Bodolza wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 17:57:
Mordecai Walfish wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 17:28:
DNC let everyone down by simply picking Hillary because it was 'her turn'
The DNC didn't "pick" anybody. That's revising history. The leaked e-mails didn't show any mass conspiracy. In fact, there were e-mails both for and against Hilary.
If that's your opinion, you're welcome to it. The Republican and Democratic parties, however, work very hard at the kind of corruption that they adhere to. They want you to think everything is lollipops and rainbows, nothing to see here. It's already been studied that America is an Oligarchy (not a democracy) for years, run by an insane asylum and sank fast, ranking lower than other types of democracies around the globe.
As a third party member, but also supported friends that supported Bernie, I could tell something fishy was happening. Corruption and "Conspiracy" are two sides of the same coin. And don't just take that from me, there is evidence of fraud. Trump was also right when he said the elections are rigged, but they are not rigged in the way he thinks - the CPD rigged the elections since the 90s when they shut down the League of Women Voters, effectively shutting out Third Parties which Walter Cronkite called a fraud on the American people.
“The difference between the reported totals, and our best estimate of the actual vote, varies considerably from state to state. However these differences are significant—sometimes more than 10%—and could change the outcome of the election.” - Fritz Scheuren, professor of statistics at George Washington University, President of the American Statistical Association (ASA)Elliot Crown - it IS possible software stole votes
Election Justice also has the following study (Democracy Lost
with findings that Bernie Sanders won the Democratic primaries, but was denied victory from the following types of election fraud (pg. 95):Dear Democrats, Read This If You Do Not Understand Why Trump Won
1) Targeted voter suppression
2) Registration tampering
3) Illegal voter purges
4) Exit polling discrepancies
5) Evidence for voting machine tampering
6) The security (or lack thereof) of various voting machine types
“Based on this work, Election Justice USA has established an upper estimate of 184 pledged delegates lost by Senator Bernie Sanders as a consequence of specific irregularities and instances of fraud. Adding these delegates to Senator Sanders’ pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton’s total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates. EJUSA established the upper estimate through exit polling data, statistical analysis by precinct size, and attention to the details of Democratic proportional awarding of national delegates. Even small changes in vote shares in critical states like Massachusetts and New York could have substantially changed the media narrative surrounding the primaries in ways that would likely have had far reaching consequences for Senator Sanders’ campaign.” (15 Minute Analysis of this study by Lee Camp)
"Wikileaks was not Russian propaganda, it was the news.Why Trump Won; Why Hillary Lost
Wikileaks has a 10-year record of never releasing a single falsified document, and is not connected to Russia. Everything they released were the actual e-mails of Hillary Clinton and her campaign staff. You had the opportunity to look through a window into the Hillary Clinton campaign, but you didn’t."
- By the honorable Robert Parry (famous journalist who helped expose Iran-Contra)
Other countries and their people or leaders are not my enemy and I do not engage in dangerous McCarthyism.
In any case, now is not the time to give up. It's about growing movements, trying to come together across the divide, and doing our best to hold politicians or Presidents with their feet to the fire. There is plenty of room in activist groups such as anti-war, peace, environmental, human-rights, and general advocacy groups against corruption.