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Re: Morning Mobilization
Sep 24, 2016, 17:48
Quboid
 
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Re: Morning Mobilization Sep 24, 2016, 17:48
Sep 24, 2016, 17:48
 Quboid
 
Task wrote on Sep 24, 2016, 13:56:
And to Cutter, aren't you Canadian and you're saying Third Parties can't win? It wasn't long ago when the "liberal party" dropped to third party status in Canada, then came back.

Canada is different. Pretty much everywhere is different, the US is much more dominated by two parties than other democracies.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
Sep 24, 2016, 13:56
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Re: Morning Mobilization Sep 24, 2016, 13:56
Sep 24, 2016, 13:56
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Sep 22, 2016, 13:26:
Task wrote on Sep 22, 2016, 12:48:
Additionally the 'official' polling also does not include millennials for some dumb reason,

This is where I stopped and said "WTF".

Your comment is fair in your confusion. I was posting on my phone when I don't have time to consult my oodles of information bookmarked. Since most don't go out to find out for themselves the context of what someone says, here is what I was trying to convey.

The "official" polls I speak of are ones the CPD agrees to, just one of many corrupt corporations, and the one that controls the Presidential Debates after shutting out the League of Women Voters.

https://ivn.us/2016/09/05/cnn-presidential-polls-used-cpd-shortchange-entire-generation/

In 2016, every single CNN poll for the general election has failed to adequately sample Americans aged 18-34. While other age groups have their results listed in terms of their % agreement to different questions, the CNN documentation lists “N/A” for those aged 18-34 (i.e., the Millennials).

"In 2016, every single CNN poll for the general election has failed to adequately sample Americans aged 18-34.

The reason?

“Some subgroups represent too small a share of the national population to produce crosstabs with an acceptable sampling error.” Groups that are “too small” receive the “N/A.”

And to Dreyer, I don't see how Jill Stein is an idiot. I need examples. She is the only peace and Anti-TPP candidate period. Gary Johnson is for TPP and a supporter of Hillary, but semi-peace/slashing the defense budget. That's not good enough for me. I vote with my conscious, I vote for peace and anti-war and have done so since 2008 when I fully switched to Green Party by backing Cynthia McKinney, then Jill Stein in 2012.

And to Cutter, aren't you Canadian and you're saying Third Parties can't win? It wasn't long ago when the "liberal party" dropped to third party status in Canada, then came back.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 24, 2016, 11:16
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 24, 2016, 11:16
Sep 24, 2016, 11:16
 
Quboid wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 23:15:
Beamer wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 22:08:
Quboid wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 20:48:
What a load of garbage, far right fantasy with no relevance to reality. Honestly, pointing out bigotry is demagogy? Trump isn't just an embarrassment, he is dangerous.

It's legitimately terrifying that people believe that.




I presume you meant shiho. When I say dangerous...

Trump is just Cutter with money.

Of course, and wow. Just wow. That's the single most accurate post I've seen here in ages.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 24, 2016, 01:38
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 24, 2016, 01:38
Sep 24, 2016, 01:38
 
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 23, 2016, 23:15
Quboid
 
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 23, 2016, 23:15
Sep 23, 2016, 23:15
 Quboid
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 22:08:
Quboid wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 20:48:
What a load of garbage, far right fantasy with no relevance to reality. Honestly, pointing out bigotry is demagogy? Trump isn't just an embarrassment, he is dangerous.

It's legitimately terrifying that people believe that.




I presume you meant shiho. When I say dangerous...

Trump is just Cutter with money.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 23, 2016, 22:08
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 23, 2016, 22:08
Sep 23, 2016, 22:08
 
Quboid wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 20:48:
What a load of garbage, far right fantasy with no relevance to reality. Honestly, pointing out bigotry is demagogy? Trump isn't just an embarrassment, he is dangerous.

It's legitimately terrifying that people believe that.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 23, 2016, 20:48
Quboid
 
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 23, 2016, 20:48
Sep 23, 2016, 20:48
 Quboid
 
What a load of garbage, far right fantasy with no relevance to reality. Honestly, pointing out bigotry is demagogy? Trump isn't just an embarrassment, he is dangerous.

