Out of the Blue

Yesterday I mentioned possibly changing the time when the Gunnar-man and I take our walks to avoid the heat. Still being on our regular schedule, we then proceeded to go on an adventure that illustrated how changing times would be a problem for Gunnar's social life. As much as I think our walks as a way to get some fresh air and exercise, he thinks we are going to visit his many friends in the neighborhood, and yesterday we had the full treatment, running into a bunch of his human and canine buddies along the way. This includes an adorable pair of toddler twins who eagerly spend some time playing with him when they're in the yard. Yesterday they were out with their nanny, and they were as overjoyed to see Gunnar as he was to see them, serving as a reminder of how important the social side of these walks can be. I guess I'll still take him for easy morning strolls and do something more vigorous after sundown to get some exercise in.

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Re: Military Coup in Turkey
Jul 16, 2016, 16:11
El Pit
 
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Re: Military Coup in Turkey Jul 16, 2016, 16:11
Jul 16, 2016, 16:11
 El Pit
 
jdreyer wrote on Jul 16, 2016, 05:30:
I don't like Erdogan either (on the same day he bombs ISIS, he bombs the PKK? The Kurds are the only ones fighting ISIS to a standstill!), but is a coup really the way to go? Not sure things were THAT bad yet.

Also I'm not sure how much you'd like these guys running Turkey anyway, given how poorly they executed the coup. Jeez, coup rule #1, capture the president. Coup #2, get the fast jets on your side, so your choppers don't get shot out of the sky.

As far as a false flag operation goes it seems pretty unlikely, but I suppose it's possible. Whispers of a coup in Turkey have been circulating for months. Could be real, could be planted. Also, this coup seems to have been pretty bloodless so far. Lots of jets flying low over the city afterburners streaking, tanks rolling through town (followed by a hatchback, like people draft off of ambulances here in the states), empty buildings exploding. But no pitched battles in the street, like you'd expect. And stories of police arresting soldiers (!!!). The entire thing is surreal. But so was the Bolshevik revolution if you were living through that.

He has now completely taken over Turkey. He let go 3,000 prosecutors that he did not like (which was illegal - but he just does not care about laws and the constitution anymore, he thinks he is godlike), let militia and "special" police forces attack civilian unarmed protesters (but asked for protests to support him just the very last night) - yes, he is so dangerous that a coup d'etat was appropriate, although this one stalled early and seemed strangely bad planned. Of course the revolutionary forces should have put him under arrest as one of the first steps, so that left many people scratching their heads and even doubting that this was a real coup at all.

Erdogan is pretty much doing it exactly the way Hitler did it. Promise the conservatives and religious whatever they want to hear go get their votes, then blame everything you can not deliver on evil internal forces (kurdish people in this political "reboot" of Hitler's way to power) or enemies from the outside (kurdish people in other countries, Russians). Then just get rid of everything that limits your power (free press, illoyal prosecutors, judges, police commissioners, and so on), then try to spread your influence beyond your country. It has been done before, and because of appeasement politics Hitler was not stopped before he could start the second world war). But people (including politicians) do not learn from history, so we are facing it all again. Erdogan will need another 10 to 15 years, then things will get ugly and politicians will tell us that there has been no way to stop him before and that nobody did see this coming.
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Re: Military Coup in Turkey
Jul 16, 2016, 05:30
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Re: Military Coup in Turkey Jul 16, 2016, 05:30
Jul 16, 2016, 05:30
 
El Pit wrote on Jul 16, 2016, 00:52:

The coup has stalled. Dark times ahead in Turkey. Erdogan has already taken over the media and press over the last decade and has dismissed judges and prosecutors that were critical of him and his AKP party, now he will be able to install his loyal followers as new heads of the military. THAT is the real coup d'etat that happened over the last ten years. Erdogan is the new Kadhafi/Saddam Hussein. He is supported by the US, though, because of the US airbases in Turkey and because he is anti-Russian (although his own politics is a copy of Putin's politics just with islamistic tendencies added). Like always, it will take the western world a decade or two more to find out who they are really supporting.

Erdogan is NOT a reliable partner in the war in Syria, you are right. He is trying to increase his influence in his neighbour country and is working on his dream of a new Ottoman empire. As I wrote before: dark times ahead in eastern europe. This will not end well but in the next big war in europe.

