchase a ship with confidence, knowing that if something you like better comes along you can switch out to it with minimal hassle and no loss. We do not intend to change this system, but maintaining it means that we need to find other ways to encourage new contributions rather than just recycling old ones as the continued funding means we can continue to make the game as good as it possibly can be. Going forward, these cash sales will focus on newly introduced concept ships and top tier limited capital ships.

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Nov 19, 2016, 15:46
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Nov 19, 2016, 15:46
 
These internal projections only go as far as Dec 8th!?

How about the projected date for sq42? Or just the next 13 months in general?

The game continues to look amazing but the timelines of when well be able to actually play this game never seem to get clearer.
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Drayth wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 15:19:
Friend and I at work were monitoring the ship sale page. The $2,700 capital ship was sold out by the time we pulled it up. Then at some point I refreshed and they had added another one to the page. 1 minute later it was gone.


Well, these ships certainly look gorgeous, but what the hell is wrong with humanity, buying virtual ships for $2700 in a game that doesn't even exist yet? Arrgh!

I could maybe excuse it if the game was already out, but buying that shit literally encourages them to NOT release Star Citizen, and instead just keep making more and more outrageously priced virtual ships for people to buy.

Any one of those big ships could be a basis for an entire game. The scope of Star Citizen is just laughable at this point.
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Nov 19, 2016, 15:33
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Nov 19, 2016, 15:33
 Slick
 
At least a bunch of their income is going towards development, through it's taking a long time to bear fruit.

Imagine if NMS had all the money they made 4 years in advance, it would have been a much different game.
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Nov 19, 2016, 15:28
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Nov 19, 2016, 15:28
 
Maybe we can have a new $50 tier called "Hire a Professional Management Team Who Only Give a Fuck About Releasing a Product and Making Money and Have Final Say on Development Milestones and Timelines." That doesn't always make for the best game releases, but at least there *are* releases.

I'll buy that. I understand there are some folks from Microsoft who have closely related experience from when they went in did the same damn thing to finally get Freelancer released.


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Nov 19, 2016, 15:19
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 13:46:
Does anyone know if funding is still coming in at the same levels as a year ago? That will determine if they'll still be in business in 2018 or not.

Friend and I at work were monitoring the ship sale page. The $2,700 capital ship was sold out by the time we pulled it up. Then at some point I refreshed and they had added another one to the page. 1 minute later it was gone.

Yeah, I think they're doing ok.

Creston wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 11:51:
I will say this: It is unbelievably pretty. Is this all in-engine? If so, that's just ... Drool

Really cool music too in the second video.

I watched 'em yesterday. I bet you're talking about the "Big Guns of the UEE", I thought that trailer's actually really good, especially the music. Better than the usual generic stuff...
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Nov 19, 2016, 15:09
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Armengar wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 12:57:
Ship the game. Add ships as dlc later. This is how STO has been running. But you cant do that as all the money has gone on blow and hookers.

Incorrect. It was hookers first, then blow.
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Nov 19, 2016, 14:57
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Steele Johnson wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 14:44:
I never heard of a company celebrating anniversaries of years developing something that's not finished wtf? lol

They sure love self-congratulation over there at RSI. Their ardent "fans" don't mind it either. Seems to go hand in hand with self-deception I guess. *shrug*
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Nov 19, 2016, 14:47
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They should just scrap the idea of making a game and produce a TV show with the art assets.
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I never heard of a company celebrating anniversaries of years developing something that's not finished wtf? lol
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{PH}88fingers wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 13:54:
jdreyer wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 13:46:
El Pit wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 12:29:
Peeeling wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 12:18:
Translation: "We don't have enough money left to finish what we promised a hundred million dollars ago".



They pulled in abt USD 1,9 mil in April
1,3 mil in May
2,2 mil in June
900k in July
4,5 mil in August
2,5 mil in September
5,2 mil in October

and are now up to USD 132 million


Numbers are so easy to put up , oh look all those mil must be good i'll buy.......easy to fool the zombies sooo easy
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Nov 19, 2016, 14:35
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Nov 19, 2016, 14:35
 El Pit
 
{PH}88fingers wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 13:54:
4,5 mil in August
2,5 mil in September
5,2 mil in October

and are now up to USD 132 million


Shocked

I need the names of the highest contributors because I have some bridges and magical snake oil for sale. FOR REAL! HONESTLY! I have JPGs to prove it! Come and watch and buy at BridgeCon!

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Nov 19, 2016, 14:25
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I didn't agree to the ToS change where they said no more refunds for early backers. I should get my money back if this is all they have after years of waiting.

PS - Derek Smart called it. I know people love hating on the guy but it is looking more and more like he is right about this train wreck.
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Nov 19, 2016, 13:54
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Nov 19, 2016, 13:54
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 13:46:
El Pit wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 12:29:
Peeeling wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 12:18:
Translation: "We don't have enough money left to finish what we promised a hundred million dollars ago".