This comment was edited on Sep 23, 2016, 20:56.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 23, 2016, 20:06
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 23, 2016, 20:06
Sep 23, 2016, 20:06
 
Hey look a totally normal guy who doesn't spend his days obsessing over the "other" which happens in this case to be Muslims.

That wall of text is like a compilation the greatest hits of internet bigots.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 23, 2016, 20:04
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 23, 2016, 20:04
Sep 23, 2016, 20:04
 
Good god... what an absolute dumpsterfire of a post. The things you think are facts are... hilarious.

Ignoring your completely made up statistics about "muslim polls"... Do you have even the slightest idea how the Syrian refugee program works? (hint: no, you obviously don't).

Oh... That "muslim who killed 50 people in orlando"? WAS A US CITIZEN, NOT A FUCKING REFUGEE. Jesus christ... just stop posting. Your ignorance knows no bounds.

I'd pick the rest of this nonsense apart but really... what's the point? You've clearly gone off the deep end when it comes to fact checking your OWN post and I'm doubting that anyone here is taking what you wrote seriously anyway. Troll harder, troll better... just do something different, please. Your diarrhea salad of every batshit right wing trump-fed conspiracy is not even amusing.

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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 23, 2016, 19:11
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 23, 2016, 19:11
Sep 23, 2016, 19:11
 
Quboid wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 10:02:
Obama isn't a massive bigot. Trump is. People hate Trump because Trump hates people.

Obama got plenty of hatred, including loads from racists like Trump.

So Trump jokes that he would date his daughter. Or he calls some woman a pig.

Meanwhile Obama imports unreformed Muslims who believe that women are a subservient class, and homosexuality is a sin. A good (double-digit) percentage of those Muslims believe in Sharia Law specifically, aka stoning gays and clitoral mutilation.

You think I am being dramatic or exaggerating? The data on Muslims is supported by multiple polls. While most of the imported Muslims are (supposedly) moderate (and yet still their wives look like ninjas in public), a significant percentage is simply incompatible with SOCIALLY LIBERAL Western Values.

30+% of Muslims that France let in, believe that violent jihad is an appropriate response to someone "offending" Islam.

Britain has "No-Go" zones for non-Muslims. This religion, which comes with a bonus governing structure (Sharia Law) is the hardest to assimilate, and is responsible for the majority of current armed conflicts around the world.

This is because Islam is 500 years younger than Christianity, another Abrahamic religion which went through a similar violent radical period. And yet nobody can just "fix it" and propel Islam 500 years into the future, because there is no magic wand.

Trump is the one trying to put the brakes on the Muslim import process until we have a vetting process which isn't just smoke and mirrors. Syrian infrastructure is in shambles, so there are no records to check, and Obama's minions are not going to subject anyone to real psychological testing. Obama actually refuses to use the term "radical Islam", period.

That Muslim who killed 50 gays in Orlando night club? Not an Islamic terrorist, according to Obama.

So... one person is knowingly importing a good deal of violent homophobes and oppressors of women. The other is trying to stop it.

Remember that big scandal about the priests molesting children? Even though vast majority of them did no such thing, would you like to start indiscriminately importing thousands MORE priests from under the same general umbrella into the country, without any psychological or prior-crime screening, guaranteeing -for certain- that you'll have dozens of sexual predators traumatizing children for life?

What, you say? Yes, you would?



Mind you, the percentage of radical (or rather, "serious") Muslims, to one degree or another, is much higher than the percentage of perverted priests in the Christian church (which is 4%).

Based on his actions, Obama is actually the biggest homophobe, anti-feminist bigot in the country. He signed the equality of marriage act (because it was highly visible and showered him in praise), and yet he is purposely failing to protect the gay community.

Nothing Trump said or did even compares to the scale of damage that Obama is doing. And hopefully the LGBT population at least starts to wake up and see who really is on their side.

Stop only paying attention to words. That's how you are manipulated. Anyone can stand at the podium and spout demagogy about "fairness", "Islamophobia" and any other trigger words that you've been automatically programmed to react to.