I don't like Erdogan either (on the same day he bombs ISIS, he bombs the PKK? The Kurds are the only ones fighting ISIS to a standstill!), but is a coup really the way to go? Not sure things were THAT bad yet.

Also I'm not sure how much you'd like these guys running Turkey anyway, given how poorly they executed the coup. Jeez, coup rule #1, capture the president. Coup #2, get the fast jets on your side, so your choppers don't get shot out of the sky.

As far as a false flag operation goes it seems pretty unlikely, but I suppose it's possible. Whispers of a coup in Turkey have been circulating for months. Could be real, could be planted. Also, this coup seems to have been pretty bloodless so far. Lots of jets flying low over the city afterburners streaking, tanks rolling through town (followed by a hatchback, like people draft off of ambulances here in the states), empty buildings exploding. But no pitched battles in the street, like you'd expect. And stories of police arresting soldiers (!!!). The entire thing is surreal. But so was the Bolshevik revolution if you were living through that.

This comment was edited on Jul 16, 2016, 05:36.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 16, 2016, 01:16
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 16, 2016, 01:16
Jul 16, 2016, 01:16
 
*ugh* Spent several minutes trying to compose an intelligent post on the situation in Turkey, and now I'm just going to give up. Seems like no win situation for a lot of people to me...
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Re: Military Coup in Turkey
Jul 16, 2016, 00:52
El Pit
 
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Re: Military Coup in Turkey Jul 16, 2016, 00:52
Jul 16, 2016, 00:52
 El Pit
 
Task wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 22:01:
El Pit wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 17:16:
The Turkish Situation

Any people of any Nation can be brainwashed to believe what the State tells them though.

I'm getting word on other sites, although these claims cannot be verified that people that have Turkish friends (that happen to not like Erdogan) are saying that he may have staged this in order to further consolidate power to make believe it was a so called attack on "Democracy." If true, Erdogan truly does like to imitate certain people of History. Meanwhile SkyNews Live had a Turkish lady on that absolutely believed it was an attack on "Democracy" even though Erdogan in the past has ordered raids on Media centers and arrested people for no other reason than making fun him.

Second point if you want to dig deep down the rabbit hole as I do into geo-politics is the leaked Erdogan tapes from around 2013/2014 in which he and his Inner Circle literally say in their own words that they could take advantage of the situation in Syria by making a False Flag Attack (similar to Hitler's Staged attack on a radio station as an excuse to invade Poland) by using the Turkish Military as pawns, attack their own territory, and claim an outside force did it instead in order to illegally invade Syria. If this thing is not an Erdogan plot, and the Turkish Military really are rebelling, this may be exactly what they are rebelling for, especially after many Generals were allegedly 'purged' to remain loyal to the primary party.

The coup has stalled. Dark times ahead in Turkey. Erdogan has already taken over the media and press over the last decade and has dismissed judges and prosecutors that were critical of him and his AKP party, now he will be able to install his loyal followers as new heads of the military. THAT is the real coup d'etat that happened over the last ten years. Erdogan is the new Kadhafi/Saddam Hussein. He is supported by the US, though, because of the US airbases in Turkey and because he is anti-Russian (although his own politics is a copy of Putin's politics just with islamistic tendencies added). Like always, it will take the western world a decade or two more to find out who they are really supporting.

Erdogan is NOT a reliable partner in the war in Syria, you are right. He is trying to increase his influence in his neighbour country and is working on his dream of a new Ottoman empire. As I wrote before: dark times ahead in eastern europe. This will not end well but in the next big war in europe.

This comment was edited on Jul 16, 2016, 00:58.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 23:36
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 15, 2016, 23:36
Jul 15, 2016, 23:36
 
Speaking of amazon, had sucky experience with prime day purchase. amazon tried to double charge for the same order, so it set off alert and credit card company flagged. Finally got it all sorted but now have to reorder all over again, bleh. So hopefully will get it ordered, when I'm sober? Damn, another reason to get fired as a news uploader, drinking on the job! Drunk2
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 23:11
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 15, 2016, 23:11
Jul 15, 2016, 23:11
 
Thanks Verno, sounds good. Still checking around and heard of private firewall brand, might read a bit more about it.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 22:33
nin
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 15, 2016, 22:33
Jul 15, 2016, 22:33
 nin
 
I always try and use the amazon, but I don't like how there's no confirmation it worked, short of bugging Blue (which I'm obviously not going to do).