Also:

Chris Roberts wrote on Nov 18, 2016, 12:00:
Not just in the salaries of the hundreds of people pouring their hearts into the project, but in the unpredictability of the groundbreaking technology that we need to develop to achieve a game of this scale and detail.

Translation: All the timelines we will give to you mean NOTHING because of the unpredictability [of the chairman] and scale and detail [that the chairman asked and is still asking for].

Project implosion within the next 12 months, I am afraid... Unless the believers buy SHIPS! AND MORE SHIPS! AND FLEETS!!!

As far as trusting RSI timelines they deserve no belief.

Does anyone know if funding is still coming in at the same levels as a year ago? That will determine if they'll still be in business in 2018 or not.


They pulled in abt USD 1,9 mil in April
1,3 mil in May
2,2 mil in June
900k in July
4,5 mil in August
2,5 mil in September
5,2 mil in October

and are now up to USD 132 million

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Nov 19, 2016, 13:46
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Nov 19, 2016, 13:46
 
El Pit wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 12:29:
Peeeling wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 12:18:
Translation: "We don't have enough money left to finish what we promised a hundred million dollars ago".

Also:

Chris Roberts wrote on Nov 18, 2016, 12:00:
Not just in the salaries of the hundreds of people pouring their hearts into the project, but in the unpredictability of the groundbreaking technology that we need to develop to achieve a game of this scale and detail.

Translation: All the timelines we will give to you mean NOTHING because of the unpredictability [of the chairman] and scale and detail [that the chairman asked and is still asking for].

Project implosion within the next 12 months, I am afraid... Unless the believers buy SHIPS! AND MORE SHIPS! AND FLEETS!!!

As far as trusting RSI timelines they deserve no belief.

Does anyone know if funding is still coming in at the same levels as a year ago? That will determine if they'll still be in business in 2018 or not.
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Nov 19, 2016, 13:33
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Phasenoise wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 12:18:
Every time I see star marine, I channel Jensen with "I never asked for this..."

Yeah well, you got the bonus plan baby!

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Nov 19, 2016, 13:30
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The Half Elf wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 12:12:
You want new contributors Chris Roberts? THEN SHIP THE FUCKING GAME YOU PROMISED TO HAVE SHIPPED BY NOW!
"New money will go towards concept and top tier ships"

WTF DUDE WHERE IS THE FUCKING MONEY THAT WAS ALREADY GIVEN TO YOU?!?

Also want to know the specs of the systems, cause we went through this shit with Alan Wake and the mega computer from the future they used for the tech demo's and come to find out it was pretty much gutted to work on a 360.
Fuck it.


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Nov 19, 2016, 13:26
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Creston wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 11:51:
I will say this: It is unbelievably pretty. Is this all in-engine? If so, that's just ... Drool

Really cool music too in the second video.
Well that money had to go somewhere. At least it's on the screen. I just wish they had better balance between engine creation and content creation. As many are fond of pointing out, an engine without content is just a tech demo.
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That schedule crap is a response to a growing part of the fanbase becoming ever more impatient. The hardcore fantard cultists are still defending everything to the death, of course, but even the regular core fans were now -finally- getting pretty fucking annoyed with the lack of progress this year.
See here for a recent thread (which was closed, of course, since you can not have criticism in Roberts land).

The CitizenCon no-show of Squadron 42 was quite a downer for many. Many also found it disappointing that Star Marine still hasn't come out. Remember: it was originally promised for an early 2015 release and in August 2015 it was supposedly only "weeks away, not months" according to the devs.
It is now supposedly getting closer for real but as we can see from the livestream it's apparently also way less tactical than originally promised. The promise was Rainbow Six/ArmA tactical depth and slow gameplay. The reality is it's CoD/BF/Crysis.
It has also become very obvious that 3.0, which many of the cultist sheeple got hyped up for real bad, is not going to happen this year.

As a result of all of these failures to deliver, even the dumbest of the dumb cows are now finally starting to see through the bait and switch scheme, where there is this huge gaping discrepancy between all the flashy trailers'n'demos and the actual delivery.

CIG are simply trying to buy time with the schedule transparency. It will have to remain to be seen whether they will really update it regularly or if it is a one trick pony for maximizing money intake from the impending anniversary sale next week.

Going by their incredibly shitty track record, it is probably the latter. They can not even keep their ships stats page updated on a current basis in spite of the fact that they have a so called "director of spaceships" on the team and dozens of people whose only job it is to coordinate the exchange of ships assets and info between the various studios.

The result: Abysmally outdated ship stats cuz it's apparently too hard for a team of 370 people to maintain a single central Excel sheet of stats.

Why should the schedule crap end up being different? It's obviously just an attempt to restore a little faith right before the big sale next week. The only thing that is transparent about it is the cheapness of the move.
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Nov 19, 2016, 13:00
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Nov 19, 2016, 12:59
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Armengar wrote on Nov 19, 2016, 12:57:
Ship the game.

The problem is right THERE!

What game? Believers talk about playing the game, but it is just a tech demo. It's like saying that qtest was actually the completed game Quake.
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