Look at the person's actions, and the data. That's how you start thinking for yourself.

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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 23, 2016, 13:30
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 23, 2016, 13:30
Sep 23, 2016, 13:30
 
Quboid wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 10:02:
In 2007-2008 election period, Obama has not been subjected to 1% of the smearing and hatred that Trump has been at the receiving end of.

Obama isn't a massive bigot. Trump is. People hate Trump because Trump hates people.

Obama got plenty of hatred, including loads from racists like Trump.

IIRC, Obama has received more death threats than all other presidents combined.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 23, 2016, 10:08
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 23, 2016, 10:08
Sep 23, 2016, 10:08
 
Quboid wrote on Sep 23, 2016, 10:02:
In 2007-2008 election period, Obama has not been subjected to 1% of the smearing and hatred that Trump has been at the receiving end of.

Obama isn't a massive bigot. Trump is. People hate Trump because Trump hates people.

While we're at it, how come Ben Franklin isn't subjected to nearly the ridicule that Richard Nixon is, they're both historic figures?! How come Enron is the butt of jokes while Tesla is lauded. It just isn't fair!!!!!11!
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 23, 2016, 10:02
Quboid
 
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 23, 2016, 10:02
Sep 23, 2016, 10:02
 Quboid
 
In 2007-2008 election period, Obama has not been subjected to 1% of the smearing and hatred that Trump has been at the receiving end of.

Obama isn't a massive bigot. Trump is. People hate Trump because Trump hates people.

Obama got plenty of hatred, including loads from racists like Trump.

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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 23, 2016, 04:55
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 23, 2016, 04:55
Sep 23, 2016, 04:55
 
Cutter wrote on Sep 22, 2016, 16:51:
The only way a third party would ever win is it would have to be a moderate centrist party. The Greens and Libertarians are just way too out there for the mainstream.

There's actually no such thing as "centrism." It's been proven empirically. People have opinions.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Sep 23, 2016, 04:30
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Sep 23, 2016, 04:30
Sep 23, 2016, 04:30
 
Task wrote on Sep 22, 2016, 12:48:
- lowest voter turnout (2012) at 54% in American history, between 1800-1900 it was 80-90%

To be fair, in the 19th century voting day was a big, exclusively white male pissup. I bet we would get 90% of eligible voters out if we were getting bribed by booze to crawl from booth to booth these days as well. I would be up at 7am if this was the case. It would be like a little one day Oktoberfest.

Really feeling for you guys, and all the smaller countries whose governments and economies are utterly corrupted by your multinationals and intelligence agencies.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 23, 2016, 04:21
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 23, 2016, 04:21
Sep 23, 2016, 04:21
 
Quboid wrote on Sep 22, 2016, 22:07:
Yeah, I don't really believe any of that. You tried, so it looks like you're trying to convince yourself.

Well then, the resulting conclusion is that I want Hillary to drop out of the race for reasons OTHER than her health, while knowing that there are several candidates who are far more likeable and have better chances of winning than her.

Leading this chain of logic to its conclusion, I want Bernie (passionate and less corrupt) or Michelle Obama (a younger, fresher female Presidential candidate) to run, or pretty much ANY FRESH DEMOCRAT FACE, increasing the chances of Democrats winning, which makes me a Democrat.

Yeah, that makes sense.

In reality, actually, if I was heartless, I would want Hillary to keep running, as her campaign is circling the drain.

It just hurts to see someone get so strained and humiliated, with an EMT following her everywhere, having weird seizures and scaring reporters, fainting and being dragged into a van. She will probably have a humiliating health moment at the debate as well. She is scaring the Left, which is why Obama has made a desperate plea saying that this election is not about Hillary, but about his "progress", and that he would be personally insulted if you don't vote Democrat.

You've convinced yourself that Trump is a *victim* of hatred so this is a piece of cake.

If you've been following the news at all, all major networks, and even Fox News's "Kelly File", have been attacking Trump on regular basis. They also set him up during the first Republican debate. He has been under assault from both political parties. Even conservative talk show host Mark Levin dislikes him, and that nutcase Glenn Beck downright hates him.