With Patreon, I'd know it's working. Hell, we could do both...

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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 22:19
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 15, 2016, 22:19
Jul 15, 2016, 22:19
 
nin wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 18:43:
Creston wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 16:29:
RedEye9 wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 15:16:
Creston wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 15:02:
Blue, I just got a malicious website popup from malwarebytes as I loaded your page. p.algovid.com?

Just as a heads up.
What browser were you using?
I use ublock origin along with malwarebytes.
Of course right now I am on a customers comp that I maintain and it just has firefox with ublock, and norton av but w/out mbam.

Chrome with ublock Origin and malwarebytes, but ublock is turned off for Blue.

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I buy a LOT of shit on Amazon, and most of the time I remember to go through Blue's ad link.

Even so, it's scary warnings like that that make me hesitant about leaving Ublock off...
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Re: Military Coup in Turkey
Jul 15, 2016, 22:01
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Re: Military Coup in Turkey Jul 15, 2016, 22:01
Jul 15, 2016, 22:01
 
El Pit wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 17:16:
The Turkish Situation

Any people of any Nation can be brainwashed to believe what the State tells them though.

I'm getting word on other sites, although these claims cannot be verified that people that have Turkish friends (that happen to not like Erdogan) are saying that he may have staged this in order to further consolidate power to make believe it was a so called attack on "Democracy." If true, Erdogan truly does like to imitate certain people of History. Meanwhile SkyNews Live had a Turkish lady on that absolutely believed it was an attack on "Democracy" even though Erdogan in the past has ordered raids on Media centers and arrested people for no other reason than making fun him.

Second point if you want to dig deep down the rabbit hole as I do into geo-politics is the leaked Erdogan tapes from around 2013/2014 in which he and his Inner Circle literally say in their own words that they could take advantage of the situation in Syria by making a False Flag Attack (similar to Hitler's Staged attack on a radio station as an excuse to invade Poland) by using the Turkish Military as pawns, attack their own territory, and claim an outside force did it instead in order to illegally invade Syria. If this thing is not an Erdogan plot, and the Turkish Military really are rebelling, this may be exactly what they are rebelling for, especially after many Generals were allegedly 'purged' to remain loyal to the primary party.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 18:43
nin
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 15, 2016, 18:43
Jul 15, 2016, 18:43
 nin
 
Creston wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 16:29:
RedEye9 wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 15:16:
Creston wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 15:02:
Blue, I just got a malicious website popup from malwarebytes as I loaded your page. p.algovid.com?

Just as a heads up.
What browser were you using?
I use ublock origin along with malwarebytes.
Of course right now I am on a customers comp that I maintain and it just has firefox with ublock, and norton av but w/out mbam.

Chrome with ublock Origin and malwarebytes, but ublock is turned off for Blue.

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Re: Military Coup in Turkey
Jul 15, 2016, 17:16
El Pit
 
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Re: Military Coup in Turkey Jul 15, 2016, 17:16
Jul 15, 2016, 17:16
 El Pit
 
Wow, who would have guessed? The Turk military is attempting a coup to overturn the goverment of Erdogan who himself has tried before to weaken the Turk military because he knew it is a danger to his attempt to turn Turkey into an islamistic fascist country. Turk military has taken over power before whenever it felt that democracy was in danger, and Erdogan has proven to be one huge narcissistic egomaniac who wanted to become a bit of a Fuhrer figure for Turkey. I cross my fingers and hope that the Turks are successful and drive Erdogan out of office and even the country.

EDIT: Hilarious. Erdogan forbade protests and is now asking his supporters and militia to protest on the streets. It is both ironic and annoying to see a dictator ask for protest in his support after brutally beating down protests against him.

This comment was edited on Jul 15, 2016, 18:08.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 16:29
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 15, 2016, 16:29
Jul 15, 2016, 16:29
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 15:16:
Creston wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 15:02:
Blue, I just got a malicious website popup from malwarebytes as I loaded your page. p.algovid.com?

