Digital Homicide Sues Steam Users; Gets Dropped by Valve

TechRaptor has word that developer Digital Homicide is suing 100 Steam users over negative reviews, noting that this video from SidAlpha has the details. If this doesn't sound weird enough to start with, the fact that these users are being sued for $18 million might start the crazy phone ringing. Our editorializing may not be legally sound, as a judge has actually granted a subpoena for early discovery of the identity of these users. TechRaptor also notes the developer is also involved in a lawsuit with instigator Jim Sterling for being too Jim Sterling. The article also says the game's 18 titles on Steam were generally poorly reviewed shovelware, but you'll have to take their word for it, as Valve has responded to the legal action by ending their relationship with Digital Homicide and dropping all their games from the service. They quote Valve's Doug Lombardi, who explains, "Valve has stopped doing business with Digital Homicide for being hostile to Steam customers."
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Sep 20, 2016, 19:43
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Cutter wrote on Sep 18, 2016, 11:51:
Sepharo wrote on Sep 17, 2016, 23:08:
So now they're going to sue Valve right?
For completely ending their livelihood in one fell swoop.

What could they sue Valve for? Valve is covered under Safe Harbor and they can drop anyone anytime they please. And realistically their pockets are way too deep for these guys to take on.

I wasn't suggesting it was possible or made sense... Just seemed likely given these guys' mindset.
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Kxmode wrote on Sep 19, 2016, 19:15:
Digital Homicide has responded to Valve's move to drop their entire catalog from Steam for hostile actions towards its customers. Popcorn

Holy geocities, Batman! Who created that page?

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Digital Homicide has responded to Valve's move to drop their entire catalog from Steam for hostile actions towards its customers. Popcorn
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Sep 19, 2016, 13:06
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Sep 19, 2016, 13:06
 Rigs
 
Kajetan wrote on Sep 19, 2016, 07:06:
Rigs wrote on Sep 18, 2016, 22:33:
He has a site, a flourishing YT channel and years of gaming journalism experience.
He did not have a flourishing YT channel, he has a flourishing Patreon account. Youtube is just the place where he dumps his videos, he does not make any cent from that. He makes his living through Patreon contributions.

One thing the Romines are getting wrong ALL THE TIME

I'm very aware he has a Patreon account and that he makes no money on his YT videos. In fact, he routinely puts in gobs of copyrighted content knowing it'll get flagged by several different companies, thereby perpetuating the so-called 'copyright deadlock'. But he does care about how many subscribers he gets regardless of what he says because the more exposure, the more people will donate. He just doesn't rely solely on YT monetization to do so. Which is smart.

Prez wrote on Sep 19, 2016, 11:10:
Anyone who watches Jim Sterling's "Jimquisition" with any kind of regularity knows how scummy Digital Homicide is and probably won't be surprised at all by this news. Trouble is Steam would have to ban a half dozen other "developers" because the guys behind Digital Homicide have that many other names under which they release their shovelware.

I believe that's exactly what I said like three posts ago, ja?

=-Rigs-=
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Sep 19, 2016, 11:10
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 Prez
 
Anyone who watches Jim Sterling's "Jimquisition" with any kind of regularity knows how scummy Digital Homicide is and probably won't be surprised at all by this news. Trouble is Steam would have to ban a half dozen other "developers" because the guys behind Digital Homicide have that many other names under which they release their shovelware.
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I blame Clinton and other big government types. /waves
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Rigs wrote on Sep 18, 2016, 22:33:
He has a site, a flourishing YT channel and years of gaming journalism experience.
He did not have a flourishing YT channel, he has a flourishing Patreon account. Youtube is just the place where he dumps his videos, he does not make any cent from that. He makes his living through Patreon contributions.

One thing the Romines are getting wrong ALL THE TIME
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Sep 18, 2016, 22:33
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Sep 18, 2016, 22:33
 Rigs
 
Some of you don't realize that DH being barred from STEAM isn't going to effect them the way you think. They have a long history of putting games on STEAM under different dev names, shell companies. Unless Valve specifically keeps tabs on what companies put what on STEAM (I don't think they do), DH will be just fine not using their own name in the future. They'll probably include Valve in their complaint as specifically targeting them using false reports from users that were 'just out to bring harm to DH'.

