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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:42
PHJF
 
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Nov 9, 2016, 14:42
 PHJF
 
Why do you think the GOP elites were so opposed to him?

Because they feared Hillary and figured Trump was not electable. They underestimated one thing, though: the resounding stupidity of a huge swath of Americans. Electing trump is the national equivalent of a toddler throwing a tantrum. He'll probably just resign once he realizes the president doesn't actually just get all the keys to the castle and he isn't able to just fuck everything up and kick over sandcastles like he wants to. I'm sure he doesn't have any *actual* interest in governing and the whole election was just some massive lark.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:39
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Nov 9, 2016, 14:39
 
BobBob wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 14:32:
I hope he does one thing, that's sort of expected of his campaign, and that's fight crime. It's surging and spreading in waves and it's getting to the point where places that used to feel safe are full of gangs, graffiti, shootings, and thugs. I'm not asking for a totalitarian regime or some kind of police state, but I'm tired of losing the freedom to walk the streets. I actually thought if Hillary won she'd push for better law enforcement as well, as Bill did.

Freedom to be safe and walk the streets should be considered a 'right'.
National crime stats are at decades-low rates, three times lower than just 20 years ago. If there's a surge in your area, it's local, and you can probably bug your local rep to do something about it.

I don't think he can bring jobs back... corporations don't give out jobs as a charity, they are greedy. Besides, automation like AI, robots, and autonomous vehicles .. that's going to destroy jobs more than anything else and no candidate has ever addressed that problem.
Yeah, he promised that kind of thing, but he really doesn't have the ability to do that. Yet his constituency chose him for that reason in large part.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:35
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Nov 9, 2016, 14:35
 
Kxmode wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 14:33:
So far I've made $94 on my mutual fund investments. So there's that. That's about as far as I go. Yay for neutrality!

If you're smart and you can, buy as much as you can afford when they drop. They will rebound, as always.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:33
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Nov 9, 2016, 14:33
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 14:27:
Did someone just say they expect less war under Trump, a guy who has basically been fighting never-ending Twitter wars on all fronts since the day Twitter launched? A guy whose feathers get ruffled and can't take criticism? A guy who, when asked, talks about how weak the leaders of our closest allies are and cites dictators as good, strong leaders?

On the one hand, he's used a lot of isolationist rhetoric, like building a wall, making tariffs, stopping immigration, etc. On the other hand, he's talked about using nukes, and bombing ISIS back to the stone age.
“We’ve reached the point of this polarized pandemic where our current plan for salvation is convincing certain recalcitrant men that wearing masks is the testosteroney thing to do.“
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:33
Kxmode
 
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Nov 9, 2016, 14:33
 Kxmode
 
So far I've made $94 on my mutual fund investments. So there's that. That's about as far as I go. Yay for neutrality!
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:32
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Re: Out of the Blue Nov 9, 2016, 14:32
Nov 9, 2016, 14:32
 
I hope he does one thing, that's sort of expected of his campaign, and that's fight crime. It's surging and spreading in waves and it's getting to the point where places that used to feel safe are full of gangs, graffiti, shootings, and thugs. I'm not asking for a totalitarian regime or some kind of police state, but I'm tired of losing the freedom to walk the streets. I actually thought if Hillary won she'd push for better law enforcement as well, as Bill did.

Freedom to be safe and walk the streets should be considered a 'right'.

I don't think he can bring jobs back... corporations don't give out jobs as a charity, they are greedy. Besides, automation like AI, robots, and autonomous vehicles .. that's going to destroy jobs more than anything else and no candidate has ever addressed that problem.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:29
Cutter
 
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Nov 9, 2016, 14:29
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Nimh wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 13:33:
I'm an American working in our Canadian office.. I came in this morning expecting to get interrogated about what's wrong with Americans, like so many times before. Everyone was just laughing though.

Exactly. Except for the hardcore lefties I know most people seem to think this is actually pretty funny, myself included. Can't say I want the guy to be prez, but I sure as hell didn't want Hilly as prez either.

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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:28
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Nov 9, 2016, 14:28
 
Verno wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 13:12:
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 13:09:
Yes, I am a white male who is racist against white males, well done.

There is a surprising amount of internalized racism in the world but your point was pretty clear initially, I suspect he was just trolling you.

I wouldn't be so quick as to dismiss all of Trumps support as racism though. Way too convenient a scapegoat for a much more complex issue.

You're right, it's not all about racism. As I discussed yesterday, there are two main factors that influence most of the smaller ones: the shrinking of the white base and the associated loss of power, and the America-as-oligarchy issue. Trump, whether intentionally or subconsciously, played both issues masterfully: opposing refugees, opposing immigration, opposing the TPP, talking up tariffs on China, bragging about how he bought and paid for politicians, etc. etc. Non-college whites are 40% of the electorate, and he got nearly 100% of that vote because these issues resonate with them.