In 2007-2008 election period, Obama has not been subjected to 1% of the smearing and hatred that Trump has been at the receiving end of. The media attacks have been absolutely massive, not just on Trump and his family, but anyone who dares to give him a fair shake. Most recently the Left has turned on their very own Jimmy Fallon, for daring to have Trump on his show and being "softball" with him in the same exact way as all late-night show hosts have been with Hillary.

I started fast-forwarding Conan O'Brien's opening dialogue a long time ago, because his first joke is always about Trump, often a skit that goes on forever, then another one, also about Trump, etc. None about Hillary, though.

You know how the media reported the violence of anti-Trump protesters who were blocking people access, yelling and even physically assaulting his supporters? "Trump-fueled violence" said the headlines.

Trump rallies received far more coverage in order to make them seem like violence orgies, than did the Occupy Movement, which was full or actual assault, rape and defacing of public property.

His rallies have always been filmed by the major media news sources in a zoomed-in way that hides the absolutely massive crowds he has been gathering.

Yet despite all these smears, Trump manages to continuously use jiu-jitsu on the media and direct its power against itself. He is an impressive strategist and a wise man. For a change.

It must be hard to imagine that there are people who are capable of separating the human from their politics, and this is a pattern that has become very prominent on the Left.

The second half of that sentence shows that you're not one of the people you refer to in the first half.

I'm capable of separating people from their politics, including the people who have trouble separating me from my politics. Try not to dislocate something with those mental gymnastics

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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 22, 2016, 22:07
Quboid
 
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Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 22, 2016, 22:07
Sep 22, 2016, 22:07
 Quboid
 
Yeah, I don't really believe any of that. You tried, so it looks like you're trying to convince yourself. You've convinced yourself that Trump is a *victim* of hatred so this is a piece of cake.

It must be hard to imagine that there are people who are capable of separating the human from their politics, and this is a pattern that has become very prominent on the Left.

The second half of that sentence shows that you're not one of the people you refer to in the first half.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 22, 2016, 21:17
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Sep 22, 2016, 21:17
 
If they enabled comments then that's going to be a gold mine.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 22, 2016, 19:26
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shiho wrote on Sep 22, 2016, 17:41:
I don't care of that makes Pence the candidate, or of it gives Sanders another stab at it, or whoever else - I have this feeling that Hillary should say, "fuck your expectations, fuck the money, fuck the promises, it's my life and I choose to live it".
Pence would switch political parties if Clinton dropped out of the race? That would be interesting to see!

I would vote for Clinton even if she had a terminal illness and was expected to die soon after being elected. Kaine is MUCH more preferable than Trump or Pence.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Sep 22, 2016, 19:09
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Quboid wrote on Sep 22, 2016, 17:52:
Going by the previous two posts in your history, I'm gonna have to say that this is massively insincere. I don't know if you're trying to convince us or yourself but I do not believe that you are concerned for Clinton's health in the slightest.

So, you think I want any of her potential replacements to run? Like Bernie Sanders, who is actually more popular than her, less corrupt, more passionate about his (misguided) cause, and would have a better chance, if the Democrat machine didn't stomp him down? Or maybe someone like Michelle Obama?

Yeah, that makes complete sense.

I have seen old people in my family get sick and die. I have been with them, through the assisted living facilities and the hospitals, and seen how unbearable and miserable it gets.

It must be hard to imagine that there are people who are capable of separating the human from their politics, and this is a pattern that has become very prominent on the Left.

Complete demonization of the opposition, "2 Minutes Hate" has been working marvelously. In my city there's now a naked statue of Trump, and I keep hearing all these "kill Trump" "jokes" with a disturbing frequency in my social ventures.

Never in my life did I say that I want Obama to die or get sick. Nor do I want to see Hillary in this state, regardless of how corrupt and destructive politically she is. On the ground level, we are all still human, and the most important thing is our health.

But keep projecting your smarmy cynical view onto others. What a fabulous life it must be.
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