Quinn wrote on Aug 10, 2016, 13:20:

Bumpy wrote on Aug 10, 2016, 09:45:
If there is any game that screams 'wait till its patched and finished' before buying, it is this one.

What it screams even more is "wait till it has a or more major expansions". No base building, no home planet, no co-op or any real multiplayer to speak of in its current state... makes this game a 20 dollar product at most.

Can't argue with either of these statements. I always wait until at least the first expansion before buying Civ.

Bumpy wrote on Aug 10, 2016, 09:45:
If there is any game that screams 'wait till its patched and finished' before buying, it is this one.

What it screams even more is "wait till it has a or more major expansions". No base building, no home planet, no co-op or any real multiplayer to speak of in its current state... makes this game a 20 dollar product at most.

If there is any game that screams 'wait till its patched and finished' before buying, it is this one.

For crowds yeah but I'm not sure that applies to NPCs for like fights and quests and what not. Could be wrong though.

Quboid wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 16:16:
is a similarly bad problem as games like The Witcher 3 repeating a few different faces amongst many NPCs?

Didn't W3 have a video slider to increase crowd differences? I thought you could have a lot of unique NPCs.

People are finding some really cool (and also some really disturbing) critters in NMS.

Creston wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 11:13:

nin wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 09:19:

BitWraith wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 00:35:
It'll have as much game to it as Minecraft does. If that appeals to you, then this may be the game for you.

Pretty much what I'm seeing. As someone who loves open worlds and exploring, I'm in!

This has no building/construction of any kind though, does it? That's like 99% of Minecraft's appeal. I don't see many videos of random Minecraft seeds, but thousands of "We built the Death Star in Minecraft!"

Actually there was a time when people were out exploring random seeds and posting videos and screenshots etc from it. If there is an appeal to NMS, I expect it will be mostly from that kind of crowd.

While the hype is redonkulous, this does have some appeal to me. Along with the storyline and researching alien languages, almost like a more fleshed out version of the mass effect 3 planet searching. Not something I would put a lot of time in, but I could see myself roaming around for an hour or two every once in a while.

Just like I did with Minecraft, as the tech tree and collecting resources was what was fun for me there. I never knew what to build was the problem.

Creston wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 11:17:

nin wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 10:46:
It's a one in a million shot, but you might find someones planet Dickbutt some day.

I'm going to say that that's probably a 1:1 chance.

Well, given that there are 18 quintillion planets, only a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of them will ever be named by a human. Your chances of happening upon one is incredibly slim.

Angrius Maximis wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 10:52:
Keep drinking that Kool Aid suckers

Keep being angry dude! We love it!

Hump wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 05:08:
this dialogue on the game should have happened months ago. It probably wouldve tempered peoples expectations a bit.

Pretty sure that's a feature, not a bug.

Tachikoma wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 13:29:
One would think such learned font of gaming knowledge as Ars should know better. I suppose, for example, that in The Witcher the reason every thug in Flotsam looks like a clone of another is "artistic vision"...or something. Never mind every other game that "recycles content", which indeed is just about every single game out there.

To be clear, do you think that "Every planet I go to has the same "settlement" and "mural" structures, right down to the north-south-east-west positioning of iron-built buildings in a mountain's pit." is a similarly bad problem as games like The Witcher 3 repeating a few different faces amongst many NPCs?

Sandbox game
A game wherein the player has been freed from the traditional structure and direction typically found in video games, and is instead given the ability to choose what, when, and how they want to approach the available choices in content. The term is in reference to a child's sandbox in which no rules are present and play is derived from open-ended choice. While some sandbox games may have building and creation aspects to their gameplay, those activities are not required. Sandbox games usually take place in an open-world setting as to facilitate the freedom of choice a player is given.

- Wikipedia.

But you`re right; NMS has nothing to do with Minecraft (or even some of the Terraria-likes) where you build stuff just for the sake of it and not for gameplay reasons (which is how most of the kids "play" Minecraft).