Why were the polls off? We'll see in a few days what happened there, but my suspicion is that people lied to the pollsters. The most reliable polls are interview polls, and admitting you're voting for Trump is embarrassing given his crudeness.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:27
Beamer
 
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Nov 9, 2016, 14:27
 Beamer
 
Did someone just say they expect less war under Trump, a guy who has basically been fighting never-ending Twitter wars on all fronts since the day Twitter launched? A guy whose feathers get ruffled and can't take criticism? A guy who, when asked, talks about how weak the leaders of our closest allies are and cites dictators as good, strong leaders?
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:26
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Re: Out of the Blue Nov 9, 2016, 14:26
Nov 9, 2016, 14:26
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El Pit wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 12:04:
Cutter wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 12:02:
You can still be rich and anti-establishment, you know.

No, you can't, unless your mad like Howard Hughes. Or too full of yourself to understand that having millions and billions means that you have established yourself in the realm of the wealthy few.

Might be different in the cutterverse, though.

Plus: I was writing about how breaking promises made before the election would make him a typical established politician.

Why do you think the GOP elites were so opposed to him? He wasn't one of the old boys club. He's an outsider.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:11
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Nov 9, 2016, 14:11
 
Muscular Beaver wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 13:13:
And sorry, I am only making fun of you now, because once I detected hypocrisy in someone, I know its useless to have a real discussion with him/her.
So, you don't think I'm really ashamed of my race or sex? You'd be wrong, I am. I find it highly disappointing they were so easily duped.

If you are referring to my response to you implying I am a racist, that was simple sarcasm not hypocrisy.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:10
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Nov 9, 2016, 14:10
 
BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

Take that bitches! The trolls always win!
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 14:01
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Nov 9, 2016, 14:01
 
DangerDog wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 13:50:
nin wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 11:28:
Feels like a funeral today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js




Found a good video that summarizes the result for many.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 13:50
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Nov 9, 2016, 13:50
 
nin wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 11:28:
Feels like a funeral today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js



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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 13:43
Verno
 
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Nov 9, 2016, 13:43
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Pigeon wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 13:25:
Maybe the dems will actually support someone with a better reputation next time. Whether or not Hillary actually did any of the shit she is accused of doing, there were enough people who believed she did or found her untrustworthy because of the zeitgeist made of such accusations, that she was vulnerable to this. All I can say is I hope I am wrong about all the shit I think is going to happen. Also wonder if Hillary is packing to skip town, he did promise he'd put her in prison.

She probably could've won a few of those swing states with a Bernie VP ticket, assuming he would've considered it in the first place. Regardless the youth, latino and black turnouts were very low, she totally failed to inspire or energize the far left base that Obama enjoyed. Worse, the Dems lost a lot of "blue dog" support in their own party. It was a really poor showing considering the amount of money and media in her corner. Her speech today was good though and its pretty clear shes done with politics.

Rather than blaming Trump or his supporters, the Dems should be taking a long introspective pause unless they want to be on the sidelines again. Not going to get anywhere with the "scold the rednecks agenda", I think last nights performance proved that. Can't control what your opposition does but you can certainly control your own actions and there's plenty of blame within.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 13:33
Nimh
 
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Nov 9, 2016, 13:33
 Nimh
 
I'm an American working in our Canadian office.. I came in this morning expecting to get interrogated about what's wrong with Americans, like so many times before. Everyone was just laughing though.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 13:25
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Nov 9, 2016, 13:25
 
Verno wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 12:59:
Wallshadows wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 12:49:
Good thing he shit on his party enough so Congress won't give him an inch. Probably the only time it's good to have a Republican majority.

Oh I think they'll see eye to eye on enough things to forgive the campaign. Washington is all about self preservation and he didn't hurt the party at all, arguably he bolstered a lot of races.

I think the Republican establishment is afraid of him. They'll probably fall inline because he can rake them over the coals with the voting base, at least until(if) things go to shit and they can throw him in front of the bus.

Maybe the dems will actually support someone with a better reputation next time. Whether or not Hillary actually did any of the shit she is accused of doing, there were enough people who believed she did or found her untrustworthy because of the zeitgeist made of such accusations, that she was vulnerable to this. All I can say is I hope I am wrong about all the shit I think is going to happen. Also wonder if Hillary is packing to skip town, he did promise he'd put her in prison.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 13:13
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Nov 9, 2016, 13:13
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 13:09:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 12:46:
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 12:43:
Can you abdicate your race and sex? I'm not enjoying being associated with the group (white males) who elected this... person.
That sounds more racist than anything Trump ever said.
Yes, I am a white male who is racist against white males, well done.
There never were black people who were racists against blacks?
Hmmm... I guess the moon is a square then. Always learning something new!
And sorry, I am only making fun of you now, because once I detected hypocrisy in someone, I know its useless to have a real discussion with him/her.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 13:12
Verno
 
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Nov 9, 2016, 13:12
 Verno
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 13:09:
Yes, I am a white male who is racist against white males, well done.

There is a surprising amount of internalized racism in the world but your point was pretty clear initially, I suspect he was just trolling you.

I wouldn't be so quick as to dismiss all of Trumps support as racism though. Way too convenient a scapegoat for a much more complex issue.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Nov 9, 2016, 13:09
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Nov 9, 2016, 13:09
 
Muscular Beaver wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 12:46:
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 12:43:
Can you abdicate your race and sex? I'm not enjoying being associated with the group (white males) who elected this... person.
That sounds more racist than anything Trump ever said.
Yes, I am a white male who is racist against white males, well done.
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