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Re: Evening Safety Dance
Nov 13, 2016, 08:09
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Genesys wrote on Nov 12, 2016, 23:22:
You can also just leave the Windows Updates screen open overnight; that's what I had to do on my PC (32-bit W7) and also a relative's (64-bit W7). Something to do with an extremely inefficient algorithm for determining patch dependencies, but fixed by later patches. It will eventually build the list of patches it needs and download them.
That is the easiest way to do it.

Even with an inefficient algorithm you would think that an 8 core i7 with 32 gb or ram could crunch the numbers a little faster.
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Re: Evening Safety Dance
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Cutter wrote on Nov 12, 2016, 00:54:
Yeah, update just runs forever without actually doing anything - yeah I'm using 7 64bit Pro. Thanks for the links and advice folks, I'll give those a whirl later. It's just fucking ridicurous that people have to piss around like this to begin with. No one can tell me MS isn't aware of this and could fix it if there were so inclined, because after all it's just so much easier to upgrade to Spywin 10, isn't it?
You can also just leave the Windows Updates screen open overnight; that's what I had to do on my PC (32-bit W7) and also a relative's (64-bit W7). Something to do with an extremely inefficient algorithm for determining patch dependencies, but fixed by later patches. It will eventually build the list of patches it needs and download them.
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Nov 12, 2016, 16:17
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RedEye9 wrote on Nov 12, 2016, 08:36:
I doubt it, most people around here would not piss in his mouth if his teeth were on fire.
I have posted the remedy several times and blue has even linked to the guys thread. But this whackjob put me on ignore so fuck em. Lifes to short to help morons.

haha, I think we're all morons and whackjobs about some topic/s, at least according to someone out there who will inevitably disagree with something we say.

Sometimes I might think he's a crazy, sometimes I might agree with him (I know, I should stop smoking petroleum lol).
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Re: Evening Safety Dance
Nov 12, 2016, 08:09
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Cutter wrote on Nov 12, 2016, 00:54:

Furious2


Hey you grumpy old fart, you should enable getting messages via here, someone might send you something useful inbetween all the hatemail lol
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Re: Evening Safety Dance
Nov 12, 2016, 00:54
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Nov 12, 2016, 00:54
 
Yeah, update just runs forever without actually doing anything - yeah I'm using 7 64bit Pro. Thanks for the links and advice folks, I'll give those a whirl later. It's just fucking ridicurous that people have to piss around like this to begin with. No one can tell me MS isn't aware of this and could fix it if there were so inclined, because after all it's just so much easier to upgrade to Spywin 10, isn't it?

Furious2

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Re: Evening Safety Dance
Nov 12, 2016, 00:41
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Me too! I have also had enough! Wait, what are we talking about? Anti-competitive practices in Windows? Oh. Is that still a thing people find surprising?



As for the win7 update thing (happens on Win8 too btw), yeah it's just fucked up. Fortunately you can still push updates out through SCCM or a WSUS so we can get around it at work, but it's pretty damn irritating.

Thanks for the tip, Hanover, we'll have to give that a try!

Also, the System Update Readiness Tool seems to alleviate the issues on some of the machines I've tried it on.

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Re: Evening Safety Dance
Nov 11, 2016, 23:01
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Nov 11, 2016, 23:01
 
Not sure if you are still having the Win7 patching issue, but I run into this at work all the time. My current best solution for a fresh install that refuses to patch is the following (assuming you installed 64-bit):

1. WindowsUpdateAgent-7.6-x64.exe from here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/949104 (This may or may not be necessary, but I install it now from habit)
2. Windows6.1-KB3050265-x64.msu from here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=47351
3. Windows6.1-KB3102810-x64.msu from here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=49540

Install in that order and reboot when prompted. Hope this helps. It worked for me on the last few fresh installs.

Hmm, I notice now that I've spent the time typing this out that you may not be having the same issue, since you mentioned "wont update anymore". My issue was that on a fresh install of Win7, it simply runs forever searching for Windows Updates. This fixes that issue. YMMV.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
Nov 11, 2016, 20:43
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Seriously? Come on, you can do better than that.
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Tom wrote on Nov 11, 2016, 20:09:
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Wall of text all over the place so don't forget Bush Senior was Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, our equivalent to the KGB. His presidency should be considered with a grain of salt.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
Nov 11, 2016, 20:09
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Nov 11, 2016, 20:09
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Microsoft is doing some douchey stuff here no doubt, but the AV industry is an utter cesspool and they brought this on themselves. The typical third party AV product does a tremendous amount of damage and really doesn't protect people much better than Defender, or even nothing at all. They do everything they can to trick ignorant folks into paying for their garbage. They don't care about the third party software developers THEY screw over with their false positives that stay broken forever.

I'd rather have MS in control with a relatively innocuous AV system than any of that third party trash software.

Btw, Putin, a former KGB operative, has recently announced a major initiative to rid Russia of Microsoft software and attack Microsoft as much as possible. (Of course he's more than happy to exploit Microsoft software in order to influence US elections.) Kaspersky, the man and the company, has a background with the KGB/FSB/military and extensive ties to the Russian government in general. His comments should be considered in their proper context.
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Re: Evening Safety Dance
Nov 11, 2016, 19:48
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Cutter wrote on Nov 11, 2016, 18:33:
I just did a fresh install of Win 7 and it won't update anymore.

Get the "Free version" with all the updates slipstreamed into the ISO.
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Re: Evening Safety Dance
Nov 11, 2016, 19:35
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Cutter wrote on Nov 11, 2016, 18:33:
I just did a fresh install of Win 7 and it won't update anymore. I've jumped through all manner of hoops to try and get it to work including the last service rollup they did and it still won't update - even though it says there are updates available. And from my searches on the subject this seems to be very common now. However no one has any problem upgrading to Win10 if they're inclined to. I'm firmly on the side of believing this is absolutely intentional at this point.

Updates for Win7 were broken in December 2015 and again this June. So middle of the Win10 offer and the last month of the offer. Purely coincidental I'm sure.

Anyway as for your problem I just did a reinstall of Win7 for family and hit the same thing. Thought it was odd when a clean install only had 18 updates available. Had to manually install two KB's and so far it's still updating for them. Try looking through this thread and start at the end as the KB's from Jan are now outdated.
Satella broke my Win7.

edit> Called them up and they still had them on there computer. Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium. Full package names:
Windows6.1-KB3020369-x64.msu
Windows6.1-KB3172605-x64.msu

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Re: Evening Safety Dance
Nov 11, 2016, 18:33
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Nov 11, 2016, 18:33
 
I just did a fresh install of Win 7 and it won't update anymore. I've jumped through all manner of hoops to try and get it to work including the last service rollup they did and it still won't update - even though it says there are updates available. And from my searches on the subject this seems to be very common now. However no one has any problem upgrading to Win10 if they're inclined to. I'm firmly on the side of believing this is absolutely intentional at this point.
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Re: Evening Safety Dance
Nov 11, 2016, 17:54
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RedEye9 wrote on Nov 11, 2016, 17:34:
Eugene K says it like it is, i bet other av's will speak out about Microsoft's practices.

Wasn't Microsoft taken to court for this type of practice before?

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Re: Evening Safety Dance
Nov 11, 2016, 17:34
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Eugene K says it like it is, i bet other av's will speak out about Microsoft's practices.
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