In any event, I don't think this will go anywhere and I seriously doubt that ol' Mr. Sterling is worried. For all his obnoxiousness, I do respect the man. He's been in the gaming biz a long time and has done a lot of hard work, both in print, audio (podcasts, interviews) and video. And it's just him. I think he has just one guy helping out but that's it. He has a site, a flourishing YT channel and years of gaming journalism experience. And with every successful chap you get the dregs of the community that use said person as an excuse to cause mayhem in their name, which, unfortunately, Jim Sterling has in droves. He's pleaded repeatedly on his YT videos for them to not cause problems or to go after those he rails against in his videos. It's gotten him into trouble on a number of occasions yet I would imagine it's pretty hard to keep a leash on a group like that.


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Total-Khaos wrote on Sep 17, 2016, 16:39:
Creston wrote on Sep 17, 2016, 15:26:
Digital Fucktards figure that they better get their lawsuits in before Congress passes that bill that makes it illegal.

That legislation only prevents companies from including "gag clauses" in customer contracts, which gives the customer the freedom to leave a negative review of the services rendered if they choose to do so. However, if you are leaving untruthful or fake reviews in an attempt to damage that company, they can still sue you for defamation whether it be slander or libel.

Upon re-reading, you are indeed correct.
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Sep 18, 2016, 11:51
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Sepharo wrote on Sep 17, 2016, 23:08:
So now they're going to sue Valve right?
For completely ending their livelihood in one fell swoop.

What could they sue Valve for? Valve is covered under Safe Harbor and they can drop anyone anytime they please. And realistically their pockets are way too deep for these guys to take on.
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Cutter wrote on Sep 17, 2016, 20:14:
You have every right to express your opinion, just not engage in slander and/or libel.

And of list of some other things that seem to be growing.
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jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2016, 02:48:
Caslon wrote on Sep 17, 2016, 15:41:
The Romine brothers depended on Steam as there really is no other outlet to shovel their shovelware. They needed thousands and thousands of potential buyers so that they would get the inevitable suckers to buy their games. It's a profit formula based on the sheer number of Steam users. X number of Steam users = Y number of sucker buyers = Z profit. Since Steam has now dropped all their titles, it has destroyed that formula's chance for success. That formula is why they made these junk games in the first place, and now it's gone. The addage "There's a sucker born every minute" won't work for them anymore.

Shouldn't you be able to tell within the first 30 minutes or so that a game is awful, and refund it? How can this revenue model work under the new refund regime?

You would think, but a poster here played 40+ hours of a game and then whined like a beatch when a steam refund was denied. The derp of some people never ceases to amaze.

The revenue model works because a large majority of Steam users are ignorant of the refund program and its rules.
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Tipsy McStagger wrote on Sep 18, 2016, 00:34:
Pretty sure Valve just committed DIGITAL HOMICIDE to Digital Homicide by ending their relationship.

More like Digital Homicide committed DIGITAL SUICIDE by suing steam users... That's like being a sales rep and insulting your company's customers... contract terminated.
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jdreyer wrote on Sep 18, 2016, 02:48:

Shouldn't you be able to tell within the first 30 minutes or so that a game is awful, and refund it? How can this revenue model work under the new refund regime?

Maybe this was their plan all along. Create a ton of shitty games, get a ton of shitty reviews, then threaten lawsuits against everyone in the hopes that some of them will settle and pay them a few grand to not get sued.
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Caslon wrote on Sep 17, 2016, 15:41:
The Romine brothers depended on Steam as there really is no other outlet to shovel their shovelware. They needed thousands and thousands of potential buyers so that they would get the inevitable suckers to buy their games. It's a profit formula based on the sheer number of Steam users. X number of Steam users = Y number of sucker buyers = Z profit. Since Steam has now dropped all their titles, it has destroyed that formula's chance for success. That formula is why they made these junk games in the first place, and now it's gone. The addage "There's a sucker born every minute" won't work for them anymore.

Shouldn't you be able to tell within the first 30 minutes or so that a game is awful, and refund it? How can this revenue model work under the new refund regime?
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grudgebearer wrote on Sep 18, 2016, 01:29:
They have a response up on their terrible website

Looks like they are also looking for legal representation.

I don't get it. Don't developers have the ability to ban problem users from their forums? Look at how many game forums Cutter has been banned from, for example. Why not just ban these people?
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They have a response up on their terrible website

Looks like they are also looking for legal representation.
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Pretty sure Valve just committed DIGITAL HOMICIDE to Digital Homicide by ending their relationship.
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So now they're going to sue Valve right?
For completely ending their livelihood in one fell swoop.
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I believe on the Yelp thing a restaurant was suing Yelp over it's one star rating causing them to lose business. The ruling was the Yelp is not responsible for user generated content on it's site. That still leaves the review writers open to be sued I believe.
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