Tachikoma wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 13:29:

Mr. Tact wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 12:40:
Sandbox implies a building aspect.

Last I checked GTA was a flagship sandbox game. You ever built anything in there?

I'd disagree, I'd say GTA was simply open world, not sandbox. Also as I said before, it is a matter of semantics/definition. But I think unless there is more crafting/building in this game than I have seen in the videos I've watched -- it is not "like Minecraft" or what I would call a sandbox game.

Mr. Tact wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 12:40:
Sandbox implies a building aspect.

Last I checked GTA was a flagship sandbox game. You ever built anything in there?

Baristan wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 13:03:

Creston wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 11:40:
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Also... ick. From said article: And, in very bad news, NMS has already proven itself a major content recycler. Every planet I go to has the same "settlement" and "mural" structures, right down to the north-south-east-west positioning of iron-built buildings in a mountain's pit. The dynamic content generators have their limits, and it didn't take me long to find them.

I watched a few hours of streams and saw the same handful of buildings over and over and over again. They are everywhere. It's like searching for a Starbucks in Seattle. You'll find one on every corner and they all look the same.

One would think such learned font of gaming knowledge as Ars should know better. I suppose, for example, that in The Witcher the reason every thug in Flotsam looks like a clone of another is "artistic vision"...or something. Never mind every other game that "recycles content", which indeed is just about every single game out there.

Silly Hello Games...how dared they generate an universe in which every single leaf on every single tree isn`t different from another one? 3.5/10, wait for the bargain bin.

Baristan wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 12:46:

TheVocalMinority wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 00:16:
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I don't really want to jump on the hater bandwagon as I think this looks like a really interesting game, however the lack of PVP just screams "you have to play the game on our servers because you are all dirty pirates who will play for free if we let you have the full game". This is not really the sort of game I think should be on GOG.

Except you don't have to connect to the servers at all to play. Hello games said the GOG version will be DRM free and playable offline. All you will miss out on by not connecting to their servers is sharing discoveries with other people.

So your offline galaxy could actually NOT have every planet be named some variety of "Dick" "Butt" "Penis" "Balls" and "UrMomLolz"? That seems like a feature they should announce far more heavily.

Creston wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 11:40:
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Also... ick. From said article: And, in very bad news, NMS has already proven itself a major content recycler. Every planet I go to has the same "settlement" and "mural" structures, right down to the north-south-east-west positioning of iron-built buildings in a mountain's pit. The dynamic content generators have their limits, and it didn't take me long to find them.

I watched a few hours of streams and saw the same handful of buildings over and over and over again. They are everywhere. It's like searching for a Starbucks in Seattle. You'll find one on every corner and they all look the same.

TheVocalMinority wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 00:16:
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I don't really want to jump on the hater bandwagon as I think this looks like a really interesting game, however the lack of PVP just screams "you have to play the game on our servers because you are all dirty pirates who will play for free if we let you have the full game". This is not really the sort of game I think should be on GOG.

Except you don't have to connect to the servers at all to play. Hello games said the GOG version will be DRM free and playable offline. All you will miss out on by not connecting to their servers is sharing discoveries with other people.

Tachikoma wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 12:32:

Mr. Tact wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 10:56:
Where is the "sandbox" portion of this game?

You mean, being free to do what you want to do in a universe-sized environment isn`t sandboxy enough?

Lol. It doesn`t matter anyway, the devs can break it down for the hundreth time, yet some folks will still see what they want to see.

Repeating, yes, it is an open world. That is different from being sandbox. Sandbox implies a building aspect.

So glad this circus will be over soon.

Mr. Tact wrote on Aug 9, 2016, 10:56:
Where is the "sandbox" portion of this game?

You mean, being free to do what you want to do in a universe-sized environment isn`t sandboxy enough?

Lol. It doesn`t matter anyway, the devs can break it down for the hundreth time, yet some folks will still see what they want to see.