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9. Re: Evening Metaverse Jul 19, 2016, 09:25 eRe4s3r
jdreyer wrote on Jul 19, 2016, 04:33:
eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 19, 2016, 00:43:
Task wrote on Jul 18, 2016, 23:13:
20,000 arrested. Would have needed pre-planned arrest lists for such nonsense.

“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” - George Orwell

In German we even have a phrase for that. "Nacht der langen Messer"

To be honest, to me Turkey isn't a democracy and never was. And now the masks are falling and Erdogan shows his true face. That of someone who wants to become Sultan.

And why should you worry? Because this is *EXACTLY* how Nazi Germany came to be. Albeit in case of Turkey this now happens 20 times faster.

Remember, Hitler was also "elected" but it was anything but a democratic vote. In an atmosphere of fear and oppression, of violent mob rule and murders of political enemies, there can be no such thing as democracy.

Look, I have no love of Erdogan, but comparing him to Hitler is not useful. Although Turkey has one of the more formidable militaries in the world, they're not going to start steamrolling their neighbors or start programs of ethnic cleansing.

And while he is hated by vast swaths of the Turkish population, even the opposition turned out in support of Erdogan and against the coup.

As for arresting 20,000, that could be as simple as "Group A opposed us, so arrest them all. Same for groups B, D, and E." In a country of 75M, 20K is not very many.

I compared the currently employed methods to how Nazi Germany came to be, as in, the system that lead to mass oppression and hard repression against any opposition and which cemented the 1 men rule...

And no ethnic cleansing? Kurds would disagree, very strongly or do you think it's just an accident weapon shipments to IS took place who just randomly happened to be fighting Kurds at the time?
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