Just as a heads up.
What browser were you using?
I use ublock origin along with malwarebytes.
Of course right now I am on a customers comp that I maintain and it just has firefox with ublock, and norton av but w/out mbam.

Chrome with ublock Origin and malwarebytes, but ublock is turned off for Blue.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 16:22
Verno
 
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Jul 15, 2016, 16:22
 Verno
 
Acleacius wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 15:44:
Terrible news in France... Cry

Unrelated question, does anyone recommend a replacement for zonealarm firewall? checkpoint is far to untrustworthy but a stripped down version of just the firewall is a decent product. You just can't get the stripped down version now days. It's a choice of bloat if you buy or popups with free.

I find most of those Windows software firewalls to be pretty ineffective, I'd suggest you just run pfSense on something instead. Ignore the enterprise stuff on the webpage, you can just download it and run it on whatever hardware you have laying around and do some Youtube tutorials. It has a WebGUI and if you have novice knowledge of networking you'll be fine, google is good for the rest. I run it on an old box now that acts as both a router and a firewall appliance.

Alternatively just use the built in Windows firewall and secure it with some custom rules.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 15:44
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Jul 15, 2016, 15:44
 
Terrible news in France... Cry

Unrelated question, does anyone recommend a replacement for zonealarm firewall? checkpoint is far to untrustworthy but a stripped down version of just the firewall is a decent product. You just can't get the stripped down version now days. It's a choice of bloat if you buy or popups with free.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 15:16
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 15, 2016, 15:16
Jul 15, 2016, 15:16
 
Creston wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 15:02:
Blue, I just got a malicious website popup from malwarebytes as I loaded your page. p.algovid.com?

Just as a heads up.
What browser were you using?
I use ublock origin along with malwarebytes.
Of course right now I am on a customers comp that I maintain and it just has firefox with ublock, and norton av but w/out mbam.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 15:02
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Jul 15, 2016, 15:02
 
Blue, I just got a malicious website popup from malwarebytes as I loaded your page. p.algovid.com?

Just as a heads up.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 14:46
Beamer
 
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Jul 15, 2016, 14:46
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TangledThorns wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 12:50:
Cutter wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 11:47:
Jesus Christ just heard the news about the attack in France....

Terrorist Attack in Nice, France, Leaves 84 Dead and 202 Injured

It's been confirmed 10 children were killed in yesterday's Muslim terrorist attack in Nice, FR too. As a father with a toddler this hits too close to home. You're delusional if you trust our government's propaganda on ISIS and think this will just go away. This won't be solved by policing, conventional warfare nor with good feelings either. Ending the political correctness would be a good start in confronting this evil.

I don't get what the propaganda is, or how you think conventional warfare is politically correct.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 14:27
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 15, 2016, 14:27
Jul 15, 2016, 14:27
 
TangledThorns wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 12:50:
Cutter wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 11:47:
Jesus Christ just heard the news about the attack in France....

Terrorist Attack in Nice, France, Leaves 84 Dead and 202 Injured

It's been confirmed 10 children were killed in yesterday's Muslim terrorist attack in Nice, FR too. As a father with a toddler this hits too close to home. You're delusional if you trust our government's propaganda on ISIS and think this will just go away. This won't be solved by policing, conventional warfare nor with good feelings either. Ending the political correctness would be a good start in confronting this evil.

I dunno, this looks pretty confrontational to me.

It has been posited that the uptick in attacks on foreign soil is due to them losing the fight at home.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 12:50
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Jul 15, 2016, 12:50
 
Cutter wrote on Jul 15, 2016, 11:47:
Jesus Christ just heard the news about the attack in France....

Terrorist Attack in Nice, France, Leaves 84 Dead and 202 Injured

It's been confirmed 10 children were killed in yesterday's Muslim terrorist attack in Nice, FR too. As a father with a toddler this hits too close to home. You're delusional if you trust our government's propaganda on ISIS and think this will just go away. This won't be solved by policing, conventional warfare nor with good feelings either. Ending the political correctness would be a good start in confronting this evil.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 15, 2016, 11:47
Cutter
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 15, 2016, 11:47
Jul 15, 2016, 11:47
 Cutter
 
Jesus Christ just heard the news about the attack in France....

Terrorist Attack in Nice, France, Leaves 84 Dead and 202 Injured
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